UK rejects EU plan to tie defense pact to fishing quotas

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-rejects-eu-plan-tie-defense-security-pact-to-fishing-quotas/

by FeigenbaumC

28 comments
  1. This is ridiculous, it’s existential at this point and the UK is quibbling about defence. The fishermen are going extinct!

  2. Good. If the EU wants our assistance with defence, then the fish will have nothing to do with it. It’s in their interests more than ours.

  3. “Please help defend us”

    “Sure, we’ve been doing it for years. Why change now?”

    “Great, now to be allowed the privilege of dying to defend us, you just give us all your fish”

    “Are you high?”

  4. have we tried counter offering with some of our beloved english jams?

    we’re eshewing from a 150 billion dollar program in independant manufacture of arms which means more jobs etc in favour of a nebulous fishing deal that is just a continuation of current terms?

    and the wounded gazelle lurches forward confused and alone.

  5. Too right. If they are trying to play games they are not taking the current security situation seriously enough

  6. Oh, it’s a real article! That’s enough Reddit for me today.

  7. Sounds like politico is out there with two little doctors reflex hammers playing the average reactionary like a glockenspiel. Hinted my arse.

  8. Holy fuck, not this again. Fishing and farming were used during Brexit. Neither of these industries now exports to the EU. They land them directly in the EU because of red tape. Let’s not fuck up the last vestiges of the UKs diplomatic credit on an industry which is a tiny fraction of the UK economy.

  9. Pissing the UK off over fish is a bold move for Brussels considering that France’s historical nuclear policy was to deter Russia with a warning that predominantly involved nuking Germany.

  10. Not surprise. Sorry for the Ukrainians, but seriously we all know the threat is not that big, in the worst scenario Russia takes the Baltic states but that’s it. There’s no chance he could ever invade Britain, I don’t even think Poland could fall this time. No wonder Europe is so slow in action and America eventually got impatient. If it’s true they want to prepare war with China and maybe Iran, it’s understandable they would want to leave Europe to deal with Russia alone. Unfortunately Trump administration are filled with narcissistic idiots who think it’s great strategy to use threat against Europe while sweet talking to dictatorial regimes. It should be opposite.

    Help Ukraine but Britain really should stay out of Europe vs America. It’s only a matter of time before France or Germany elected someone like Trump, then all these European military buildup could easily become a real threat next door. A movement doesn’t stop with one man, and sometimes to be the first might be better than the last. We all remember the terror of French Revolution and even worse in Russian revolution, but it really started with England beheading its king first. Yes, a fascist dictator ruled Britain for a decade, but other countries quickly proved it could get so much worse. What I am saying is, don’t give up on America yet just because they are the first to make mistakes. Because who knows, next time it might be Europe or Britain itself that went mad.

  11. While EU laughs at the little tinny petty Islamic island

  12. France should just buy the goddamed fish and stop spitting the dummy.

    Edit: yoi know most of you guys can come to the uk and fish?

  13. This is the point of brexit. These EU are not interested in improve human being and united as one European country . Each of the eu states only interested for themselves. If the are really interested in united Europe. They should have done much more better. I hope someday there will be a united Europe to fight external threat like china and Russia and the lone wolf Donald trump

  14. How about we let you fish in our waters if you stop the dinghy’s leaving your shores or do something about the camps in Calais.

  15. What a silly deal. Shouldn’t be tacking extra nonsense onto what should be a simple defence deal…

  16. Lol Brussels cares so much for Ukraine that it hinges on fishing rights in UK waters… Nothing but parasites whether that is Brussels, London or Washington. Everyone’s a fucking rat.

    This was the entire point of Brexit! Is that the British people felt like they were giving a lot but not receiving the same in return.

  17. Who do you think you are kidding Von Der Laden…..

    The EU still don’t get it. We are out and if they want a partnership of any sort then it’s on like for like terms.

  18. The poor man, UK, waving their small dick at the EU.

  19. It’s a cod awful mess. Europe has haddock. I wonder if any plaice is safe.

  20. Good. Honestly can’t believe given current circunt the French tried this. Stupid time to try for that.

  21. Seems like France figures they already have UKs commitment to security via NATO so there is no reason to let UK in on this deal without concessions since they will compete with France for the defense contracts. Pretty transactional attitude considering all of the “We Stand Together” talk and criticisms of the US for being transactional.

  22. It’s not about a defensive pact, it’s about using the UE money from the UE citizens to increase its military industry. And UK want this money too.

  23. Im all for getting back in the EU, but this is so extremely petty of the EU, wtf…

  24. The EU really isn’t taking the defence of Europe seriously then, unsurprisingly.

  25. We need to be more like Iceland and stay out of everything and look after ourselves first

  26. Whether we agree with this or not, it bears repeating that we wanted to be in this defense pact. We wanted it so that we had access to 40bn or so of weapons purchases that we will now be cut out of unless we can find something else to negotiate the point on. So the EU added strings because we were potentially getting a huge amount of money from them.

    EDIT – which does once again mean that Brexit nonsense is costing us money that could be used to not cut vital services.

  27. Russia: Give us Ukraine!

    US: Give us Greenland!

    EU: “This seems serious. Can I have some of your cod?”

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