> It suggests the justification that: “Given the unprecedented circumstances of major pressures on cost of living and the crisis in Ukraine, there is an urgent need to *rationalise our legislative programme”*
Jesus.
What a bunch of absolute cunts. Who is this even for?
Oh you’ve got to be kidding me.
Of all the terrible ideas to important from America, who the hell wants this one?
At least the others clearly have some benefit to the Tory’s, this is just cruelty for the sake of cruelty.
“*While Liz is not ideologically committed to the legislation*” – our ex-equalities minister being ideologically opposed to a ban on conversion therapy there…
I genuinely do not understand the point. Like, this bill is a no-brainer and had wide cross-party support. Pulling it at the last minute is an absolute brain-dead move at best.
I’m honestly surprised at this. I know we shouldn’t expect much from this government, but walking back on banning conversion therapy is so sad.
Tories: YoU’vE gOt EqUaL mArRiAgE wHaT mOrE dO yOu WaNt
This government is something else.
You could give them the easiest tap in for winning some support. You’ve done all the work, rounded the goalie and you square it to Boris and he stops and looks around a bit in to the crowd before ballooning it over the bar.
Just shameless, evil even.
Imagine this will be part of an upcoming “anti-woke” campaign, transgender rights and issues are unfortunately the last bastion for these vultures.
Near comical levels of evil from the Tories nowadays
Tories just straight up giving the LGBT vote to Labour and/or other parties
The Tories are straight up saying that it’s totally fine to torture LGBTQ+ people. Fuck them.
Never trust a Tory. They’re all bigots, the fucking lot of them.
“There have been vocal critics of a ban in Parliament, including some Conservative MPs who worry about how it will impact on religious freedoms, with the vast majority of conversion therapy taking place in religious settings.”
Fuck off with that. Just fuck off. If your religion allows you to torture people because of their sexuality, your religion is an evil pile of shit.
Just like Thatcher in the 80’s, they haven’t changed one bit. Fucking wankers the lot of them.
The government is supposed to be hosting an LGBTQ+ conference soon. I think this is the nail in the coffin for that idea.
Oh great we’re going even further backwards what the fuck is the gov trying to send us to
Tories going to Tory. Bunch of socially backwards arseholes. The PM lies through his teeth, parties when people are dying and yet people still vote for them. You would have thought killing nearly 200k people with covid would end them but no, still going. Not banning conversion therapy is just not something they think will make the sheep they vote for them to change their minds
Of course.
They got a PR hit form announcing it. But actually doing it would be effort.
The same for 90% of their agenda. From Brexit to banning fracking, from helping Ukrainian refugees to cutting emissions, we plan big and do nothing.
There is no such thing as a good conservative. There is no nuance. No shades of grey. No nothing. They are pure evil, as is anyone that votes for them.
Do not tolerate conservative voters in your life if you have any choice in the matter.
Bigging up the MP yesterday… and doing this today.
I hate these evil bastards so much.
Section 28 all over again.
We have to fight them as hard as possible.
Edit: if I could just request that anyone who down votes this, also leaves a comment, that would be helpful.
Cheers lads.
What the fuck is wrong with these assholes. No sane person in this day and age can possibly justify this.
My hope is that scotland will ban it, but despite being a left leaning government they still haven’t banned it, no idea why. This is bad news overall, it really affects young lgbt people who grow up attending churches within the evangelical alliance.
Excuse my ignorance, obviously, I know that conversion therapy is bad and needs to be banned.
Can someone help explain where trans individuals come into this? I’ve seen some comments mentioning it, but i can’t make sense of it.
Again, not opposed or trying to offend, just trying to understand
Cunts are being cunts. There is no logical rationale for this.
Don’t use the war in Ukraine as an excuse to be super cunts to the LGBT community.
Why the fuck would you not ban this conversion therapy bullshit? What possible reason could you have to keep it going? This shit was promised in 2018. 4 years of nothing and they withdraw it?
I seriously hate this government. Disgusting, spineless, lying sacks of elephant shit. Fuck them entirely.
Oh so it’s still legal to torture me until I get forced to present as my birth gender?
Thanks UK, really appreciate that.
On international trans visibility day and the day after the first mp comes out as trans as well lol…
1) lie to voters that you are going to do something that helps people – gay people that are vulnerable and at a very difficult time surrounded by ill informed people
2) use the Ukraine war as an excuse to hide inaction on policy. What other polices are being hidden behind the war?
3) ask straight people what is good for gay people. Imagine if forced conversation therapy was introduced for straight people. Would people react in the same way?
4) lie to the general public about the whole thing.
This government is a bunch of ****. Which of them actually think gay conversion therapy is a good idea. It’s like the 1820’s not the 2020’s
They will put Turing on the money but they won’t spend a pound to prevent it from happening again.
‘“The LGBT sector will read this decision as a signal the government is uninterested in LGBT issues” and sets out how the fallout could be minimised. ‘
Or more accurately, the general public will recognise that disinterest in the issue would mean making no changes at all, whereas a u turn implies the government actively moving in favour of “curing” LGBT communities.
The cynic in me is beginning to wonder if the last few months is a cynical ploy to make the tories unelectable so another party can be set up to take the blame for something worse that they’ve fucked up that we don’t know about yet.
2022 and our government still allows conversion therapy. Disgraceful.
If anything the [partial counter-U-turn](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60947028) is more worrying not less. Excluding trans issues from the policy suggests that the government is losing faith in the policy and being forced to compromise by anti-trans politicians / those who oppose LGBTQ rights.
When it was still an intact policy, albeit delayed, it was at least possible to argue that delaying the policy was disappointing but not a disaster. Plenty of important legislative measures were delayed by the coronavirus response for example. Emergencies happen and they cause delays to worthy bits of legislation sometimes. It happens.
However, now that they’ve started watering down the substance of the policy it’s evident that this is not solely about scheduling or delays. It’s about government changing its view on the issue and trying to find a way to quietly offer less.
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> It suggests the justification that: “Given the unprecedented circumstances of major pressures on cost of living and the crisis in Ukraine, there is an urgent need to *rationalise our legislative programme”*
Jesus.
What a bunch of absolute cunts. Who is this even for?
Oh you’ve got to be kidding me.
Of all the terrible ideas to important from America, who the hell wants this one?
At least the others clearly have some benefit to the Tory’s, this is just cruelty for the sake of cruelty.
“*While Liz is not ideologically committed to the legislation*” – our ex-equalities minister being ideologically opposed to a ban on conversion therapy there…
I genuinely do not understand the point. Like, this bill is a no-brainer and had wide cross-party support. Pulling it at the last minute is an absolute brain-dead move at best.
Edit: LOL THEY’VE U TURNED AGAIN
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1509632191067828229?t=M_D48Kk352PvNcwXPXBkew&s=19
God this government takes the piss.
I’m honestly surprised at this. I know we shouldn’t expect much from this government, but walking back on banning conversion therapy is so sad.
Tories: YoU’vE gOt EqUaL mArRiAgE wHaT mOrE dO yOu WaNt
This government is something else.
You could give them the easiest tap in for winning some support. You’ve done all the work, rounded the goalie and you square it to Boris and he stops and looks around a bit in to the crowd before ballooning it over the bar.
Just shameless, evil even.
Imagine this will be part of an upcoming “anti-woke” campaign, transgender rights and issues are unfortunately the last bastion for these vultures.
Near comical levels of evil from the Tories nowadays
Tories just straight up giving the LGBT vote to Labour and/or other parties
The Tories are straight up saying that it’s totally fine to torture LGBTQ+ people. Fuck them.
Never trust a Tory. They’re all bigots, the fucking lot of them.
“There have been vocal critics of a ban in Parliament, including some Conservative MPs who worry about how it will impact on religious freedoms, with the vast majority of conversion therapy taking place in religious settings.”
Fuck off with that. Just fuck off. If your religion allows you to torture people because of their sexuality, your religion is an evil pile of shit.
Just like Thatcher in the 80’s, they haven’t changed one bit. Fucking wankers the lot of them.
The government is supposed to be hosting an LGBTQ+ conference soon. I think this is the nail in the coffin for that idea.
You mean to tell me that a government headed up by Boris [“tank-topped bum boys”](https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/09/27/boris-johnson-tank-top-bum-boys-homophobic-peter-mandleson-history/) Johnson might not have LGBT+ peoples’ best interests at heart?
Madness
Oh great we’re going even further backwards what the fuck is the gov trying to send us to
Tories going to Tory. Bunch of socially backwards arseholes. The PM lies through his teeth, parties when people are dying and yet people still vote for them. You would have thought killing nearly 200k people with covid would end them but no, still going. Not banning conversion therapy is just not something they think will make the sheep they vote for them to change their minds
Of course.
They got a PR hit form announcing it. But actually doing it would be effort.
The same for 90% of their agenda. From Brexit to banning fracking, from helping Ukrainian refugees to cutting emissions, we plan big and do nothing.
There is no such thing as a good conservative. There is no nuance. No shades of grey. No nothing. They are pure evil, as is anyone that votes for them.
Do not tolerate conservative voters in your life if you have any choice in the matter.
Bigging up the MP yesterday… and doing this today.
I hate these evil bastards so much.
Section 28 all over again.
We have to fight them as hard as possible.
Edit: if I could just request that anyone who down votes this, also leaves a comment, that would be helpful.
Cheers lads.
What the fuck is wrong with these assholes. No sane person in this day and age can possibly justify this.
My hope is that scotland will ban it, but despite being a left leaning government they still haven’t banned it, no idea why. This is bad news overall, it really affects young lgbt people who grow up attending churches within the evangelical alliance.
Excuse my ignorance, obviously, I know that conversion therapy is bad and needs to be banned.
Can someone help explain where trans individuals come into this? I’ve seen some comments mentioning it, but i can’t make sense of it.
Again, not opposed or trying to offend, just trying to understand
Cunts are being cunts. There is no logical rationale for this.
[@PaulBrandITV](https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1509632191067828229)
> 🚨 U-TURN ON THE U-TURN 🚨
> The Prime Minister has changed his mind off the back of the reaction to our report and he WILL now ban conversion therapy after all.
> Senior Govt source absolutely assures me it’ll be in Queen’s Speech.
> But only gay conversion therapy, not trans.
They apparently U-turned because, shocker, allowing conversion therapy to continue is not a popular idea.
What the actual fuck. When the Tories go from keeping food from kids to just out right villains.
Literally the only reason I can even think for this decision is religion based!
They’ve u turned again on the U turn. What sort of a turn is that? Edit: I’ve got it I think, it’s a Hokey Cokey
Conversion therapy: Ban to go-ahead but not cover trans people https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60947028
Don’t use the war in Ukraine as an excuse to be super cunts to the LGBT community.
Why the fuck would you not ban this conversion therapy bullshit? What possible reason could you have to keep it going? This shit was promised in 2018. 4 years of nothing and they withdraw it?
I seriously hate this government. Disgusting, spineless, lying sacks of elephant shit. Fuck them entirely.
Oh so it’s still legal to torture me until I get forced to present as my birth gender?
Thanks UK, really appreciate that.
On international trans visibility day and the day after the first mp comes out as trans as well lol…
1) lie to voters that you are going to do something that helps people – gay people that are vulnerable and at a very difficult time surrounded by ill informed people
2) use the Ukraine war as an excuse to hide inaction on policy. What other polices are being hidden behind the war?
3) ask straight people what is good for gay people. Imagine if forced conversation therapy was introduced for straight people. Would people react in the same way?
4) lie to the general public about the whole thing.
This government is a bunch of ****. Which of them actually think gay conversion therapy is a good idea. It’s like the 1820’s not the 2020’s
They will put Turing on the money but they won’t spend a pound to prevent it from happening again.
‘“The LGBT sector will read this decision as a signal the government is uninterested in LGBT issues” and sets out how the fallout could be minimised. ‘
Or more accurately, the general public will recognise that disinterest in the issue would mean making no changes at all, whereas a u turn implies the government actively moving in favour of “curing” LGBT communities.
The cynic in me is beginning to wonder if the last few months is a cynical ploy to make the tories unelectable so another party can be set up to take the blame for something worse that they’ve fucked up that we don’t know about yet.
2022 and our government still allows conversion therapy. Disgraceful.
If anything the [partial counter-U-turn](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60947028) is more worrying not less. Excluding trans issues from the policy suggests that the government is losing faith in the policy and being forced to compromise by anti-trans politicians / those who oppose LGBTQ rights.
When it was still an intact policy, albeit delayed, it was at least possible to argue that delaying the policy was disappointing but not a disaster. Plenty of important legislative measures were delayed by the coronavirus response for example. Emergencies happen and they cause delays to worthy bits of legislation sometimes. It happens.
However, now that they’ve started watering down the substance of the policy it’s evident that this is not solely about scheduling or delays. It’s about government changing its view on the issue and trying to find a way to quietly offer less.