So if one wouldn’t fight for their country, what would they do instead?
Fighting for your country is only for the poor and the middle classes (meaning ordinary people). The rich will unleash the war and “support” you from their villas in Spain.
Finland ready to throw hands I see. Good
With these questions you always have to remember that the meaning is different. When asked this question in countries bordering Russia, the person being questioned will assume the most propable conflict to fight in is one defending your country against invasion.
However in secure countries of the west, the assumption and most likely fought war will be something like invasion of Afghanistan or some different quasi-colonial war, so the answers are less enthusiastic accordingly.
No, I wouldn’t. I’m not qualified to “fight for “my country””, nor do I want to. I value life of mine and my family and if there would ever be a war, I’m just going to escape somewhere safe.
I’m German. This week a Bundeswehr colonel (Pułkownik) with 30 years of service, head of an association representing 200 thousand soldiers (that’s why he can publicly talk) shared this: The German army needs one thousand fuel trucks to supply tanks and other vehicles in the battlefield. 70 (seventy) are available, 60 of those are scheduled to be sent to Lithuania. Also last week the inspector general of the army said:
>We are not much better off in terms of material today than we were in 2022.
This is from December 2022:
>The commander of the 10th Armoured Division is sounding the alarm: not a single one of the 18 ultra-modern Puma infantry fighting vehicles is operational. Particularly explosive: they were intended for the NATO Rapid Reaction Force.
The government agency for military procurement has 11800 employees. The Estonian armed forces have 6500 active duty members.
That might explain the number in part. German kids aren’t willing to be sacrificed on the altar of decades of mismanagement. By people whose kids would meanwhile be on on a plane to some place far away.
For a country where its impossible for a normal person to buy a flat? I don’t give a shit. Let the banks and developper companies field their mercenary regiments or something.
Nope, I’ll never fight for a country that treats me as a 2nd class citizen.
A high score in Finland is no surprise. Mandatory military service builds a sense of community and the country’s social safety net makes people see their country as an value and make them want to defend their way of life. Simple as that.
It clearly shows that if you feel safe, you become indifferent (or ignorant). This explains the missing funding for the defence in the EU countries for so many years.
Yes I can fight for my country.
Ukraine at 62%… seems doubtful given they have to force people to fight.
I would say Poland is the most patriot country i’ve ever witness in Europe
Good thing is that Russia has obły 32%
My grandfather went back from the US to fight for Polish independence, in Haller’s Army in 1919-20. I have his notebook.
After that, because of how quickly things change, he wasn’t recognized as a veteran in Poland OR the US.
He died in ’48; I assume he was disappointed how things turned out.
To me its the futility of war. I’m not willing to die on the whims of the Man in the High Tower.
Your map is outdated.
Ukraine 62% while having trouble getting enough soldiers in the army. Speaks itself…
I am not Polish, I have been living here for 9 years. I am a girl and I would definitely fight for Poland, no doubt. I have a Polish partner and I would fight for them and their (my) family.
You need motivation to say yes, a reason, in peace time no one would want to fight. The second bombs start falling, people you grew up around start dying, these % will vastly increase.
What is it mean ,, your country,, ?
Do I possess a country?
EU and there countries fuck there people over and over again so for what do the people fight for ?
For the right to pay taxes and never afford a house without put there asses deep in depth?
No sir
If the day come
I fight for MY LIFE
not a ,, MY ,, Country…..
Czas na imperialną politykę Polski , widzę że Włosi nam kraj za darmo oddadzą xD
Italians, in case of war, would simply change sides.
For my country: Yes.
For my government: F you!
Lol no, definitely not dying for some psycho politicians
The meaning of asking this close to Russia and/or rivaled country: Are you ready to defend your country against an invasion?
The meaning of asking this far away from Russia and/or rivaled country: Are you ready to invade a country in the desert, for your country?
They always say no, until rusia comes and rapes and murders each of your relatives on your eyes💁♂️ Do you think Ukraine wanted to fight? Many of them said “we are the same nation” even-though war started since 2014, but after rocket attacks and warcrimes in Bucha, they changed their minds
Things change once your country gets attacked.
However that is a very dangerous ratio for NATO in particular. What if one NATO country gets attacked? Will the rest come to help?
If war was actually fighting for your people not for the goverment yeah
I’m not fighting for billionaires in bunkers that just profit off my death. War is different now. If you think you’re gonna be like the boys from Kamienie na Szaniec you’re just wrong.
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So if one wouldn’t fight for their country, what would they do instead?
Fighting for your country is only for the poor and the middle classes (meaning ordinary people). The rich will unleash the war and “support” you from their villas in Spain.
Finland ready to throw hands I see. Good
With these questions you always have to remember that the meaning is different. When asked this question in countries bordering Russia, the person being questioned will assume the most propable conflict to fight in is one defending your country against invasion.
However in secure countries of the west, the assumption and most likely fought war will be something like invasion of Afghanistan or some different quasi-colonial war, so the answers are less enthusiastic accordingly.
No, I wouldn’t. I’m not qualified to “fight for “my country””, nor do I want to. I value life of mine and my family and if there would ever be a war, I’m just going to escape somewhere safe.
I’m German. This week a Bundeswehr colonel (Pułkownik) with 30 years of service, head of an association representing 200 thousand soldiers (that’s why he can publicly talk) shared this: The German army needs one thousand fuel trucks to supply tanks and other vehicles in the battlefield. 70 (seventy) are available, 60 of those are scheduled to be sent to Lithuania. Also last week the inspector general of the army said:
>We are not much better off in terms of material today than we were in 2022.
This is from December 2022:
>The commander of the 10th Armoured Division is sounding the alarm: not a single one of the 18 ultra-modern Puma infantry fighting vehicles is operational. Particularly explosive: they were intended for the NATO Rapid Reaction Force.
[Spiegel – Operational readiness becomes a lottery](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/schuetzenpanzer-puma-einsatzbereitschaft-wird-zum-lotteriespiel-general-schreibt-brandmail-a-255d0428-ba15-4664-aa79-4868ba86ca2c)
The government agency for military procurement has 11800 employees. The Estonian armed forces have 6500 active duty members.
That might explain the number in part. German kids aren’t willing to be sacrificed on the altar of decades of mismanagement. By people whose kids would meanwhile be on on a plane to some place far away.
For a country where its impossible for a normal person to buy a flat? I don’t give a shit. Let the banks and developper companies field their mercenary regiments or something.
Nope, I’ll never fight for a country that treats me as a 2nd class citizen.
A high score in Finland is no surprise. Mandatory military service builds a sense of community and the country’s social safety net makes people see their country as an value and make them want to defend their way of life. Simple as that.
It clearly shows that if you feel safe, you become indifferent (or ignorant). This explains the missing funding for the defence in the EU countries for so many years.
Yes I can fight for my country.
Ukraine at 62%… seems doubtful given they have to force people to fight.
I would say Poland is the most patriot country i’ve ever witness in Europe
Good thing is that Russia has obły 32%
My grandfather went back from the US to fight for Polish independence, in Haller’s Army in 1919-20. I have his notebook.
After that, because of how quickly things change, he wasn’t recognized as a veteran in Poland OR the US.
He died in ’48; I assume he was disappointed how things turned out.
To me its the futility of war. I’m not willing to die on the whims of the Man in the High Tower.
Your map is outdated.
Ukraine 62% while having trouble getting enough soldiers in the army. Speaks itself…
I am not Polish, I have been living here for 9 years. I am a girl and I would definitely fight for Poland, no doubt. I have a Polish partner and I would fight for them and their (my) family.
You need motivation to say yes, a reason, in peace time no one would want to fight. The second bombs start falling, people you grew up around start dying, these % will vastly increase.
What is it mean ,, your country,, ?
Do I possess a country?
EU and there countries fuck there people over and over again so for what do the people fight for ?
For the right to pay taxes and never afford a house without put there asses deep in depth?
No sir
If the day come
I fight for MY LIFE
not a ,, MY ,, Country…..
Czas na imperialną politykę Polski , widzę że Włosi nam kraj za darmo oddadzą xD
Italians, in case of war, would simply change sides.
For my country: Yes.
For my government: F you!
Lol no, definitely not dying for some psycho politicians
The meaning of asking this close to Russia and/or rivaled country: Are you ready to defend your country against an invasion?
The meaning of asking this far away from Russia and/or rivaled country: Are you ready to invade a country in the desert, for your country?
They always say no, until rusia comes and rapes and murders each of your relatives on your eyes💁♂️ Do you think Ukraine wanted to fight? Many of them said “we are the same nation” even-though war started since 2014, but after rocket attacks and warcrimes in Bucha, they changed their minds
Things change once your country gets attacked.
However that is a very dangerous ratio for NATO in particular. What if one NATO country gets attacked? Will the rest come to help?
If war was actually fighting for your people not for the goverment yeah
I’m not fighting for billionaires in bunkers that just profit off my death. War is different now. If you think you’re gonna be like the boys from Kamienie na Szaniec you’re just wrong.
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