So a Male can touch a trans womans genitals and breats, even of they have had Gender reassinment surgery and been on HRT for many years. As Trans people one most vulnerable groups to sexual assault. I am sure this will not go badly…

by Safe-Hair-7688

39 comments
  1. I’m fairly sure this isn’t what the Supreme Court wanted. I can see trans people who’ve had gender reassignment surgery going back. The whole Scottish GRC thing was because it was literally so badly drafted.

  2. Why are the transport police allowed to strip search anyone should be the question?

  3. People don’t get their breasts or genitals touched by officers during a strip search.

  4. Question: How will they know if someone is a trans woman or a biological woman? Do we now have to all start carrying passports ? (i don’t have a passport as i don’t travel ) How will that work? I can see this going so wrong and so quickly

  5. But surely if they pass enough they will just look like real females?

    There is no legal requirement to carry ID in the UK (the government don’t hand it out to us even when we might need it), so no one needs to carry anything with a gendered information.

  6. So to “protect” female police officers from trans women it’s going to be their job to strip search trans men instead.

    Also why are the transport police strip searching people anyway, you’re no gonna find my ticket there mate.

  7. If you look a bit manly male police are allowed to order you to strip off? Well done ‘feminists’, we brought back state-sanctioned sexual assuault! Fuck me, I wouldn’t want to be an attractive woman on the train if random plods are allowed to go for a grope. “No ma’am I’m allowed to order you to get your tits out, your jaws a bit mannish see?”

  8. The police have to set their policies by the law of the land, rather than individuals view of gender.

  9. How chronically online would you have to be to see this as anything more just clickbait

  10. Fucks sake. The UK is going backwards.

    Absolutely loathe those who have pushed this stupid culture war against Trans people. It is beyond disgusting.

  11. If I’m ever getting searched I’m saying I was born a woman.

  12. It’s what the Unionists and Bigots wanted all along. Men to strip search women and inspect their genitals.

  13. The BTP are being sued by the “Sex Matters” group for BTP’s policy that allowed transwomen officers to search women suspects, this might be a reversal of that policy to reduce the impact of that court case, because otherwise “Sex Matters” could claim that BTP are breaking the law even further.

    “Sex Matters” don’t seem to be at all concerned about transmen officers searching men suspects though. Make of that what you will.

  14. Nobody should be exempt. Nobody should be above the law.

    If they done something to require a search, then that’s their fault.

    This makes sense, if they are biologically male, their sex is male, regardless of their gender, then being strip searched by the same sex is fine and has always been the general rule of thumb. It shouldn’t be an issue at all.

    This being a law, can be abused.

    This not being a law, can be abused.

    If both can be abused, it makes more sense to stick to the majority as the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few as generally speaking that’s how pretty much every society works.

  15. >Sex Matters said the policy “also puts female officers in a humiliating and dangerous position, as they may be pressured to search trans-identified men”.

    What did they think would happen? This is what they campaigned for people treated as their biological sex and this is one of the obvious outcomes, maybe they forgot trans men existed.

  16. Logical answer to me is to allow a trans person to choose. Won’t alter the degrading experience but I can’t see why it should matter to the person doing the search.

  17. Just like for Roe v. Wade in the US, a single decision by the supreme court rolling back a law that has existed for a very long time and an awful lot unravels pretty quickly.

  18. That was an English ruling. Shouldn’t effect Scotland. I say this as we’re in /Scotland not to take away from the horror trans people will experience from this.

  19. Surely if you need to be searched you must be a suspect for some sort of crime which the search would be witnessed by more than one person, so why would it matter if it was male or female or both.

  20. Going to take a brave man to look at some creatures on a glasgow train and assume they aren’t biologically female

  21. Surely they would ask if the person in question if they want a female officer present or to perform the search. Police officers are not socialising, they are providing a civic service.

    Unless some weirdo sex pest gimp slathering that they’re a woman while acting lewd to a female officer, I don’t think they’re going to want the drama of second guessing someone’s gender identity.

  22. Yes nothing says “protect women” like forcing some one to undress in front of the opposite sex

  23. And remember: you’re trans when the police officer decides you’re trans. 

    It was ALWAYS designed to control all women. 

  24. Maybe not do anything that will get you searched. Avoid trains.

  25. Yes, the met police are well known for treating any woman, trans or not sooo well .

  26. Trans community brought this on themselves. Most people are all for ‘live and let live’. The problem started when that morphed into ‘live and let your daughter share a changing room with a fully grown man of questionable mental health……or be labelled a bigot’. Combine that with ‘she/her’ nonsense on email signatures (ie forcing people to talk a language that they knew was nonsense) – and I’m afraid that some common sense had to be brought out.

  27. ACAB works here too, bunch of transphobic fucks. May they make no exception for religions either then

  28. And yet the TERFs genuinely think this is a win for feminism.

  29. Would it not be possible and logical in this instance for the trans woman to request a search from a female officer if that’s what they are more comfortable with? Pretty sure this would be normal practice and it doesn’t interfere with anyone’s rights

  30. They dont touch the genitals in a strip the person being searched is responsible for that part, that being said it would obviously mean that they would have a male officer carrying out a strip search on a trans female.

    However the most important thing here for Scotland is that BTP do NOT have any custody suites in Scotland and Police Scotland has not at this time of posting this changed any policy so that means a female presenting person will be searched by female custody officers unless they specifically request a male as per the current policy.

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