The unions stand over a situation whereby most teachers are employed by the whims of a religious organisation. I’ve never understood why this is considered normal by all involved.
Arent faith based schools a thing of bygone days ?
Of course it should. Education and religious instruction have no need to overlap like it currently does.
Watch absolutely nothing being done about this
Sunday school 😮
If that were to happen literally nobody is getting communion or confirmation. That’s how you know it’s indoctrination
It is nuts it is still happening in Catholic schools.
Anglican schools both primary & secondary do not prepare for confirmations in school hours. Outside school with the Church. (Obviously don’t have holy communions).
Time to remove any sort of religious involvement in schools imo. I think there’s place for learning about religion in schools but only as part of a history class in that context.
Far more interesting things to be learning in class than outdated practices.
Don’t some schools already do this?
I’ve long said it. Make people do this stuff on their own time if that’s what they want to do. All this communion madness bs (in particular)would be gone in no time. There’s scope for an ethics and civics education but there’s no need for organised religion in the classroom
If people choose to send their kids to a Catholic school, they should be allowed to do the sacraments during school time. If you don’t want to do it, you’re free to not do it or don’t attend a Catholic school. How is this an issue worth making a fuss about.
Sixth class should be spent getting kids ready for secondary school, not prepping for confirmation, that’s only common sense. The jump between sixth class and first year is too much otherwise.
But jaysus I wouldn’t want to to be taking that sweet sweet confirmation money off the children either
It’s simple. The cult is waning, but the archaic fables still hold ridiculous influence .
Thankfully, clergy are dying out.
I passed by a church in Italy yesterday.. popped in out of curiosity.
Complete contrast to the vibe after the molester protector from Poland or the right wing hypocrite from Germany.
Youd think with the people’s pope (laughable if you are female) there would be some prayers for the Argentinian hypocrite but no
Church was empty .a wee picture of the man who apologised for the sins of abuse .
Words aren’t actions and money and recompense stillnot forthcoming .
Good riddance to them all
Should be abolished altogether. Go and watch the video of Michael O’Brien on Questions & Answers (in light of his passing away) and if you don’t feel motivated to never step foot inside a church ever again id be shocked
Exactly the church shouldnt have its stucky fingers in education
It should be noted religious education is targeted around what milestone in the faith they’re going towards, basically your only doing have the prep in class because you probably learned about the bible story that day.
Why? It’s a part of our culture and heritage. I think it’s nice that we keep these traditions alive for the next generation. Most people have fond memories of their communion and confirmation and I don’t see why the next generation should be denied that.
Please stop ticking the catholic box on the census if you are not actually a catholic. Perhaps you consider yourself a cultural catholic, but if you don’t believe in transubstantiation & the whole package, then I guess you’re not really a catholic… or are you? Maybe it’s a la carte?!
Anyway, it would certainly help with allocation of funds to schools if we can ditch the ‘catholic country’ nonsense.
i mean ideally yes , will it change ? no
My brother went to an Anglican school , but the mater was insistent he gets his communion and confirmation, not for any religious reasons, just because we all got our payday and therefore so should he. All his classes around it were obviously done outside of school hours.
Reminder of the fact that despite the overwhelming majority agreeing with this inside and outside schools but it still remains the case so you have to ask yourself why is it still happening? Incompetent Dept of Education incapable of delivering it? (plausible, that department is as useless as a chocolate ash tray) or some lingering hold senior figures have towards Roman Catholic Church (also plausible, Dept of Ed typically had some very religious senior civil servants )…. strange one indeed….
I think some parishes already handle the sacrament preparation outside of schools.
Not the entire religious education part.
Grew up in a very rural parish in the 80s/90s where religion was massive. We genuinely spent most of our 1st class and 6th class year preparing for communion and confirmation. A cursory glance at other subjects a few times a week. It was mental. Our school was known (although we didn’t realise it at the time) that when we went to secondary school we were highlighted internally as highly likely to be behind. Which most of use were by missing a large chunk of critical schooling in those years. It’s better now in that school as old teachers retired, but really needs to change overall
yes they should but it’s going to be a hard sell to the primary schools most of which are still ran by the Catholic church yet again i must say our Government needs to do a lot more to divest away from Church ran primary schools
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How is this even a debate.
The unions stand over a situation whereby most teachers are employed by the whims of a religious organisation. I’ve never understood why this is considered normal by all involved.
Arent faith based schools a thing of bygone days ?
Of course it should. Education and religious instruction have no need to overlap like it currently does.
Watch absolutely nothing being done about this
Sunday school 😮
If that were to happen literally nobody is getting communion or confirmation. That’s how you know it’s indoctrination
It is nuts it is still happening in Catholic schools.
Anglican schools both primary & secondary do not prepare for confirmations in school hours. Outside school with the Church. (Obviously don’t have holy communions).
Time to remove any sort of religious involvement in schools imo. I think there’s place for learning about religion in schools but only as part of a history class in that context.
Far more interesting things to be learning in class than outdated practices.
Don’t some schools already do this?
I’ve long said it. Make people do this stuff on their own time if that’s what they want to do. All this communion madness bs (in particular)would be gone in no time. There’s scope for an ethics and civics education but there’s no need for organised religion in the classroom
If people choose to send their kids to a Catholic school, they should be allowed to do the sacraments during school time. If you don’t want to do it, you’re free to not do it or don’t attend a Catholic school. How is this an issue worth making a fuss about.
Sixth class should be spent getting kids ready for secondary school, not prepping for confirmation, that’s only common sense. The jump between sixth class and first year is too much otherwise.
But jaysus I wouldn’t want to to be taking that sweet sweet confirmation money off the children either
It’s simple. The cult is waning, but the archaic fables still hold ridiculous influence .
Thankfully, clergy are dying out.
I passed by a church in Italy yesterday.. popped in out of curiosity.
Complete contrast to the vibe after the molester protector from Poland or the right wing hypocrite from Germany.
Youd think with the people’s pope (laughable if you are female) there would be some prayers for the Argentinian hypocrite but no
Church was empty .a wee picture of the man who apologised for the sins of abuse .
Words aren’t actions and money and recompense stillnot forthcoming .
Good riddance to them all
Should be abolished altogether. Go and watch the video of Michael O’Brien on Questions & Answers (in light of his passing away) and if you don’t feel motivated to never step foot inside a church ever again id be shocked
Exactly the church shouldnt have its stucky fingers in education
It should be noted religious education is targeted around what milestone in the faith they’re going towards, basically your only doing have the prep in class because you probably learned about the bible story that day.
Why? It’s a part of our culture and heritage. I think it’s nice that we keep these traditions alive for the next generation. Most people have fond memories of their communion and confirmation and I don’t see why the next generation should be denied that.
Please stop ticking the catholic box on the census if you are not actually a catholic. Perhaps you consider yourself a cultural catholic, but if you don’t believe in transubstantiation & the whole package, then I guess you’re not really a catholic… or are you? Maybe it’s a la carte?!
Anyway, it would certainly help with allocation of funds to schools if we can ditch the ‘catholic country’ nonsense.
i mean ideally yes , will it change ? no
My brother went to an Anglican school , but the mater was insistent he gets his communion and confirmation, not for any religious reasons, just because we all got our payday and therefore so should he. All his classes around it were obviously done outside of school hours.
Reminder of the fact that despite the overwhelming majority agreeing with this inside and outside schools but it still remains the case so you have to ask yourself why is it still happening? Incompetent Dept of Education incapable of delivering it? (plausible, that department is as useless as a chocolate ash tray) or some lingering hold senior figures have towards Roman Catholic Church (also plausible, Dept of Ed typically had some very religious senior civil servants )…. strange one indeed….
I think some parishes already handle the sacrament preparation outside of schools.
Not the entire religious education part.
Grew up in a very rural parish in the 80s/90s where religion was massive. We genuinely spent most of our 1st class and 6th class year preparing for communion and confirmation. A cursory glance at other subjects a few times a week. It was mental. Our school was known (although we didn’t realise it at the time) that when we went to secondary school we were highlighted internally as highly likely to be behind. Which most of use were by missing a large chunk of critical schooling in those years. It’s better now in that school as old teachers retired, but really needs to change overall
yes they should but it’s going to be a hard sell to the primary schools most of which are still ran by the Catholic church yet again i must say our Government needs to do a lot more to divest away from Church ran primary schools
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