[OC] Fertility an Gender Inequality (2022)

Posted by redmagor

23 comments
  1. What a terrifying graph.

    Would be awesome if it was hosted somewhere where roll-over text would show the country each data point represents. I’m also curious why Asian countries seem to have a lower correlation than the other continents.

  2. What people don’t realise about the current demographic trends is that it seems like unequal societies are heavily favoured from a natural selection point of view. Natural selection does occur at a societal level too, so the implication of this is that societies where men and women are equal won’t last. In the long run they’ll be outcompeted by unequal societies due to sheer population difference. We are unavoidably heading for a future of inequality, or at the very least towards a society with a more traditional lifestyle where the woman stays at home.

  3. What is the gender inequality index. You’re expecting us to know and I bet <1% will have a accurate understanding of what it means beyond the “inequality = bad” idea.

  4. This is like the correlation between drownings and amount of ice cream sold.

    There is no causation, that is a whole different (set of) variables. Like wealth and education.

  5. As David Attenborough put it, when women get the right to choose, they typically choose to not have children.

  6. Indeed, the world is overpopulated, and women often don’t want to do unpaid, unrespected drudgery. Birth rates will go back up as the world becomes less populated and more ecologically stable. There’s no avoiding the decline in population — it’s inevitable, though it might take a while longer. The question is, how do we handle it so that our economies function for the benefit of people?

  7. This is not a beautiful presentation of data. I have no idea what I’m looking at.

  8. Women like to procreate unapologetic and dominant men. Nice guys who present sexual consent forms on the 15th date won’t get laid. What’s new ?

  9. More developed countries have less children and have more women’s rights. This graph is correlated because they are both caused by the same thing

  10. Are you looking for more sparkles? This is r/dataisbeautiful not r/graphsarebeautiful. The headline of the sub clearly states that it is for visualizations that *effectively convey information*. The data and the clear communication of it are the most important part. This graph communicates things very clearly. The only thing I would prefer is some kind of indication as to how gender inequality is being measured because there is such large variation is how that’s done. Other than that, this graph is great.

  11. Now lets see fertility vs iPhone market share. I have a feeling this might be a proxy for how many people live in cities.

  12. A linear regression is not appropriate here. This looks exponential

  13. An oversimplified reading of this chart might suggest that supporting gender equality *causes* lower birth rates. Cue the “MAGA to the rescue!” reaction. But let’s not forget: **correlation ≠ causation**.

    This chart actually illustrates a classic case of a third factor at play—namely, the overall development level of a society. As countries become more socially and economically secure, two things tend to happen: birth rates drop *and* institutions become more gender-equal.

    You can find similarly misleading correlations elsewhere. For instance, there’s a famous one between household TV ownership and declining birth rates—the more TVs, the fewer babies. But again, that’s not because TVs are killing fertility. It’s because increased access to education, wealth, and healthcare (which often includes family planning) coincides with both.

  14. More education=less unwanted/unexpected/accidental pregnancy

  15. Gender equality is bad for babies. I wonder how casual this is and if the reason there is such gender inequality is because those ideas outcompeted the equality side by simply having more babies 

  16. There are multiple things that creep me out about this.

    First, how many women that are essentially forced, either culturally or by the men in their life, to becoming… breeding stock.

    Second, how with less than a 0.4 on the inequality index, there’s usually an average of less than 2 children…. implying that long-term, an equitable society will need to find a new way, like immigration from less equitable societies, to ensure a stable population.

  17. If you ever wonder why “trad wives” are being pushed on your social feeds by tech oligarchs that have publicly voiced concerns about a decline in (cheap) labour, look no further than this graph.

  18. When women have the right to choose, they choose to either not have children, or to wait until they’re ready and financially stable. When women can’t choose they end up forced to birth 5 or more unwanted children. Because at the end of the day, pregnancy and birth take a heavy toll on a woman’s body, and in many families the father still leaves most or all of the childcare tasks to the mother. Isn’t it common to hear men saying they’re on “babysitting duty” when they’re asking to look after their own kids?

    What scares me is that some people with awful intentions could take this graph and use it to promote taking rights from women to increase fertility rates.

  19. Interesting fact though. Its not the highly educated women in countries with greater gender equality that are having less children, its the less educated ones. They are the ones that are puttin off having kids and are having less of them.

  20. education and how to avoid unwanted pregnancy could be more related based on how the countries aer stacked here

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