To gain what? Independence for what, how will i as a Welsh person gain from independence, this question is never answered and seems more a reaction to being unhappy with UK government, of which we have our own.
Leanne Wood has wandered out of her house again, I see
Please remember, many more didn’t. What a waste of time
Labour have ruined Wales. Independence would finish us off
Couldnt we just give these people Flat Holm?
There is plenty of room there for them
*We’ll never make it on our own*
Yeah, centuries of English control will do that to a country. Can’t think of a more compelling argument to go it alone than the fact that centuries of English rule have left us so “unprepared” to do so.
It does surprise me that Wales **has never** had a refferendwm on its independence tbh. The fact Scotland has had one makes me feel like Wales deserves its own one.
My only real concern with it would be:
1. Practical i.e. how this could impact residency rights for people born outside of Wales and what the border & trade situation would be like post-indy (plus complexities that might be introduced if Wales later decided to join the EU).
2. Polarisation caused by the refferendwm itself. I have heard from my Scot friends about how horrible and divisive their Indy refferendwm vote was, and we got a bit of a taste of that in Wales with the Brexit Vote.
In other words, is an Indy Vote worth dividing up communities/families? As we know from newspapers wrt Brexit, there are so many people who are still obsessed with their pro-remain or pro-leave views. Despite it being over 5 years now…
It’s for these reasons I lean more to further devolution rather than a clean break.
There are over 3m people in Wales. Even if 20,000 people attended this it’s meaningless and unrepresentative. Yet watch the media present it as some kind of groundswell of support for independence.
To put it into context, the polls say a larger majority than want independence are likely to vote for Reform at the next assembly elections, yet no media outlet would dare present that as a “groundswell” of support for them.
Honestly I’m just exasperated. The same people who argued that going it alone from the EU was a stupid idea are now arguing that wales being a tiny insignificant independent country is the solution to every problem, especially in a world with increasing trade barriers like tariffs and the most dangerous geopolitical time since the Second World War.
I don’t support independence personally, but the growing support for independence (and also somewhat unrelated- Reform as a party) seems to indicate immense disatisfaction with Britain as it currently stands.
I think people are begging for more drastic action, and so are seeking out actions that seem like simple solutions to them, even if they aren’t really tenable longterm.
To me the only solution is dramatic reinvestment in the nation, especially in housing. I doubt many would disagree, but finding that money seems like a difficult thing to do- Which is bizarre as the Britain of 1950 was substantially poorer than the Britain of 2025. If 75 years ago a nation recovering from a war could do it… Why can’t we?
“Thousands”,
What could possibly go wrong?
What really tickles me about the Welsh independence movement is they’re named after the Scottish version, have the same logo and typeface, and even “All under one banner” is a rip off of the Scottish movement of the same name.
Like, if this is about Wales making it’s own way, at least start by making your independence movement totally, well, independent.
Welsh independence would not end well for the land of our fathers
Just make us poorer !
I don’t support independence currently but we could at least have a Wales first administration in Cardiff bay rather than Labour every election.
It’s concerning when Morgan seemingly can’t even get a meeting with Starmer or senior cabinet ministers.
Millions stay at home because they think it’s a ridiculous idea.
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There’s dozens, dozens of us I tell you!
(but in all seriousness, nice)
Can we have custody of the dragon on weekends?
“Thousands”
LOL
To gain what? Independence for what, how will i as a Welsh person gain from independence, this question is never answered and seems more a reaction to being unhappy with UK government, of which we have our own.
Leanne Wood has wandered out of her house again, I see
Please remember, many more didn’t. What a waste of time
Labour have ruined Wales. Independence would finish us off
Couldnt we just give these people Flat Holm?
There is plenty of room there for them
*We’ll never make it on our own*
Yeah, centuries of English control will do that to a country. Can’t think of a more compelling argument to go it alone than the fact that centuries of English rule have left us so “unprepared” to do so.
It does surprise me that Wales **has never** had a refferendwm on its independence tbh. The fact Scotland has had one makes me feel like Wales deserves its own one.
My only real concern with it would be:
1. Practical i.e. how this could impact residency rights for people born outside of Wales and what the border & trade situation would be like post-indy (plus complexities that might be introduced if Wales later decided to join the EU).
2. Polarisation caused by the refferendwm itself. I have heard from my Scot friends about how horrible and divisive their Indy refferendwm vote was, and we got a bit of a taste of that in Wales with the Brexit Vote.
In other words, is an Indy Vote worth dividing up communities/families? As we know from newspapers wrt Brexit, there are so many people who are still obsessed with their pro-remain or pro-leave views. Despite it being over 5 years now…
It’s for these reasons I lean more to further devolution rather than a clean break.
There are over 3m people in Wales. Even if 20,000 people attended this it’s meaningless and unrepresentative. Yet watch the media present it as some kind of groundswell of support for independence.
To put it into context, the polls say a larger majority than want independence are likely to vote for Reform at the next assembly elections, yet no media outlet would dare present that as a “groundswell” of support for them.
Honestly I’m just exasperated. The same people who argued that going it alone from the EU was a stupid idea are now arguing that wales being a tiny insignificant independent country is the solution to every problem, especially in a world with increasing trade barriers like tariffs and the most dangerous geopolitical time since the Second World War.
I don’t support independence personally, but the growing support for independence (and also somewhat unrelated- Reform as a party) seems to indicate immense disatisfaction with Britain as it currently stands.
I think people are begging for more drastic action, and so are seeking out actions that seem like simple solutions to them, even if they aren’t really tenable longterm.
To me the only solution is dramatic reinvestment in the nation, especially in housing. I doubt many would disagree, but finding that money seems like a difficult thing to do- Which is bizarre as the Britain of 1950 was substantially poorer than the Britain of 2025. If 75 years ago a nation recovering from a war could do it… Why can’t we?
“Thousands”,
What could possibly go wrong?
What really tickles me about the Welsh independence movement is they’re named after the Scottish version, have the same logo and typeface, and even “All under one banner” is a rip off of the Scottish movement of the same name.
Like, if this is about Wales making it’s own way, at least start by making your independence movement totally, well, independent.
Welsh independence would not end well for the land of our fathers
Just make us poorer !
I don’t support independence currently but we could at least have a Wales first administration in Cardiff bay rather than Labour every election.
It’s concerning when Morgan seemingly can’t even get a meeting with Starmer or senior cabinet ministers.
Millions stay at home because they think it’s a ridiculous idea.
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