> For instance, countries could roll over and accept Trump’s tariffs without retaliation. “Critically, retaliation will exacerbate rather than improve the distribution of burdens and make it even more difficult for us to finance global public goods,” Miran said in his remarks.
> Miran said that countries could “stop unfair and harmful trading practices” by buying more American products, specifically noting that countries could boost defense spending and procurement from the U.S. by “taking strain off our servicemembers and creating jobs”
And the best one
> Finally, Miran said that countries could “simply write checks” to the Treasury Department.
These people really live in a bubble or in a parallel dimension.
Meloni supports Trump.
Just saying.
So does Wilders, I know. Our guy isn’t that much better.
Call it what it is: EXTORTION
He blamed china for 2008. Wooo fucking hell. They’re actual degenerates.
“Finally, Miran said that countries could “simply write checks” to the Treasury Department.”
Some straight mafia-shit.
Get f**ked America.
If we stop all trade with the US, there’s no deficit and no one pays a tarriff. The rest of the world can sign free trade agreements and the US will collapse and disappear. Win-win
Damn, even Scorsese and Tarantino combined could not come up with such a hilarious script. It feels so surreal how entitled they act, and is so absurd it becomes funny again, haha
>Miran said that these factors had led to a “decline of our manufacturing workforce by over a third since its peak and a reduction in our share of world manufacturing production of 40 percent.
… When in the 80s the USA started outsourcing production, it was exploitation, but of other nations. Moving dirty processes and using exploited workforce to boost quarterly earnings. It was a cost cutting measure that benefited the USA with bigger profits and cheaper products.
And now the USA frames it as if it was something done TO them?
The Trump “advisor” is saying what Trump tells him to say. – Who in turn is only saying what Putin tells him what to say.
“countries could “stop unfair and harmful trading practices” by buying more American products, specifically noting that countries could boost defense spending and procurement from the U.S.”
Buy stuff from us !
Lol, fuck off guys, if you can’t offer good value, no we won’t.
Let’s be honest here…. It was America through reverse bargaining and unfair tendering that send manufacturing to China. It’s literally American free market capitalism that drives price below sustainable levels…. America drove global business to China and now are making everyone else suffer for it.
Why would anyone comply with this shit? It’s just straight up extortion with no guarantees that the extortion does not continue as soon as it’s convenient. If they sense weakness, i.e. you pay them, next they are meddling in your politics, rewriting laws, closing unions, demolishing consumer protections, demanding all sorts of crazy shit for the privilege of trading with them.
Fuck negotiating. Give them the clearest fuck you that is humanly possible ffs. You don’t negotiate with terrorists, so why talk to these guys? They are not reasonable or rational.
Completely ignoring the services sector, again and again and again. Trump administration is a mob of lunatics.
Would be nice if the Democrats in the US could start already to position a candidate for running in the next election so that the EU and the rest of the world can start negotiating with the next administration.
The other option for countries to avoid hefty U.S. tariffs might be to avoid doing business with the U.S. altogether and find saner trading partners. I’m sure most can’t completely disconnect themselves from the U.S. but I certainly wouldn’t blame them for avoiding trade with us at all costs.
Tariffs are cheaper I think
Modern day Caligula
Europe should simply impose 20% tariffs on US services to wake up Trumper dinosaurs and remind them about the service deficit. Doing work in 21st century is rarely done with shovels and hammers.
I thought the terms for Ukraine was bad, taking their mines and energy companies. Now they want the rest of the worlds companies as well. We already have much higher unemployment than the USA and they want our companies to move there. If we have no jobbs who will afford to buy from them, getting new iPhones, Tesla etc.
“Top White House economist Stephen Miran apparently wants free handouts from other nations.”
Found the welfare queen.
Do they not realise that the main reason for the decline of their manufacturing was that they opted for cheaper labour in other countries?
Why pay an American a decent wage when you could pay an Asian worker a pittance in comparison?
Everything in their current situation is of their own doing
It’s time to pay our heavenly tribute to our celestial american gods.
I seriously don’t understand why this isn’t how it goes down
* every sane county band together to negotiate with each other.
* they come up with a catchy name, like ”coalition of the billing” but better.
* they ALL agree to a level headed response to the us. A set level of tariffs, or a percentage of whatever tariff the us has hit them with.
* they start negotiating for free trade agreements with each other.
* they communicate their progress in a positive way, so that it’s obvious that the us is missing out.
The us is the biggest market, sure. But every other country out together outweighs the us by a big share.
USA runs on a blackmail economy, they just use their military to bully other countries, it gives their international lawyers aka politicians a little more leverage
Yeah. That’s tribute. Go fuck yourself.
Delusional.
It’s the end run of Disaster Capitalism meets the Kleptocracy
So, basically, they’re willing to pay trading countries for goods up to the point of a trade equilibrium. Whatever is more than that… they want it for free… great… me too, please…
So they want money for global security at the same moment when they have essentially stopped global security and are saying Europe is on its own?And they want money for the dollar being the world currency while this mainly benefits them lol
This will never end. Give them anything and they will demand more.
This is not just some weirdo, for those who think that. He is the head of those people who create all the decrees for Trump. Those are the really dangerous people of the US administration. They create the policies and take no responsibility for any of it, because Trump is used as the visible figurehead.
The speech is really worth watching in full, as he really puts out, what they think on a baseline about certain things. He actually claims right in the start, that China is responsible for the crashing house market in 2008. A careful listener will spot many similar things in the speech and it is extremely dangerous, because it sounds sophisticated and logical for those, who dont know better.
Why this is dangerous? German history has taught us one thing: While everyone looked at the figure heads and history also picked mostly on them, the really dangerous ones had been those, who claimed they acted on behalf of the leadership. Since access to leadership was heavily restricted, many have acted under the guise of official orders, since no one could proof the opposite. With Trump being towards the end of the lifecycle and a good chance of not being around for that long, these people will still be around.
And these are just the public demands. It wouldn’t surprise me if it takes renting 500 rooms at Trump’s DC hotel (see link below) or a substantial purchase of $Trump coin to actually get to the negotiating table.
They are just winging it and doing madlibs based on Trump’s ramblings.
Isn’t this just racketeering?
What kind of government does that? This is just unbelievable. Well, it isn’t when you think which government we are talking about but still it is unbelievable.
And here I thought Russia was the Mafia State.
Well, I guess Americans really do always things bigger now dont they?
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> For instance, countries could roll over and accept Trump’s tariffs without retaliation. “Critically, retaliation will exacerbate rather than improve the distribution of burdens and make it even more difficult for us to finance global public goods,” Miran said in his remarks.
> Miran said that countries could “stop unfair and harmful trading practices” by buying more American products, specifically noting that countries could boost defense spending and procurement from the U.S. by “taking strain off our servicemembers and creating jobs”
And the best one
> Finally, Miran said that countries could “simply write checks” to the Treasury Department.
These people really live in a bubble or in a parallel dimension.
Meloni supports Trump.
Just saying.
So does Wilders, I know. Our guy isn’t that much better.
Call it what it is: EXTORTION
He blamed china for 2008. Wooo fucking hell. They’re actual degenerates.
“Finally, Miran said that countries could “simply write checks” to the Treasury Department.”
Some straight mafia-shit.
Get f**ked America.
If we stop all trade with the US, there’s no deficit and no one pays a tarriff. The rest of the world can sign free trade agreements and the US will collapse and disappear. Win-win
Damn, even Scorsese and Tarantino combined could not come up with such a hilarious script. It feels so surreal how entitled they act, and is so absurd it becomes funny again, haha
>Miran said that these factors had led to a “decline of our manufacturing workforce by over a third since its peak and a reduction in our share of world manufacturing production of 40 percent.
… When in the 80s the USA started outsourcing production, it was exploitation, but of other nations. Moving dirty processes and using exploited workforce to boost quarterly earnings. It was a cost cutting measure that benefited the USA with bigger profits and cheaper products.
And now the USA frames it as if it was something done TO them?
The Trump “advisor” is saying what Trump tells him to say. – Who in turn is only saying what Putin tells him what to say.
“countries could “stop unfair and harmful trading practices” by buying more American products, specifically noting that countries could boost defense spending and procurement from the U.S.”
Buy stuff from us !
Lol, fuck off guys, if you can’t offer good value, no we won’t.
Let’s be honest here…. It was America through reverse bargaining and unfair tendering that send manufacturing to China. It’s literally American free market capitalism that drives price below sustainable levels…. America drove global business to China and now are making everyone else suffer for it.
Why would anyone comply with this shit? It’s just straight up extortion with no guarantees that the extortion does not continue as soon as it’s convenient. If they sense weakness, i.e. you pay them, next they are meddling in your politics, rewriting laws, closing unions, demolishing consumer protections, demanding all sorts of crazy shit for the privilege of trading with them.
Fuck negotiating. Give them the clearest fuck you that is humanly possible ffs. You don’t negotiate with terrorists, so why talk to these guys? They are not reasonable or rational.
Completely ignoring the services sector, again and again and again. Trump administration is a mob of lunatics.
Would be nice if the Democrats in the US could start already to position a candidate for running in the next election so that the EU and the rest of the world can start negotiating with the next administration.
The other option for countries to avoid hefty U.S. tariffs might be to avoid doing business with the U.S. altogether and find saner trading partners. I’m sure most can’t completely disconnect themselves from the U.S. but I certainly wouldn’t blame them for avoiding trade with us at all costs.
Tariffs are cheaper I think
Modern day Caligula
Europe should simply impose 20% tariffs on US services to wake up Trumper dinosaurs and remind them about the service deficit. Doing work in 21st century is rarely done with shovels and hammers.
I thought the terms for Ukraine was bad, taking their mines and energy companies. Now they want the rest of the worlds companies as well. We already have much higher unemployment than the USA and they want our companies to move there. If we have no jobbs who will afford to buy from them, getting new iPhones, Tesla etc.
“Top White House economist Stephen Miran apparently wants free handouts from other nations.”
Found the welfare queen.
Do they not realise that the main reason for the decline of their manufacturing was that they opted for cheaper labour in other countries?
Why pay an American a decent wage when you could pay an Asian worker a pittance in comparison?
Everything in their current situation is of their own doing
It’s time to pay our heavenly tribute to our celestial american gods.
I seriously don’t understand why this isn’t how it goes down
* every sane county band together to negotiate with each other.
* they come up with a catchy name, like ”coalition of the billing” but better.
* they ALL agree to a level headed response to the us. A set level of tariffs, or a percentage of whatever tariff the us has hit them with.
* they start negotiating for free trade agreements with each other.
* they communicate their progress in a positive way, so that it’s obvious that the us is missing out.
The us is the biggest market, sure. But every other country out together outweighs the us by a big share.
USA runs on a blackmail economy, they just use their military to bully other countries, it gives their international lawyers aka politicians a little more leverage
Yeah. That’s tribute. Go fuck yourself.
Delusional.
It’s the end run of Disaster Capitalism meets the Kleptocracy
So, basically, they’re willing to pay trading countries for goods up to the point of a trade equilibrium. Whatever is more than that… they want it for free… great… me too, please…
So they want money for global security at the same moment when they have essentially stopped global security and are saying Europe is on its own?And they want money for the dollar being the world currency while this mainly benefits them lol
This will never end. Give them anything and they will demand more.
Appeasement won’t work.
This requires the [entire speech, which can be found here.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMB_OYqV-HE)
This is not just some weirdo, for those who think that. He is the head of those people who create all the decrees for Trump. Those are the really dangerous people of the US administration. They create the policies and take no responsibility for any of it, because Trump is used as the visible figurehead.
The speech is really worth watching in full, as he really puts out, what they think on a baseline about certain things. He actually claims right in the start, that China is responsible for the crashing house market in 2008. A careful listener will spot many similar things in the speech and it is extremely dangerous, because it sounds sophisticated and logical for those, who dont know better.
Why this is dangerous? German history has taught us one thing: While everyone looked at the figure heads and history also picked mostly on them, the really dangerous ones had been those, who claimed they acted on behalf of the leadership. Since access to leadership was heavily restricted, many have acted under the guise of official orders, since no one could proof the opposite. With Trump being towards the end of the lifecycle and a good chance of not being around for that long, these people will still be around.
And these are just the public demands. It wouldn’t surprise me if it takes renting 500 rooms at Trump’s DC hotel (see link below) or a substantial purchase of $Trump coin to actually get to the negotiating table.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/saudi-lobbyists-reportedly-booked-500-rooms-at-trumps-dc-hotel.html
They have no plan.
They had no plan.
No one is leading.
They are just winging it and doing madlibs based on Trump’s ramblings.
Isn’t this just racketeering?
What kind of government does that? This is just unbelievable. Well, it isn’t when you think which government we are talking about but still it is unbelievable.
And here I thought Russia was the Mafia State.
Well, I guess Americans really do always things bigger now dont they?
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