Lucy Letby bombshell as new memo from sole medical witness threatens to blow prosecution’s case wide open
https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/lucy-letby-bombshell-new-memo-sole-medical-witness-nurse-conviction/
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Lucy Letby bombshell as new memo from sole medical witness threatens to blow prosecution’s case wide open
https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/lucy-letby-bombshell-new-memo-sole-medical-witness-nurse-conviction/
Posted by Forget_me_never
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The NHS lied and covered up the contaminated blood scandal.
Nothing would surprise me.
Sadly, despite the growing evidence of her innocence, I think the likelihood is she’ll be left to rot in prison for decades, because even when the establishment shows its arse, it can’t been seen to admit to showing its arse
“ommgg ifff I keeeeppp pushiiing heeeerrrr totttallly innocennnceee … Maybeeee she wee likeeeer meeeee”
I’m sick of seeing this woman’s face- let her rot
i bet it’s bollocks
I don’t know what I think about the case as a whole. But is it not, even just from a procedural POV, concerning that a doctor’s version of events seemingly went from
“baby crashed, Letby called for my help, and the baby died, probably due to being so premature”
to
“I just happened to walk in and Letby was standing over the baby but she hadn’t done anything to help or get medical attention”?
Because it seems like the doctor either misled the court, or wrote a misleading internal memo about the circumstances of the death.
Threatens to?
The case is in shattered pieces on the floor. 14 expert neonatologists found there were never any murders or attempts at deliberate harm. Just substandard medical care from the very same doctors who just by coincidence decided to frame an innocent nurse to cover up their own incompetence.
And now Jayaram is proven to have perjured himself.
Free Lucy, this farce isn’t funny.
The trust is covering their arses and have used her as a scapegoat
That’s pretty wild if it’s legitimate.
Internet people love a conspiracy, shes not right in the head she had a fucking diary about these babies, kept personal belongings and wrote letters to the parents
Aspects of the trial may not have been perfect but there’s so much evidence pointing to her guilt
This panel of experts are essentially saying it’s a coincidence for such a high number of babies to die who were all primarily cared for by Letby, but there are also medical experts who oppose what they’re saying. That panel have used data and papers from the 1980s and that panel was put together by Letby’s barrister of all people
No different to how there are some scientists who still want people to believe COVID and the vaccines weren’t real or effective
She literally wrote a note confessing to killing the babies. What more do ‘Letby Truthers’ need to see?
From the get go I had my doubts about her guilt. There is a lot more to this case than meets the eye. And hospitals, particularly baby units, have a history of scapegoating.
The hysteria around this case meant she’d be found guilty from the get go.
It was always clear that massive holes in the stories and evidence meant she probably wasn’t guilty.
In Aus, but British relatives were calling me to rant about The Evil Nurse Who Kills Babies. Like it rolled straight off the Daily Mirror’s printer and onto their tongues.
Hi random person looking at these comments. Yes, all of these people commenting are insane. No, this does not threaten to blow apart her “entire prosecution.”
No, she is not innocent, or a scapegoat in any way shape or form.
Yes, she killed many babies on purpose, and will never be released from prison.
The most concerning thing about this whole case has always been the emphasis placed on how she behaved. Like it wasn’t deemed “normal”, ergo she was guilty, now let’s scrape together whatever evidence we can to prove this…. So despite only ever coming up with pretty weak circumstantial evidence, she was still doomed.
As a ND person, I found this quite alarming.
At this point she is guilty until there is a trial and a not guilty verdict given.
The court of public opinion is bs and can be swayed one way then the other over a few days.
Enough with the headlines, if there is evidence get on with the appeal and stop blustering.
I’m old enough to start wondering if this case doesn’t have a whiff of Birmingham 7 or Guildford 4 about it.
So people can now decide that Dr Jayaram is a liar based off a snippet of an apparent leaked email
Meanwhile, Letby had 2 trials which brought back unanimous verdicts and for which every single member of the jury decided she was a lair, but somehow shes apparently innocent?
Thankfully we still live in a society where people are innocent until proven guilty, in a court of law. Not in the media.
I’m not sure if people are ware, but Letbys defense has employed a PR firm specialising in damage limitation. They are drip feeding articles to the media at timed intervals to keep the innocence fraud going.
In terms of the Dr, I can’t see why both accounts aren’t telling the same story and are correct. There’s no contradiction.
> I just happened to walk in and Letby was standing over the baby but she hadn’t done anything to help or get medical attention, baby **was** crashed, **at that point** Letby called for my help, **but when I checked** the baby had **already** died, probably due to being so premature, **I thought at the time**”
(Bold are my edits/ additions)
This was always a stitch up! Surely you’re not just realising it!
It’s only a matter of time now before one of the jurors comes forward and speaks to the press.
u/sweeper1985
I should just take your word for it then? Lmao.
She fucken did it. The case now is about protecting those who should have prevented her from doing it.
Peter Hitchens called it from the start
“We have an email that says…”
“May I see it?”
“No”
With the pretty huge leap of taking their word for it that a- the email said this and b- they have not removed important context surrounding this snippet that they quote (without them providing any evidence at all that this is the case): Even by their account the email is discussing a report to police that the doctors have deliberately made a simple description of the cases and specifically changed to avoid “finger pointing”. This is also an official and auditable email made *after* the doctors have already been threatened with the destruction of their careers for their allegations against Letby. As with a lot of this bullshit there is an obvious reason why they don’t put their subjective feelings and things that can’t be proven in work emails after this point.
Even in the worst possible light, at a trial this article would amount to one line of cross examination where he would be asked why he said this in an email and he would almost certainly reply “because I had been threatened and didnt want to put anything in an email that could be used against me and I didn’t think my subjective worry was appropriate to put in an email”.
It also seems from their account that these aren’t actually Dr Jayaram’s words. The report from UnHerd says that he is commenting on a draft report to be sent and the snippet refers to him in the third person. He pretty clearly is not talking about himself in his own words and it is incredibly suspicious that they portay it as if he is while deliberately withholding any surrounding context that could clarify it.
As with a lot of the extrajudicial campaign to clear Letby this appears on its face dishonest and deliberately misleading. As again with a lot of the campaign they take some tiny part of the case, try to cast doubt on it (apparently dishonestly) and then try to pretend it is a “bombshell” that “blows the whole case wide open”.
Letby has had her case reviewed in its entirety at great length and expense. There is literally months worth of evidence against her. All the commenters on these articles have never even bothered to read a fraction of the trial evidence or the extremely accessible appeal verdict. Even the experts her team have pulled on board can’t be bothered to do that so it’s hard to blame random redditors to be fair.
I don’t think most of the public realise how run-of-the-mill this kind of fuck up is in the NHS. Nurses especially but also a lot of training grade doctors are thrown under the bus routinely. Its very easy to bully someone and make sure they’re blamed for everything that goes wrong.
The more I read about this case, the more doubts I have about her guilt but it doesn’t look like any “smoking gun” is going to turn up to settle the matter one way or the other. “Beyond all reasonable doubt” is a pretty high standard and I find “statistical evidence” insufficient, in itself, to meet that standard. The “fact” that all “suspicious” deaths occurred on her watch even though none can be directly attributed to her might seem compelling, but it isn’t that simple. Some “suspicious” deaths were almost certainly natural and many; perhaps all were natural; not a result of deliberate actions intended to harm the infant. Nobody can be certain of any of those deaths. There appears to be a pattern of only those deaths that occur on or around Lucy’s presence being liable “suspicious”. Only medical experts have the knowledge to really assess the likelihood of a death being “suspicious” and then it is all conjecture; based on written reports and not much else. The fact that they were looking for a pattern could very likely have influenced their findings the pattern.
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