The thing is though on what piece of land are they placed, and who owns the land. No good having a home and nowhere to put it
They look very cool, but consider that your origami house is neither furnished nor connected to water, electricity and gas or what have you. Now I’m sure they’ve made that easy enough to do in the localities they serve, but generally you move in somewhere that’s already done. Still, the idea itself could be adopted and used to suit our immediate needs here.
That said, if we can’t get them to just fucking build then we’re at nothing lol
No. If it isn’t a 3 bed semi D made from concrete then it isn’t suitable for anyone to live in.
There aren’t enough regulations for this. My colleague is looking to buy a house and seriously considered a tiny house. However they are considered a ‘mobile structure’ so she would only be able to erect it in a campsite or wherever those sites are called. Not on her piece of land, that has actually proven even harder to find. Especially in Dublin.
How do you connect it to water/electricity/gas? How suitable is it for the Irish climate? I can see that letting water in at the joins.
It’s a nice idea but I don’t believe it would work here.
There are a multitude of innovative housing solutions available that are affordable and we’ll suited to our climate. This is a problem that could easily be solved if there was the political will to find a solution – but the powers that be are profiting from the housing crisis so they’re happy for it to continue.
Yeah let’s fill the countryside with these things so everyone has to drive everywhere.
These things are a recipe for housing estates but shitter build quality and with even less access to amenities.
There’s a problem for every solution. Especially on the ireland subreddit.
The housing crisis can be tackled more effectively by better regulating land prices, not by putting people in ever smaller boxes.
I would love one of these. Was googling for one last night, a place down in Cork does them. On the website it says planning permission is straight forward enough. Also on YouTube there is a tiny homes series that is very cool, about people who downsized and bought one. They are not cheap though, for a 1 bed I think it was 85,000 – 135000 depending on fixtures. Come with a 20year guarantee.
If enough people started doing it they’d slap some extortionate tax on it
Planners would never let you put one up.
Even if they did, health and safety would say its against building regs.
Even of they did, the objections would be widespread.
Even if they weren’t the tax on these would make them uneconomical.
If people want these to work, the government needs to make rules to adapt to them.
Or maybe stop making so many laws make it harder and harder to build homes.
They’d be brilliant but you’d have to get out of bed to make your breakfast. I’d prefer to pay extortionate rent to have my bed beside the cooker.
Who pays for these? They are thousands each, whos land do they get out on? How long until this short term solution is the permanent solution. Over time those in these tiny houses would begin to complain that they are living in tiny housing.
Honestly, there are a lot of options to get a house up in less than a week (minus foundation, water, electricity) and those have been around for decades. Planning laws in Ireland don’t allow for them to go up. It’s not the tech that’s missing, it’s purely that even on your own land you’re not allowed to build them. A 35 m2 blockhouse build is 10-15k for the shell ,but you can’t get one in any official way cause planning. It is just fucking dumb.
Temporary solution that would become permanent and overpriced due to land prices. Would be great for single people in their early 20s who want a space to themselves rather than house share, I’d have loved this when I was younger rather than sharing with absolute slobs during my postgrad
This is more like a patch of duct tape on a broken pipe than a proper solution.
It would certainly do the job for me
/r/Ireland posts images of accommodation like this with the bed in the kitchen every week calling it a disgrace. You don’t know what you want.
Surely building multi storey apartment buildings would be a better use of land than these?
No. We don’t need to techno-bro a solution out of this. Just build the fucking accommodation.
Land is too expensive, nimby-ism is too easy, labour is non-existent. All of this needs major work and is really difficult to fix but we didn’t elect the people in charge to just shake hands.
Yeah, but the main problem would be that one bed home would be marketed as a solution for a family of five
They’d all be bought up and rented out immediately
“You will own nothing and you’ll be happy.”
No, we need high density, purpose built apartment blocks with green spaces adjacent (Or a large green space within 5 minutes).
This is not simply a “housing” crisis, it is a planning crisis. You don’t fix it by just throwing up some shabby modular homes, it requires proper city planning factoring in transport, public amenities, parks, etc.
I fucking 💚 tiny houses because I am a minimalist. But they’ve become trendy, so are insanely expensive and you may just aswell get a regular house
I don’t think so. It would just become substitute poor quality housing and I would also question what the expected lifespan is of that product. It’s kitted out nicely, but it’s looks little better than a mobile home?
It would also be far too expensive to do for individuals trying to save a deposit.
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The thing is though on what piece of land are they placed, and who owns the land. No good having a home and nowhere to put it
They look very cool, but consider that your origami house is neither furnished nor connected to water, electricity and gas or what have you. Now I’m sure they’ve made that easy enough to do in the localities they serve, but generally you move in somewhere that’s already done. Still, the idea itself could be adopted and used to suit our immediate needs here.
That said, if we can’t get them to just fucking build then we’re at nothing lol
No. If it isn’t a 3 bed semi D made from concrete then it isn’t suitable for anyone to live in.
There aren’t enough regulations for this. My colleague is looking to buy a house and seriously considered a tiny house. However they are considered a ‘mobile structure’ so she would only be able to erect it in a campsite or wherever those sites are called. Not on her piece of land, that has actually proven even harder to find. Especially in Dublin.
How do you connect it to water/electricity/gas? How suitable is it for the Irish climate? I can see that letting water in at the joins.
It’s a nice idea but I don’t believe it would work here.
There are a multitude of innovative housing solutions available that are affordable and we’ll suited to our climate. This is a problem that could easily be solved if there was the political will to find a solution – but the powers that be are profiting from the housing crisis so they’re happy for it to continue.
Yeah let’s fill the countryside with these things so everyone has to drive everywhere.
These things are a recipe for housing estates but shitter build quality and with even less access to amenities.
There’s a problem for every solution. Especially on the ireland subreddit.
https://bigmantinyhomes.ie/
The housing crisis can be tackled more effectively by better regulating land prices, not by putting people in ever smaller boxes.
I would love one of these. Was googling for one last night, a place down in Cork does them. On the website it says planning permission is straight forward enough. Also on YouTube there is a tiny homes series that is very cool, about people who downsized and bought one. They are not cheap though, for a 1 bed I think it was 85,000 – 135000 depending on fixtures. Come with a 20year guarantee.
If enough people started doing it they’d slap some extortionate tax on it
Planners would never let you put one up.
Even if they did, health and safety would say its against building regs.
Even of they did, the objections would be widespread.
Even if they weren’t the tax on these would make them uneconomical.
If people want these to work, the government needs to make rules to adapt to them.
Or maybe stop making so many laws make it harder and harder to build homes.
They’d be brilliant but you’d have to get out of bed to make your breakfast. I’d prefer to pay extortionate rent to have my bed beside the cooker.
Who pays for these? They are thousands each, whos land do they get out on? How long until this short term solution is the permanent solution. Over time those in these tiny houses would begin to complain that they are living in tiny housing.
Honestly, there are a lot of options to get a house up in less than a week (minus foundation, water, electricity) and those have been around for decades. Planning laws in Ireland don’t allow for them to go up. It’s not the tech that’s missing, it’s purely that even on your own land you’re not allowed to build them. A 35 m2 blockhouse build is 10-15k for the shell ,but you can’t get one in any official way cause planning. It is just fucking dumb.
Temporary solution that would become permanent and overpriced due to land prices. Would be great for single people in their early 20s who want a space to themselves rather than house share, I’d have loved this when I was younger rather than sharing with absolute slobs during my postgrad
This is more like a patch of duct tape on a broken pipe than a proper solution.
It would certainly do the job for me
/r/Ireland posts images of accommodation like this with the bed in the kitchen every week calling it a disgrace. You don’t know what you want.
Surely building multi storey apartment buildings would be a better use of land than these?
No. We don’t need to techno-bro a solution out of this. Just build the fucking accommodation.
Land is too expensive, nimby-ism is too easy, labour is non-existent. All of this needs major work and is really difficult to fix but we didn’t elect the people in charge to just shake hands.
Yeah, but the main problem would be that one bed home would be marketed as a solution for a family of five
They’d all be bought up and rented out immediately
“You will own nothing and you’ll be happy.”
No, we need high density, purpose built apartment blocks with green spaces adjacent (Or a large green space within 5 minutes).
This is not simply a “housing” crisis, it is a planning crisis. You don’t fix it by just throwing up some shabby modular homes, it requires proper city planning factoring in transport, public amenities, parks, etc.
I fucking 💚 tiny houses because I am a minimalist. But they’ve become trendy, so are insanely expensive and you may just aswell get a regular house
I don’t think so. It would just become substitute poor quality housing and I would also question what the expected lifespan is of that product. It’s kitted out nicely, but it’s looks little better than a mobile home?
It would also be far too expensive to do for individuals trying to save a deposit.
They’ll find a way to ruin it for everyone
Only 2000€ a month.