>She said the court had failed to consider human rights arguments that would have been put by trans people and the judgement had left her with the legal “nonsense” of being “two sexes at once”.
>The Supreme Court considered arguments on trans issues from the human rights campaign group Amnesty International, but not from exclusively trans activists.
>”Trans people were wholly excluded from this court case,” said Dr McCloud. “I applied to be heard. Two of us did. We were refused.
>”[The court] heard no material going to the question of the proportionality and the impact on trans people. It didn’t hear evidence from us.
>”The Supreme Court failed in my view, adequately, to think about human rights points.
Good for her.
There is absolutely a case to be made that the court didn’t hear any actual arguments from Trans people, despite no shortage of arguments from the other side.
They just need to rescind this ruling and be done with it
Dance, puppets.
I wish her the best of luck, all the Supreme court has done is escalate hate within society with the ruling and possibly made it more dangerous to women than they initially planned.
Again, the focus has been shifted. We need cheaper rents, social housing, better wages, cheaper energy prices, cheaper food prices, stricter immigration policies.
Glad she is doing this, particularly after stepping down last year due to the sheer abuse she was being given for being trans, very brave step.
Given past judgements like Goodwin v UK and I vs UK by the ECHR, I can see it being a fairly easy argument as well.
All the supreme court did is reduce a woman down to how feminine they look – which is fucking ridiculous, it’s undone years of campaigning and fighting for the exact opposite.
And ngl if women didn’t feel safe, this didn’t solve the actual issue. Terrible people will do terrible things regardless of gender identity.
Ugh I’m so fucking tired of this. Really. All this effort and energy over something that will NEVER fix the actual issue (unless we move to non-segregated, single room bathrooms nationally).
I want women to feel safe but I don’t think targeting a tiny, docile portion of the population as enemy number one is going to do jack shit for them.
OP you are obsessed.
First 2 words of the headline made me do a double take
Is he a robot in disguise?
Is she a robot in disguise?
Good for her.
Don’t think this will be a quick process though. Quick Google says it could be up to 6 to 7 years.
In the case of Goodwin v UK, the European Court of Human Rights held that the UK had violated the claimant – a trans woman’s – Article 8 rights by failing to recognise her legally as a woman.
The Strasbourg Court held that forcing trans people to live in an ‘intermediate zone’ between two genders was unacceptable.
This led to the creation of the gender recognition act.
With the Supreme Court’s interpretation, Trans people again are not treated consistently by UK law.
The Human Rights Act – the UK’s implementation in law of the European Convention on Human Rights – requires the courts to interpret legislation in a way that is compatible with Convention rights so far as possible.
If a court is unable to, it can issue a ‘declaration of incompatibility’. This alerts the Government to the incompatibility and provides a mechanism for this to be resolved by a remedial order, which amends the legislation to remove the incompatibility without the need for primary legislation.
The Supreme Court screwed up. They either need to re-interpret in a way that is compatible with the convention, or admit that the Equality Act is incompatible and needs to be fixed.
How come Thailand can be comfortable with ladyboys being dudes, yet in Scotland it’s big drama?
Jesus! some folk really cannot accept that their side lost.
Look, first things first I thought Optimus Prime was taking on Europe.
But in seriousness, good for her!
I’m glad someone else has noticed the segregating effects of this decision. I thought I was going mad.
Good.
Trans former? They really had to put those two words together 😭
People should respect the women’s rights. Women’s rights exist to protect girls and women from males.
It’s a very bad time for girls and women to live. Even in supposedly democratic countries, girls and women are being stripped off their sex-based rights.
Further fighting against women’s rights is pure misogyny. No other thing can explain those people’s mindless actions to strip women and girls off their hardly-fought-and-won rights. Women’s rights are there to protect women from man. Man of all kinds.
Women’s rights are not less important than male’s emotions, opinions, thoughts, fantasies, and identities. Unfortunately, some left-wing groups like Labour are full-blown bro culture. They use this issue to weaken the status of women. Leftist misogyny is still misogyny.
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>She said the court had failed to consider human rights arguments that would have been put by trans people and the judgement had left her with the legal “nonsense” of being “two sexes at once”.
>The Supreme Court considered arguments on trans issues from the human rights campaign group Amnesty International, but not from exclusively trans activists.
>”Trans people were wholly excluded from this court case,” said Dr McCloud. “I applied to be heard. Two of us did. We were refused.
>”[The court] heard no material going to the question of the proportionality and the impact on trans people. It didn’t hear evidence from us.
>”The Supreme Court failed in my view, adequately, to think about human rights points.
Good for her.
There is absolutely a case to be made that the court didn’t hear any actual arguments from Trans people, despite no shortage of arguments from the other side.
They just need to rescind this ruling and be done with it
Dance, puppets.
I wish her the best of luck, all the Supreme court has done is escalate hate within society with the ruling and possibly made it more dangerous to women than they initially planned.
Again, the focus has been shifted. We need cheaper rents, social housing, better wages, cheaper energy prices, cheaper food prices, stricter immigration policies.
Glad she is doing this, particularly after stepping down last year due to the sheer abuse she was being given for being trans, very brave step.
Given past judgements like Goodwin v UK and I vs UK by the ECHR, I can see it being a fairly easy argument as well.
All the supreme court did is reduce a woman down to how feminine they look – which is fucking ridiculous, it’s undone years of campaigning and fighting for the exact opposite.
And ngl if women didn’t feel safe, this didn’t solve the actual issue. Terrible people will do terrible things regardless of gender identity.
Ugh I’m so fucking tired of this. Really. All this effort and energy over something that will NEVER fix the actual issue (unless we move to non-segregated, single room bathrooms nationally).
I want women to feel safe but I don’t think targeting a tiny, docile portion of the population as enemy number one is going to do jack shit for them.
OP you are obsessed.
First 2 words of the headline made me do a double take
Is he a robot in disguise?
Is she a robot in disguise?
Good for her.
Don’t think this will be a quick process though. Quick Google says it could be up to 6 to 7 years.
[Procedure & Time limits — Human Rights Guide](https://www.guidedroitshomme.fr/en/themes/human-rights-institutions/european-court-of-human-rights/procedure-time-limits#:~:text=The%20full%20examination%20of%20your%20application%2C%20including%20a,if%20any%20important%20documents%20or%20information%20are%20missing.)
In the case of Goodwin v UK, the European Court of Human Rights held that the UK had violated the claimant – a trans woman’s – Article 8 rights by failing to recognise her legally as a woman.
The Strasbourg Court held that forcing trans people to live in an ‘intermediate zone’ between two genders was unacceptable.
This led to the creation of the gender recognition act.
With the Supreme Court’s interpretation, Trans people again are not treated consistently by UK law.
The Human Rights Act – the UK’s implementation in law of the European Convention on Human Rights – requires the courts to interpret legislation in a way that is compatible with Convention rights so far as possible.
If a court is unable to, it can issue a ‘declaration of incompatibility’. This alerts the Government to the incompatibility and provides a mechanism for this to be resolved by a remedial order, which amends the legislation to remove the incompatibility without the need for primary legislation.
The Supreme Court screwed up. They either need to re-interpret in a way that is compatible with the convention, or admit that the Equality Act is incompatible and needs to be fixed.
Above is mostly sourced from Jess O’Thompson’s brilliant write up here: https://www.wearequeeraf.com/uk-supreme-court-rules-that-trans-women-arent-women-under-the-equality-act-2010/
Transformers… robots in disguise.
How come Thailand can be comfortable with ladyboys being dudes, yet in Scotland it’s big drama?
Jesus! some folk really cannot accept that their side lost.
Look, first things first I thought Optimus Prime was taking on Europe.
But in seriousness, good for her!
I’m glad someone else has noticed the segregating effects of this decision. I thought I was going mad.
Good.
Trans former? They really had to put those two words together 😭
People should respect the women’s rights. Women’s rights exist to protect girls and women from males.
It’s a very bad time for girls and women to live. Even in supposedly democratic countries, girls and women are being stripped off their sex-based rights.
Further fighting against women’s rights is pure misogyny. No other thing can explain those people’s mindless actions to strip women and girls off their hardly-fought-and-won rights. Women’s rights are there to protect women from man. Man of all kinds.
Women’s rights are not less important than male’s emotions, opinions, thoughts, fantasies, and identities. Unfortunately, some left-wing groups like Labour are full-blown bro culture. They use this issue to weaken the status of women. Leftist misogyny is still misogyny.
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