Vance had attended Ohio State before joining the Marines on his upwardly mobile journey from the rust belt to the Vice Presidency. But as he picked up the trophy, the base fell to the floor, and the golden top was caught in the nick of time by the team’s running back. It felt like a sign. Could Vance fumble America’s biggest prize?
The US public is not seeing a lot of Vance. This may seem strange to British readers, as he has just given an interview to the British publication [*UnHerd*](https://unherd.com/2025/04/transcript-unherds-interview-with-jd-vance/) about the “real cultural affinity” between America and the UK. But while he attends White House meetings with dignitaries and pops up from time to time on Fox News, Trump is not obliging him with much of a domestic profile.
Vance is not rich enough or fun enough to be part of Trump’s posse, but he is clever enough to pose a threat. Being Vice-President can be perilous, as Trump’s first VP Mike Pence found out. During the January 6 Capitol riot, Pence put his oath to the US constitution over loyalty to his boss and was thrown to the wolves.
The ambitious Vance is taking the opposite course: shamelessly shilling for his boss. But he is equally disposable. Trump, who doesn’t “do” abroad unless he has to, has been sending Vance here, there and everywhere, far from Washington. Fancying a third term for himself, the 47th President disapproves of the way some right-wing influencers have taken to calling his young sidekick “48”.
He already knows he is. even his billionaire friends can’t buy him charm or common sense.
He is a hell of a lot more disposable than Mike Pence. Mike Pence was actually doing a job. He was being the adult in the room who was at least partially keeping government functioning and keeping at least a thin veneer of respectability. JD Vance ain’t doing shit.
Trump considers all of his minions disposable, including his children.
Trump is a user. He knows how to manipulate people and throw them under the bus.
Where is Rudy now and the pillow guy?
Vance belongs to Thiel, not Trump.
He is arrogance in human form.
Sorry but this is wrong. Vance is a creation of Peter Thiel and is there for a reason. Pence was there to get evangelicals onside .
“We will invade Canada, Panama, and Greenland, but we draw the line at El Salvador”
-James Bowman Vance, more or less
He was always disposable. They should make him walk around in a giant Kleenex box costume.
Just as long as he’s still wearing the same jacket and tie as dear leader.
No amount of eyeliner will make Trump accept him.
This is wrong. It misunderstands Vance’s centrality to bridging techno libertarians (thiel yarvin andreesen lonsdale) with Christian nationalists (Leo, Kevin roberts etc) and with MAGA nativists (stephen Miller etc). He is a cross over agent and thus extremely dangerous.
I don’t know… Vance is the Federalist Society pick. I believe once trump goes “to far” they will remove him and the federalist society will have who they wanted in power all along. They could have never gotten Vance in on his own, he had to be the parasite attached to trump. Vance is playing the role to keep trump happy. Also before the election The Supreme Court helped trump out of legal trouble and out of jail.
Maybe in Trump’s mind? But Peter Thiel has a lot of money invested in Vance and would rather see Trump go. Vance is more malleable.
Hot take: Peter Theil and project 2025 have Vance as the theocratic leader and Trump will take the fall over defying the Supreme Court. They’ll give the raging populous their fall guy and move on reshaping our democratic republic into a theocratic dictatorship unless congress stops it.
Important to remember these people keep their position as long as they do what they are told. Mike Pence wasn’t disposed of, he did the right thing instead of what he was told for once and it cost him his place in the circle. The difference is people like Vance are nothing now without keeping that place in the circle. They will do and say what they’re told with that corporate middle management smile and they’ll like, they have nothing else.
Mike Pence: we’re not so different, you and I
This guy is just a total goober, how embarrassing for this country.
Oh he’s the fall guy
He just doesn’t know it because he’s as dumb as a bag of rocks
Sooner or later he’ll be well and truly thrown under the bus
Peter Thiel paid a lot of money to get JD weirdo Vance to get this far. Trump was just his access to the next level.
I’m gunna go against the grain here and say I think this is naive.
We’ve been hearing sweet muse about Musk being gone for weeks, and it still hasn’t happened.
Vance is completely behind Donald, unlike Pence.
Don’t forget, Vance is closely tied to Thiel and Yarvin, and is a form believer in their ideology.
To be honest with you, I would sooner except Donald to be removed than Vance.
Vance’s only job is to not certify the 2028 election if they can’t get rid of elections all together. He will do what Pence wouldn’t.
JD is a stooge who will absolutely get “Penced”.
I dunno, isnt he the Project 2025 figurehead? He’s bought and paid for by Elon and the Musks, I thought he was their insurance if Trump went off the rails (off their rails, not ours).
> The day before, the President had been at a UFC fight in Miami accompanied by Elon Musk, Robert F Kennedy Jr and other members of his cabinet. Vance was not present at the muscle-fest. Perhaps this is why Vance’s wife Usha said in an interview that being Vice-President “can be a very lonely, lonely world”.
Aren’t the POTUS and VPOTUS not supposed to be in the same vicinity frequently for succession and continuity of government in case something happens to the POTUS?
Vance is arguably more funded and backed by the billionaires Trump gets all starry-eyed over than Trump himself. This is a bad take if you know anything at all about Thiel and co.
he isn’t. not until heritage can get another servant that close to the presidency
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At a White House photocall this week, [JD Vance](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/more-cuddly-jd-vance-emerged-wonder-why-3643322?ico=in-line_link) dropped the ball. Or rather, he fumbled a trophy belonging to the Ohio State Buckeyes, the national college American football winners, while the Marine Band played Queen’s “We Are the Champions”.
Vance had attended Ohio State before joining the Marines on his upwardly mobile journey from the rust belt to the Vice Presidency. But as he picked up the trophy, the base fell to the floor, and the golden top was caught in the nick of time by the team’s running back. It felt like a sign. Could Vance fumble America’s biggest prize?
[Donald Trump](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/whatever-starmer-agrees-with-trump-on-trade-the-trust-is-gone-3646977?ico=in-line_link) witnessed the slip-up. The day before, the President had been at a UFC fight in Miami accompanied by Elon Musk, Robert F Kennedy Jr and other members of his cabinet. Vance was not present at the muscle-fest. Perhaps this is why [Vance’s wife Usha](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/is-jd-vances-wife-usha-already-eyeing-the-oval-office-3608269?srsltid=AfmBOorHWbRGLIt5_Uu3J5nRCo7M_FSv-uHRSeLr5nlVy8e9rxQwcfY2&ico=in-line_link) said in an interview that being Vice-President “can be a very lonely, lonely world”.
The US public is not seeing a lot of Vance. This may seem strange to British readers, as he has just given an interview to the British publication [*UnHerd*](https://unherd.com/2025/04/transcript-unherds-interview-with-jd-vance/) about the “real cultural affinity” between America and the UK. But while he attends White House meetings with dignitaries and pops up from time to time on Fox News, Trump is not obliging him with much of a domestic profile.
Vance is not rich enough or fun enough to be part of Trump’s posse, but he is clever enough to pose a threat. Being Vice-President can be perilous, as Trump’s first VP Mike Pence found out. During the January 6 Capitol riot, Pence put his oath to the US constitution over loyalty to his boss and was thrown to the wolves.
The ambitious Vance is taking the opposite course: shamelessly shilling for his boss. But he is equally disposable. Trump, who doesn’t “do” abroad unless he has to, has been sending Vance here, there and everywhere, far from Washington. Fancying a third term for himself, the 47th President disapproves of the way some right-wing influencers have taken to calling his young sidekick “48”.
He already knows he is. even his billionaire friends can’t buy him charm or common sense.
He is a hell of a lot more disposable than Mike Pence. Mike Pence was actually doing a job. He was being the adult in the room who was at least partially keeping government functioning and keeping at least a thin veneer of respectability. JD Vance ain’t doing shit.
Trump considers all of his minions disposable, including his children.
Trump is a user. He knows how to manipulate people and throw them under the bus.
Where is Rudy now and the pillow guy?
Vance belongs to Thiel, not Trump.
He is arrogance in human form.
Sorry but this is wrong. Vance is a creation of Peter Thiel and is there for a reason. Pence was there to get evangelicals onside .
There’s nothing “soft” about that paywall!
Here you go: https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https%3A%2F%2Finews.co.uk%2Fopinion%2Fjd-vance-disposable-mike-pence-3648160
Vance and Theil should go get a couch together.
“We will invade Canada, Panama, and Greenland, but we draw the line at El Salvador”
-James Bowman Vance, more or less
He was always disposable. They should make him walk around in a giant Kleenex box costume.
Just as long as he’s still wearing the same jacket and tie as dear leader.
No amount of eyeliner will make Trump accept him.
This is wrong. It misunderstands Vance’s centrality to bridging techno libertarians (thiel yarvin andreesen lonsdale) with Christian nationalists (Leo, Kevin roberts etc) and with MAGA nativists (stephen Miller etc). He is a cross over agent and thus extremely dangerous.
I don’t know… Vance is the Federalist Society pick. I believe once trump goes “to far” they will remove him and the federalist society will have who they wanted in power all along. They could have never gotten Vance in on his own, he had to be the parasite attached to trump. Vance is playing the role to keep trump happy. Also before the election The Supreme Court helped trump out of legal trouble and out of jail.
Maybe in Trump’s mind? But Peter Thiel has a lot of money invested in Vance and would rather see Trump go. Vance is more malleable.
Hot take: Peter Theil and project 2025 have Vance as the theocratic leader and Trump will take the fall over defying the Supreme Court. They’ll give the raging populous their fall guy and move on reshaping our democratic republic into a theocratic dictatorship unless congress stops it.
Important to remember these people keep their position as long as they do what they are told. Mike Pence wasn’t disposed of, he did the right thing instead of what he was told for once and it cost him his place in the circle. The difference is people like Vance are nothing now without keeping that place in the circle. They will do and say what they’re told with that corporate middle management smile and they’ll like, they have nothing else.
Mike Pence: we’re not so different, you and I
This guy is just a total goober, how embarrassing for this country.
Oh he’s the fall guy
He just doesn’t know it because he’s as dumb as a bag of rocks
Sooner or later he’ll be well and truly thrown under the bus
Peter Thiel paid a lot of money to get JD weirdo Vance to get this far. Trump was just his access to the next level.
I’m gunna go against the grain here and say I think this is naive.
We’ve been hearing sweet muse about Musk being gone for weeks, and it still hasn’t happened.
Vance is completely behind Donald, unlike Pence.
Don’t forget, Vance is closely tied to Thiel and Yarvin, and is a form believer in their ideology.
To be honest with you, I would sooner except Donald to be removed than Vance.
Vance’s only job is to not certify the 2028 election if they can’t get rid of elections all together. He will do what Pence wouldn’t.
JD is a stooge who will absolutely get “Penced”.
I dunno, isnt he the Project 2025 figurehead? He’s bought and paid for by Elon and the Musks, I thought he was their insurance if Trump went off the rails (off their rails, not ours).
> The day before, the President had been at a UFC fight in Miami accompanied by Elon Musk, Robert F Kennedy Jr and other members of his cabinet. Vance was not present at the muscle-fest. Perhaps this is why Vance’s wife Usha said in an interview that being Vice-President “can be a very lonely, lonely world”.
Aren’t the POTUS and VPOTUS not supposed to be in the same vicinity frequently for succession and continuity of government in case something happens to the POTUS?
Vance is arguably more funded and backed by the billionaires Trump gets all starry-eyed over than Trump himself. This is a bad take if you know anything at all about Thiel and co.
he isn’t. not until heritage can get another servant that close to the presidency
Trump has no friends. He uses people.
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