Maybe the family has a fucking point. I’d be so disappointed if this was my child.
Well, both are actually horrible if implemented with all of the rules and concepts
“Exploitative capitalism” a.k.a earn your own damn money and do with it whatever you want.
These people should be sent back to commie country and forced to live there for at least 20 years.
‘How do I make a cybersecurity expert fall for my Nigerian prince scam’
He shoud explain that PRL was state capitalism, not communism.
good times do in fact creat idiots
jesuschrst
Tankie detected, opinion ignored
Ngl, the person should probably say that modern ideas of communism are different than the old central planning totalitarian communism.
Capitalism is exploitation of man by man. Communism is the exact opposite.
Isn’t it hilarious that only people born in the west think communism is good ? And people who lived through it think it’s terrible.
See, this is why you use a condom. Prevents accidents like these.
i think i lost brain cells reading this
to nie byl prawdziwy komunis
1) Parents have actual user experience
2) Marx: you need capitalism before even attempting communism
I do wonder who is actually failing at facts…
It must be a joke. I know that internet is full of stupid peoples, but trying to explain Poles that communism is better than capitalism is beyond the limit.
The absolute audacity of that kid
Yesterday somebody in another thread wrote the PRL had been
>providing people with easily accessible jobs and living places
That must be why people went on nationwide strikes and literally revolutionized the regime out of existence, sparked by price increases. Because the government provided for the people so nicely. November 1983:
Why not move to Russia/china then, if you believe your parents are wrong?
I wasn’t born in Poland but basically everyone else was in my family and it honestly makes it hard for me to be around some leftists in Canada/USA due to their love for communism. They just don’t get it
the major issue here is, that “communism” as understood by young western armchair leftists is as much an idolized hypothetic as the capitalist “free market”.
in truth and real world implementation, nothing about an unregulated market is really “free”, and the real world implementation of communism failed at scale every single time.
In both cases, the theories dont account for human nature.
As someone who lived in Poland in the seventies, and recalls the troubles of `81, I think its the author who needs to be schooled, not the parents.
I favor a social-democratic structure with a market economy regulated to the benefit of the underprivileged. this makes me a commie or a bourgie, depends on who you ask on the other side of the pond.
It’s kinda sad because from just the idea communism sounds really good and like something everyone should strive for.
It’s only when you look back into history you notice that communism has never worked. And that’s because true communism only works when *everyone* is on board and doesn’t try to take over power for themselves. Sadly we don’t live in a perfect world and so proper communism can never work.
Go to Venezuela, enjoy!
Well problem with communism, as we, in the anglosphere know it, is that it was created by russians. Don’t get me wrong, they are able to create nice things – russian language is beautiful, ballet, literature (I’m not a fan but its is generally acclaimed) or the vocalist Vitas. Nevertheless it’s one of the worst nations that this planet had displeasure of hosting. I’m a Pole, I can admit we have our biases against russians, but please refer to the Massacre of Warsaw’s Praga of 1794 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Praga) or the so called ‘Polish Action of NKWD’ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD) or perhaps the most known russian crime against humanity, the Katyń Massacre (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre). Communism was never meant to be implemented in a state such as russia, which in the early 19th century, after the first world war, was an absolute mess, a backward shithole. Communism, as stated by it’s most known and recognized propositor – Marx, was meant as a natural evolution of highly industrialized, capitalized state, in which ‘The Work Force’ recognize it’s critical role and raise to demand theirs due. It was actually meant for Germany or Britain, but it never cristallized. I am almost sure that one of them, either Marx or Engels, wrote that their idea is cool but it never should be tried in a state such as 19th century russia (google it, I’m open to discord on that).
Also, if you read Marx’s communist manifesto, almost all of its, nomen omen, manifests, were realized. We are currently living in Marx’s vision – state owned factories, health insurance for workers – it’s all there.
That’s just a troll
My wife often jokes that her family and many other Poles benefited from communism – just the benefits came from the collapse of communism rather than during.
Simple. They know better since they suffered from it first. Hey. Communism would work if humans were perfect and actually wanted to work together
It’s a lost cause. Not that the parents are in the wrong, not at all. Communism has destroyed Poland and brought to it starvation, even money was scarce. Both capitalism and communism are flawed. I honestly can’t find it in myself to understand why our economy cannot be trading instead. Money is destroying everything
Gotta be real, this looks like a total bait. The way it’s phrased so nonchalantly it’s a bit on the nose.
Talk about socialism, not comunism.
Yep, good luck, son. Communism only works in rich boi’s head, like Marx. Only fools can come up with a system like that. Rich fools with nothing to worry about.
I just wonder what kind of people would be the leaders of this “new good modern communism” – the some people who are up there in the current system but without the last remaining poor limits and control. No thanks. Greatings from a former communist country.
What a dissapointment. Imagine your child “trying to use facts” to convince you that communism is good, all while you lived through communism and thrived without it.
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“At least they did housing well!” 🤡
https://preview.redd.it/ww15xufq8nve1.png?width=319&format=png&auto=webp&s=99dc296d08c4d26255ba6e0238573a21ccc97cd5
Maybe the family has a fucking point. I’d be so disappointed if this was my child.
Well, both are actually horrible if implemented with all of the rules and concepts
“Exploitative capitalism” a.k.a earn your own damn money and do with it whatever you want.
These people should be sent back to commie country and forced to live there for at least 20 years.
‘How do I make a cybersecurity expert fall for my Nigerian prince scam’
He shoud explain that PRL was state capitalism, not communism.
good times do in fact creat idiots
jesuschrst
Tankie detected, opinion ignored
Ngl, the person should probably say that modern ideas of communism are different than the old central planning totalitarian communism.
Capitalism is exploitation of man by man. Communism is the exact opposite.
Isn’t it hilarious that only people born in the west think communism is good ? And people who lived through it think it’s terrible.
See, this is why you use a condom. Prevents accidents like these.
i think i lost brain cells reading this
to nie byl prawdziwy komunis
1) Parents have actual user experience
2) Marx: you need capitalism before even attempting communism
I do wonder who is actually failing at facts…
It must be a joke. I know that internet is full of stupid peoples, but trying to explain Poles that communism is better than capitalism is beyond the limit.
The absolute audacity of that kid
Yesterday somebody in another thread wrote the PRL had been
>providing people with easily accessible jobs and living places
That must be why people went on nationwide strikes and literally revolutionized the regime out of existence, sparked by price increases. Because the government provided for the people so nicely. November 1983:
https://preview.redd.it/parroxzocnve1.png?width=465&format=png&auto=webp&s=37cf01883c955f58f7d4c3764364d33fb9b35ffc
Social democracy is best.
Why not move to Russia/china then, if you believe your parents are wrong?
I wasn’t born in Poland but basically everyone else was in my family and it honestly makes it hard for me to be around some leftists in Canada/USA due to their love for communism. They just don’t get it
the major issue here is, that “communism” as understood by young western armchair leftists is as much an idolized hypothetic as the capitalist “free market”.
in truth and real world implementation, nothing about an unregulated market is really “free”, and the real world implementation of communism failed at scale every single time.
In both cases, the theories dont account for human nature.
As someone who lived in Poland in the seventies, and recalls the troubles of `81, I think its the author who needs to be schooled, not the parents.
I favor a social-democratic structure with a market economy regulated to the benefit of the underprivileged. this makes me a commie or a bourgie, depends on who you ask on the other side of the pond.
https://preview.redd.it/3ql1uunqinve1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76ae60594f85d301e980c649e39479ad6f670894
Three Arrows of fight
Against Nazi
Against Communism
Against Autocracy
It’s kinda sad because from just the idea communism sounds really good and like something everyone should strive for.
It’s only when you look back into history you notice that communism has never worked. And that’s because true communism only works when *everyone* is on board and doesn’t try to take over power for themselves. Sadly we don’t live in a perfect world and so proper communism can never work.
Go to Venezuela, enjoy!
Well problem with communism, as we, in the anglosphere know it, is that it was created by russians. Don’t get me wrong, they are able to create nice things – russian language is beautiful, ballet, literature (I’m not a fan but its is generally acclaimed) or the vocalist Vitas. Nevertheless it’s one of the worst nations that this planet had displeasure of hosting. I’m a Pole, I can admit we have our biases against russians, but please refer to the Massacre of Warsaw’s Praga of 1794 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Praga) or the so called ‘Polish Action of NKWD’ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD) or perhaps the most known russian crime against humanity, the Katyń Massacre (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre). Communism was never meant to be implemented in a state such as russia, which in the early 19th century, after the first world war, was an absolute mess, a backward shithole. Communism, as stated by it’s most known and recognized propositor – Marx, was meant as a natural evolution of highly industrialized, capitalized state, in which ‘The Work Force’ recognize it’s critical role and raise to demand theirs due. It was actually meant for Germany or Britain, but it never cristallized. I am almost sure that one of them, either Marx or Engels, wrote that their idea is cool but it never should be tried in a state such as 19th century russia (google it, I’m open to discord on that).
Also, if you read Marx’s communist manifesto, almost all of its, nomen omen, manifests, were realized. We are currently living in Marx’s vision – state owned factories, health insurance for workers – it’s all there.
That’s just a troll
My wife often jokes that her family and many other Poles benefited from communism – just the benefits came from the collapse of communism rather than during.
Simple. They know better since they suffered from it first. Hey. Communism would work if humans were perfect and actually wanted to work together
It’s a lost cause. Not that the parents are in the wrong, not at all. Communism has destroyed Poland and brought to it starvation, even money was scarce. Both capitalism and communism are flawed. I honestly can’t find it in myself to understand why our economy cannot be trading instead. Money is destroying everything
Gotta be real, this looks like a total bait. The way it’s phrased so nonchalantly it’s a bit on the nose.
Talk about socialism, not comunism.
Yep, good luck, son. Communism only works in rich boi’s head, like Marx. Only fools can come up with a system like that. Rich fools with nothing to worry about.
I just wonder what kind of people would be the leaders of this “new good modern communism” – the some people who are up there in the current system but without the last remaining poor limits and control. No thanks. Greatings from a former communist country.
What a dissapointment. Imagine your child “trying to use facts” to convince you that communism is good, all while you lived through communism and thrived without it.
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