Trans women ‘set to be barred from female bathrooms and sports and could be asked to use disabled toilets at work’ after new landmark ruling links gender to biological sex

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14622617/Trans-women-barred-female-bathrooms-sports.html

by Ivashkin

13 comments

  1. The new guidance has provisions to both ban trans people from facilities/events of their biological sex, and that of their identified gender.

    We’re at the point where you can legally ban trans people entirely from facilities, no matter their birth sex.

    It will only get worse from here.

  2. Transmen have the answer to this for us all by the way. They’re apparently still women no matter how long they’ve been living as male or how long their beard is. So they should go ahead and use female bathrooms as often as possible, and complain loudly that they’re legally a woman whenever challenged.

    Campaigners on this issue will swiftly change their tune and realise that is better for everyone to just let people be where they identify.

  3. Just Make them all unisex with a separate stall for mumsnetters

    That’s what our local pub has

  4. Oh but a bunch of people yesterday were telling me that I was being hysterical saying that the ruling will result in trans people being discriminated against.

  5. But everyone on this sub was saying yesterday that the ruling didn’t actually change anything and people were just overreacting?!?

  6. Honestly, it is about time that we built changing rooms, toilets, hospital wards, and so on properly. It is the 21st century. I am still horrified at the brand new hospitals being built and they still have badly designed open wards.

    Build unisex toilets with a basin in the toilet stall. Then a door out to the corridor.

    Have private rooms instead of open wards. The design of which should be a nursing station in the middle with rooms that are glass fronted and face the nursing station.

    Employ builders and proper designers.

    Clarify sports to be biological sex sports and trans sports. Seems fair.

    Instead, we have outdated facilities and people harping on issues that have a solution for not much money.

    Hold trans people in jail floors for just trans people.

    Yeah, complain about money and any other reason. But this all seems a pointless distraction from more serious issues.

  7. So since no one can tell if someone is trans with 100% accuracy, any woman who doesn’t meet some jobsworth’s arbitrary idea of femininity can/will be barred from using women only spaces.

    This shit harms all women.

  8. Daily Fail sensationalising the ruling, like always.

  9. Ah yes this current Labour government is even more socially regressive than that even the Tories were! Even Cameron is probably more socially progressive than Starmer is!

    Pathetic tbh, and I am not even the most extremely progressive guy in the world, but I still respect LGBT/Trans’ rights, why should they be discriminated for trying to just live their life and be left alone?

    I agree that trans women should not in women’s “competitive sports” (same with trans men in mens sports might I add, mixed gendered sports is fine though) and accepting your original biological sex that you originally came from even after your transition, but affecting their daily rights that all humans should have and should still be treated like the transitioned men/women they have become, fuck right off Labour.

  10. The whole allowed thing is very daft

    I’m a regular man, and I have regularly taken my young daughter into woman’s toilets. There’s no cosmic barrier blocking me. Passing trans women can use whatever they like because no one will know.

    It’s not going to be made a genuine crime to do it.

  11. I share toilets with a colleague who is a transwoman and I certainly won’t be demanding this changes.

  12. I predict many organisations will simply do away with sex-segregated toilets and changing rooms to avoid the complexity. Possibly not what the TERFs wanted

  13. An employer requiring transwomen to use disabled toilets would very clearly be violating the provisions of the Equality Act 2010 designed to protect transsexuals. So this headline (from the Mail) sounds rather unlikely to me.

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