Doctor Who confirms overnight ratings for Lux – lowest in series history

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1. Not surprised. It was rather predictable imho and Mrs Flood is just getting boring now. “Oh look she’s breaking the 4th wall”. With no pay off.

   Sure… yet. But it’s been too long I think.

2. I think anyone who is a Doctor Who fan watched it some time during the day. lux has lower viewing figures than the premiere as more people knew they could watch it any time they wanted.

   If the iPlayer numbers are also down, then that’s really bad, but it’s very hard to make any deductions from just the “watch broadcast” numbers.

3. I watched it, it just seemed a bit over indulgent. Maybe I’m just getting old but all character development seems to be rushed and ultimately shallow. In general the second run by RTD has just felt off and clumsy.

4. Not watched since the end of Capaldi’s run. Doctor Who is not for me now… but going by the continued declining viewing figures, god knows who its actually for now.

5. It reminds of the show back in the 1980s it has just lost its way and probably needs a good long holiday.

6. The BBC should make shows that people actually want to watch like Dr Who.

7. It’s just a badly-written woke lecture now. I almost threw up when they referred to a ‘male-presenting doctor’.

8. The show’s been huffin’ its own farts for too long. Time to shelve it.

9. I kinda wish the BBC wouldn’t allow Doctor Who to use up so much sci-fi budget and airtime.

   Bring back shows like Blake’s 7, our Doctor Who on hiatus for a few years.

10. It still came in the top 10 in the rankings and number 2 drama on the BBC behind only Casualty. The night was dominated by ITV and live programming. With the BBC peaking at 2.1M viewers for the whole night.

11. Doctor Who was good when it was well written and make interesting social commentary.
    It forgot how to the first so now relies too heavily on the second.

12. I liked ncuti gatwa so far, I would have watched this new episode if id seen a single advert telling me it was released

13. I used to be a die hard fan, and I completely forgot that it’s on at the moment. It’s just not that good any more.

    I love the show, but at the moment it’s just not very interesting.

14. Created a TV show for an audience that doesn’t care for it and insulted the audience that did watch it.

    Pure genius

15. SF can do woke without shoving it down your throat. ST:TOS managed it eg interracial kiss with Uhura, a Russian man, a Japanese man, all of them as valued crew members.Dr Who and RTD both did it eg Harkness, the doctor himself saying that sexual politics were different in the future, the Master turning into Missy. As for defining woke…well if you’re too lazy and/or stupid/brainwashed to do so it yourselves…attitudes that are perceived as self-righteous or insincere. That’s from the OED. What is turning off the viewers is that the message is overwhelming the story. The message should be sweetened by a good story and good acting.

16. I tried watching some, having not watched since the first ever reboot.

    It’s painful – non-stop preaching on progressive issues

17. Well yeah, Dr. Who has gone from episodes which run the line between lighthearted adventure fiction with a dod of family friendly black mirror on the side to scripts which seem to be written by an AI which scrapes bluesky for all of its hot social takes. It’s just a bit dull, none of these talking points are new or groundbreaking. Incels and gender identities and incel gender identities were a hot topic a decade ago, now society is so fucking bored of it all.

18. Despite all the negativity in this thread, this series has actually started incredibly strong. The best it has in years.

19. Tbf if your showrunner and lead actor seem to want to tell decent amounts of the audience “this show isn’t for you” then its probably not surprising if a bunch of them decide, fair enough, and don’t watch

20. I always find it a bit awkward to criticise without sounding “uggh bloody woke stuff” but I do think there’s some merit to the writing being absolutely terrible and clunky and unfortunately that usually is the “woke parts”.

    More trans characters, great. Deus ex machina ending because being trans is a superpower,not so great.

    Characters dealing with trauma from real life events, great. Deus ex machina ending because out of pocket speech about “politicians partying during lockdown” 3 years after the fact, not so great.

    I mean, they literally retconned one of the most tragic endings and one of the most consistent across multiple seasons (Donna never being able to remember the Doctor) so they could get in an “Ughh, men could never” joke. Which doesn’t even make sense because Donna clearly isn’t a man lmao.

21. I couldn’t continue watching after “Star Beast”. 

    I’m not usually one to throw the word woke around but that episode really did feel like it was written by Redditors. 

    IMO they should have ended this show with Capaldi and perhaps revived it in another 20 years. 

22. My issue with dr who these days is it’s just too crisp. Too clean. Too cgi. Even basic sets like a house room, feel fake now, like someone’s ran the episode through an AI filter. It’s all lens flare and super polished surfaces and just feels unnatural.
    Also something I liked about Belinda that highlighted an issue for me is when she said she’s not an adventure for him to solve and she didn’t wanna go travelling, just to go home. Yea too often the companion is some grand key to the universe and is all over the dr. Was okay at first. But that ideas wore thin after 20years. Gimme less polished, less clean. Less world resting on the companion and more character development between them outside of she’s the key to life and fancies him.

23. The loud people online who they’re trying to cater this show to are not the audience of the show. The figures dont lie. Pandering to people who dont watch it.

24. I watched everything up through Capaldi. Tried Jodie Whittaker’s run, but the writing was so awful I just couldn’t make myself sit through it.

25. I stopped watching somewhere in the capaldi era. I decided to give it an honest shot again last season and watched the whole season, but to be honest it’s really poor these days. There’s no coherent or compelling story to be told, no real character development.
    Doctor who always made political/social commentary, but it was subtle and woven into a story they already wanted to tell. Now they start with a political stance and then put a shallow story over the top and it just feels like a cringefest even when I agree with the point they’re making.

26. No problem with the woke stuff, would be nice if a sci fi show had the sci fi at the fore front

27. Ever since I was a kid, I’ve always watched Doctor Who. It always got me wondering about what else there could be in the universe. It gave me an interest in astronomy, philosophy, justice, and the aliens were just plain cool. Now? I barely think about it. It doesn’t excite me – I mean space babies wtf – and I haven’t even started Disney S2. I’ll give it a go, but I think it’s gonna be a miss going forward

28. Start writing the show for the fans again and not the the people you want 

29. I simply dont like the show anymore. Use to love it years ago. But the quality has gone downhill.

    Its not because im a racist or bigot or whatever you think i stopped liking it…

30. Just put it on Hiatus again and reboot it in 2040. It worked pretty well the last time after the show went downhill in the 80s and rebooted in the 2000s

31. For like 5-10 years I’ve been on that Stockholm syndrome shit of “it used to be really good so I’m going to watch it forever” but this most recent season… I don’t have the time for what this show is right now.

    It seems to be for people who don’t currently like doctor who, people who might like it if it is a bit more like Bridgerton, Heartstopper, Stranger Things, and American Disney slop. The only fans still watching, beyond those who share in my Stockholm syndrome, seem to be the ones who think a show is brave and revolutionary for mentioning homosexuality or because a character slayed in an outfit – people who believe they have very high exacting standards for fiction but actually can be easily placated by nonsense.

    Next week’s looks ok though. I suppose the format lends itself to getting better, but Davies is a tired writer with a tired vision

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