Who else feels the same way? Its not china ripping us off, it’s our own ppl, china makes our goods for dirt cheap then an American company sells it back to us at a 1000%+ markup, rxample iphone cost 50$ to manufacture look at that markup to roughly 1200$.



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  3. They make it on child labor idiot and then china uses it to by tanks to run over thuer citizens who protest that is fact

  5. Oftentimes, the markup is to pay for past and future R&D costs. The manufacturing of the raw material into the goods is not what sets the price.

  7. If it were a truly free market it would have freeflow of information and these greedy fucks would be required to tell us how much they upcharge from the import 

  8. Americans: the actual points and arguments dont matter, I only look at who says these points if they look like me and uses a lot of “God” in their speech. A Chinese can say that fire is hot and I will think its a lie and therefore must think fire is cold.

  9. The guy is 100% correct. China didn’t make this happen, decades of poor policy and the lack of commitment by big corporations towards the citizens of the US did. I don’t blame China one bit, as they are going to do what is best for them. That being said, what DT is doing isn’t the answer, not by a long shot and is going to make things so much worse on the poor/working/middle classes. There is no ‘long game’ where the US wins in this scenario unless other massive changes take place.

  11. I wanna live in a genuine, good, and peaceful environment 😞

    IDC or idgaf what country accomplishes this, the outcome is what matters. I’m tired of political brain rot

  13. It’s being so funny seeing Americans debating these topics. This is what a third world country feels.

    btw, an iphone cost between 400 and 700 depending of the model. The eletronics market isn’t a good reference for this argument because a large part of it are monopolies. But you are right, compare a nike t shirt or some famous branded toy and you will reach the same conclusion

  14. Of course China would say that… Divide and conquer, it’s a common strategy.

  16. The issue is not Trump, the issue is after Reagan US turned from democracy into corpocracy, and with every president no matter of the party, corporations gain more power. Both parties shifted public conversation to avoid any debate about that. Democrats turned questions like LGBT and DEI into political agenda, and Republicans turned their political narrative into critique against that. Like these are the biggest problems of vast majority of people in US. And media play the game too. Even Hollywood plays the game. Only Biden, who literally lost his mind pointed the problem after he left the White house – corporations rule US and this is not normal. And Bernie talks, but entire Democratic party is holding him away from the political power.

  17. Not sure we need a revolution — the new boss could be worse than the old boss — but I appreciate his well-articulated points. Neither party has done enough to help working class people. That the democrats did so little that Trump was able to come in and convince rural and working class voters he’d save them is such a stain on the democratic party.

  18. This guy is 10000000% correct!!! We have been getting screwed for years & it is time to take our country back!!!

  19. Yes this is what they design in the US for how many decades. Now they are losing and wanted to blame China

  20. There is no “ripping us off” in global trade. The thought that a trade imbalance equals “getting ripped off” is the thought of a child.

    Tariffs are a tool designed to make less expensive foreign goods more expensive – more expensive than already expensive, domestic goods.

    Tariffs are paid by domestic consumers. So at some point the average consumer, living near or at paycheck to paycheck financially, can no longer afford to buy any of the tariff-targeted goods, foreign or domestic. That creates a steep drop in domestic demand.

    That drop in demand can eventually be met by domestic producers dropping their sales price, but that has to happen through lower production costs. If production costs are mostly labor, production laborers will need to accept lower wages – or management needs to get rid of human labor via automation (neither of which bodes well for US workers).

    Targeted tariffs, applied judiciously, have always been used to help targeted domestic industries. Mass tariffs applied across the board (currently, without much thought on repercussions) have only been tried once before, to try to protect the US from falling into a Greater Depression – it only made life in the US much worse (if you are unfamiliar with Smoot Hawley (beyond Ferris Bueller), look it up and brace yourself for some upcoming, self owned, home-grown US stupidity.

  23. $50 for Apple to assemble and manufacture. Not the cost to produce. Bill of material analysis is usually $350-450 on the flagship iphones. They don’t make all the parts and are still largely a systems integrator, now with chip design work too but they don’t manufacture the main chip, TSMC does. Apple also typically pays for exclusive early access to each new leading TSMC node but maybe Nvidia can outbid them now.

  24. The amount of Chinese propaganda on Reddit these days on Reddit absolutely insane. It’s scary how china is manipulating so many. We don’t need a revelation, we need to show up and vote in local, state, and federal elections.

  25. I’m surprised by how on point Chinese people, seemingly not experts, are for a “country without democracy”: not just the right analysis, but a surprisingly empowered perspective for a country whose last revolution was crushed with tanks, and locked people to let them starve three years ago.

    It’s not exactly new, or original but it’s eloquent.

  26. People don’t understand that manufacturing is NOT the only cost. There is shipping, distribution, SOFTWARE, innovation of the product itself (Apple tends to be ahead of the curve which means a lot of the components have never existed before have to be developed from scratch—higher cost), security software (best on the market), innovation to continue being the best on the market, they also split the profit with the marketplaces/ stores they are in. They alsoo had to order MILLIONS for it to be that price. You cannot order 1 for $50. They also likely are buying inventory on credit, which mean they also have pay interest. And more. IT DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT. This narrative about US companies and brands is a psyop and regular Americans do not understand that.

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