“They want you to believe words are more harmful than genocide.
Establishment figures, desperate to silence us, have combed through hundreds of hours of footage and interviews, extracting a handful of words from months or years ago to manufacture moral hysteria.
Let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah. We condemn all attacks on civilians, always. It is never okay. We know this more than anyone, given our nation’s history.
We also reject any suggestion that we would seek to incite violence against any MP or individual. Ever. An extract of footage, deliberately taken out of all context, is now being exploited and weaponised, as if it were a call to action.
This distortion is not only absurd – it is a transparent effort to derail the real conversation.
All two million Palestinian people in Gaza are currently being starved to death by Israel.
At least 20,000 children in Gaza have been killed. The British government continues to supply arms to Israel, even after scores of NHS doctors warned Keir Starmer in August that children were being systematically executed with sniper shots to the head.
Instead of defending innocent people or the principles of international law, the powerful in Britain have abetted slaughter and famine.
This is where real anger and outrage should be directed towards.
To the Amess and Cox families, we send our heartfelt apologies, we never intended to cause you hurt.
Kneecap’s message has always been — and remains — one of love, inclusion, and hope. This is why our music resonates across generations, countries, classes and cultures and has brought hundreds of thousands of people to our gigs.
No smear campaign will change that.
Suddenly, days after calling out the US administration at Coachella to applause and solidarity, there is an avalanche of outrage and condemnation by the political classes of Britain.
The real crimes are not in our performances; the real crimes are the silence and complicity of those in power.
Shame on them.”
But now what are all those fanatical Kneecap fans going to say, given that only yesterday were ranting about how Kneecap were right to say what they said?
I’m just here to find out if all the posters who’ve been saying Hamas and Hezbollah are a great bunch of lads and you have to support them to support Palestinian liberation are gonna be condemning Kneecap as a bunch of Israel-loving centrist dads now.
Or if everybody’s going to realise they were making a bit of a show of themselves and just slink away.
In all seriousness while this probably has been good for Kneecap’s reputation on net, it’s genuinely terrible for the Palestinian cause to have days of “Hamas=Palestine” discourse FROM THE LEFT. Just doing Hasbara’s bidding there guys!
Fair play. Wasting no time addressing it directly and eloquently. How often do you see that these days?
Kneecap haters- ‘Apologise.’
Kneecap – ‘Okay.’
Kneecap haters – ‘Not good enough.’
Hahahahaha
>We do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah
More likely that their edgy bullshit finally got called out. I went to see them in Vicar Street because I was actually a fan. The day of they uploaded the below picture to their Instagram stories.
The article says one of the group’s members indeed said “up Hamas, up Hezbollah” and that constitutes a crime in the UK as promoting a terrorist group is illegal in there, so I think he will face prosecution according to the British law.
So shouting “Up Hamas” is not advocating support for this terrorist organisation?
Shouting “Kill your MP” is not advocating violence?
So, what were they at so?
It sounds like they are sorry they were caught and this ‘apology’ is just a way to try and get them not cancelled for the summer gigs in the UK.
It’s not a great look to blame others for your actions
Also, no mention if they will take up the offer of the daughter of murdered David Ames’s.
Sick of seeing these gobshites on the news.
That’s not an apology is it?
It’s just blaming others for catching them. Even the apology to the families is a “sorry if you were offended” type.
And then tell us black is white and what you saw and heard did not happen.
“have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
Surly even there fans don’t agree with this?
“Kneecap’s message has always been — and remains — one of love, inclusion, and hope.”
Will be interesting to hear from all the Hamas supporters on here.
Bellends
I like them and usually agree with a lot of what they have to say but “The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP” is a step too far 🫤
The usual “freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences” crowd have gone really silent on this haha.
It feels as though they have pushed things too far. They were on a roll following the movie and festival appearances; there is a line many casual fans of their stuff would draw, and they seem to have crossed it.
There does seem to be an element of a smear campaign here, but everything they are accused of saying, they clearly did
Have they caved, or just realized that their words will affect their bottom line?
Kneecap fans making themselves look real dumb in this thread
Calling that statement an apology is rather stretching the definition of the word. Also what possible context is there for “kill your local mp”?
Fucking morons. Calling out Nethenyahu’s war crimes with the platform you’re given is absolutely commendable and the right thing to do but when you also use that platform to support Hamas and Hezbollah and call for political violence you not only undermine your own credibility, you undermine the credibility of the entire movement.
If they do believe the things they said, and they do support Hamas and Hezbollah and want people to murder MPs, then they’re awful people. If they don’t believe the things they’ve said, then they’ve just, for absolutely no benefit at all, given ammunition to the Nethenyahtu government’s supporters and set back efforts to call out their crimes, making them awful people in an entirely different way.
Kneecap fans are the fuckin worst…..
Sure, words are “less harmful” than genocide but it doesn’t make them “not harmful” – otherwise, you wouldn’t have migrants fearing for their lives after being subjected to verbal abuse from the bigots in their communities, kids being in great distress from cyberbullying, or Palestinians getting threats on social media from literally any person who enables Israel’s genocide.
Also, Kneecap may have admitted that they were tone deaf over that “taken out of context” remark which they made after realizing how Jo Cox died, but surely they would have already known (even before becoming famous) that Jo Cox’s death was the product of a person who made extremism his entire personality because that was literally a major news item in the UK and its neighboring countries (such as Ireland).
At this point, Kneecap is literally trying to monopolize the whole discussion about protecting Gazans to the point of silencing Gazan civilians (in and out of Gaza) who want nothing more than to survive than to kill anyone who is a threat to their survival. I mean come on, most appeals of help from Gaza are “help x move to a safe location/reunite with loved ones outside Gaza” not “help x buy his very own HIMARS unit so that he can take on the entire IDF”.
One of the most frustrating things to hear is someone who has a message that you largely agree with but is delivered in the most unhelpful way possible. The lads are just too eager to provoke and it undermines the message. Some of those chants were just embarrasing, they go about things like teenagers.
Childish edgelords get slapped down by adults and then cry about smear campaign. They smeared themselves and everyone can see it.
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it’s like Punk rock never happened…
[youtube.com/watch?v=bC4RFY8vtuM](http://youtube.com/watch?v=bC4RFY8vtuM)
https://preview.redd.it/u2a0vm615qxe1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ee80eeb6da690388d444c50fb7e4b053753101b
I’ll get myself with the meme
Full statement from twitter
“They want you to believe words are more harmful than genocide.
Establishment figures, desperate to silence us, have combed through hundreds of hours of footage and interviews, extracting a handful of words from months or years ago to manufacture moral hysteria.
Let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah. We condemn all attacks on civilians, always. It is never okay. We know this more than anyone, given our nation’s history.
We also reject any suggestion that we would seek to incite violence against any MP or individual. Ever. An extract of footage, deliberately taken out of all context, is now being exploited and weaponised, as if it were a call to action.
This distortion is not only absurd – it is a transparent effort to derail the real conversation.
All two million Palestinian people in Gaza are currently being starved to death by Israel.
At least 20,000 children in Gaza have been killed. The British government continues to supply arms to Israel, even after scores of NHS doctors warned Keir Starmer in August that children were being systematically executed with sniper shots to the head.
Instead of defending innocent people or the principles of international law, the powerful in Britain have abetted slaughter and famine.
This is where real anger and outrage should be directed towards.
To the Amess and Cox families, we send our heartfelt apologies, we never intended to cause you hurt.
Kneecap’s message has always been — and remains — one of love, inclusion, and hope. This is why our music resonates across generations, countries, classes and cultures and has brought hundreds of thousands of people to our gigs.
No smear campaign will change that.
Suddenly, days after calling out the US administration at Coachella to applause and solidarity, there is an avalanche of outrage and condemnation by the political classes of Britain.
The real crimes are not in our performances; the real crimes are the silence and complicity of those in power.
Shame on them.”
But now what are all those fanatical Kneecap fans going to say, given that only yesterday were ranting about how Kneecap were right to say what they said?
I’m just here to find out if all the posters who’ve been saying Hamas and Hezbollah are a great bunch of lads and you have to support them to support Palestinian liberation are gonna be condemning Kneecap as a bunch of Israel-loving centrist dads now.
Or if everybody’s going to realise they were making a bit of a show of themselves and just slink away.
In all seriousness while this probably has been good for Kneecap’s reputation on net, it’s genuinely terrible for the Palestinian cause to have days of “Hamas=Palestine” discourse FROM THE LEFT. Just doing Hasbara’s bidding there guys!
Fair play. Wasting no time addressing it directly and eloquently. How often do you see that these days?
Kneecap haters- ‘Apologise.’
Kneecap – ‘Okay.’
Kneecap haters – ‘Not good enough.’
Hahahahaha
>We do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah
More likely that their edgy bullshit finally got called out. I went to see them in Vicar Street because I was actually a fan. The day of they uploaded the below picture to their Instagram stories.
https://preview.redd.it/n2jb3xob8qxe1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ebd7da9782bae952d3d7a69e5e01f3527958e2e
The article says one of the group’s members indeed said “up Hamas, up Hezbollah” and that constitutes a crime in the UK as promoting a terrorist group is illegal in there, so I think he will face prosecution according to the British law.
So shouting “Up Hamas” is not advocating support for this terrorist organisation?
Shouting “Kill your MP” is not advocating violence?
So, what were they at so?
It sounds like they are sorry they were caught and this ‘apology’ is just a way to try and get them not cancelled for the summer gigs in the UK.
It’s not a great look to blame others for your actions
Also, no mention if they will take up the offer of the daughter of murdered David Ames’s.
Sick of seeing these gobshites on the news.
That’s not an apology is it?
It’s just blaming others for catching them. Even the apology to the families is a “sorry if you were offended” type.
And then tell us black is white and what you saw and heard did not happen.
“have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
Surly even there fans don’t agree with this?
“Kneecap’s message has always been — and remains — one of love, inclusion, and hope.”
Will be interesting to hear from all the Hamas supporters on here.
Bellends
I like them and usually agree with a lot of what they have to say but “The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP” is a step too far 🫤
The usual “freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences” crowd have gone really silent on this haha.
Ahem…
https://preview.redd.it/31r15k3peqxe1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2168a2ae70cd8d75b854bd2741e56ccf5c5762aa
It feels as though they have pushed things too far. They were on a roll following the movie and festival appearances; there is a line many casual fans of their stuff would draw, and they seem to have crossed it.
There does seem to be an element of a smear campaign here, but everything they are accused of saying, they clearly did
Have they caved, or just realized that their words will affect their bottom line?
Kneecap fans making themselves look real dumb in this thread
Calling that statement an apology is rather stretching the definition of the word. Also what possible context is there for “kill your local mp”?
Fucking morons. Calling out Nethenyahu’s war crimes with the platform you’re given is absolutely commendable and the right thing to do but when you also use that platform to support Hamas and Hezbollah and call for political violence you not only undermine your own credibility, you undermine the credibility of the entire movement.
If they do believe the things they said, and they do support Hamas and Hezbollah and want people to murder MPs, then they’re awful people. If they don’t believe the things they’ve said, then they’ve just, for absolutely no benefit at all, given ammunition to the Nethenyahtu government’s supporters and set back efforts to call out their crimes, making them awful people in an entirely different way.
Kneecap fans are the fuckin worst…..
Sure, words are “less harmful” than genocide but it doesn’t make them “not harmful” – otherwise, you wouldn’t have migrants fearing for their lives after being subjected to verbal abuse from the bigots in their communities, kids being in great distress from cyberbullying, or Palestinians getting threats on social media from literally any person who enables Israel’s genocide.
Also, Kneecap may have admitted that they were tone deaf over that “taken out of context” remark which they made after realizing how Jo Cox died, but surely they would have already known (even before becoming famous) that Jo Cox’s death was the product of a person who made extremism his entire personality because that was literally a major news item in the UK and its neighboring countries (such as Ireland).
At this point, Kneecap is literally trying to monopolize the whole discussion about protecting Gazans to the point of silencing Gazan civilians (in and out of Gaza) who want nothing more than to survive than to kill anyone who is a threat to their survival. I mean come on, most appeals of help from Gaza are “help x move to a safe location/reunite with loved ones outside Gaza” not “help x buy his very own HIMARS unit so that he can take on the entire IDF”.
One of the most frustrating things to hear is someone who has a message that you largely agree with but is delivered in the most unhelpful way possible. The lads are just too eager to provoke and it undermines the message. Some of those chants were just embarrasing, they go about things like teenagers.
Childish edgelords get slapped down by adults and then cry about smear campaign. They smeared themselves and everyone can see it.
Nothing to see here.
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