Flaming hot take: Sexual harassment is bad, actually.
If anyone asks whether you have a penis, you can pick from a number of answers.
“None of your business” is acceptable, yet bland.
“Yes, and it’s bigger than yours” is my personal favourite.
These culture wars are getting quite tiresome aren’t they.
I see that the Tories (the press in general are mostly Tory-aligned) are really focusing on this. They know the majority of people (not on Reddit) would say “No, that is not a woman” or they’d say “If it’s a fella, I wanna know” so they’re trying every way to “gotcha” left-wing politicians. It’s a classic diversionary tactic to stop the public from thinking about Boris breaking lockdown rules, the economy being in the toilet and the sweeping poverty being experienced by people in this country.
I personally don’t care what people identify as and I will call someone a woman if they want to be referred to as a woman. This is a non-issue getting far too much airtime in mainstream politics when the focus should be on the disgustingly corrupt government.
Its not really acceptable to question anyone about their genitals.
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>Ms Rayner said it could be appropriate for a trans man to be asked whether he might be pregnant ahead of medical treatment, following reports that some NHS trusts are now including the question *for all patients regardless of their gender*
For the sake of efficiency, wouldn’t it best to ask the patients gender, then their sex (or vice versa). Thus eliminating asking, for instance, cisgender men a series of pointless questions about whether they’ve ever had a hysterectomy, if they’re pregnant, taking the contraceptive pill or when their last smear test was.
Seems fairly important for a doctor to know the exact circumstances of the patient they are dealing with, as soon as possible.
She’s right, and it’s not really acceptable to ask anyone, except maybe your partner, what genitals they have.
To all those saying that a person can identify as they please, your just taking the easy option without solving anything and I don’t blame you.
Yes a person can identify as they please but you still need a legal framework.
Quick and dirty example, currently if a man dresses up as a woman and then proceeds to use a womens changing room at a swimming baths and exposes his penis to others including children that man will be arrested.
Now if this man says “No wait I identify as a woman” does this make it okay in a legal context and if not should it?
Now the counter argument is that this doesn’t happen now so why should it in the future.. Well one could say it doesn’t happen now because as I said, that person would most likely be arrested.
Now going forward are we legally going to say that the above will become legal?
At what point is it okay for somebody who has a penis regardless of how they identify use a women legally be aloud to use a woman only facility?
In regards to changing rooms you can easily get around this by getting rid of gender specific rooms and just have them all unisex with fully walled lockable cubicles.
What about places like women shelters?
Should somebody who still has a penis be allowed to use a women’s shelter..
We are talking about safe place where women who are beaten, raped, abused etc can take shelter and feel somewhat protected.
Are you legally going to give somebody who has a penis regardless how they identify access to these places?
I honestly don’t know, I have no answers but it is an issue that needs to be resolved for all involved from a legal standpoint.
Just clarify, I 100% believe that a person should be able to live their life in whatever way makes them happy and doesn’t cause harm to others.
However as a man I am in no position to dedicate to any women that should give up their safe places or be put in a position where they feel threatened.
Now I understand I will most likely be downvoted and that is fair enough, what I would ask is that if you feel I am wrong then please explain why.
Uk population’s answer: “no one cares, let people live their lives, stop being fucking weird about the contents of their pants.”
Of course it isn’t, it’s no one’s business other than themselves.
Why would you ask *anyone* about their genitals?
Honestly, throwing these questions at Rayner, to what end? Why not put Boris on the spot and ask him this?
Has anyone seen the cesspit that is the daily mail lately?
Their stories seem to all be either transphobia or celebrating the royal family for being able to tie their own shoes…
Well…. yeah.
Did anyone actually think it was appropriate to ask other people about their privates?
Almost like they’re called private for a reason? xD
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Flaming hot take: Sexual harassment is bad, actually.
If anyone asks whether you have a penis, you can pick from a number of answers.
“None of your business” is acceptable, yet bland.
“Yes, and it’s bigger than yours” is my personal favourite.
These culture wars are getting quite tiresome aren’t they.
I see that the Tories (the press in general are mostly Tory-aligned) are really focusing on this. They know the majority of people (not on Reddit) would say “No, that is not a woman” or they’d say “If it’s a fella, I wanna know” so they’re trying every way to “gotcha” left-wing politicians. It’s a classic diversionary tactic to stop the public from thinking about Boris breaking lockdown rules, the economy being in the toilet and the sweeping poverty being experienced by people in this country.
I personally don’t care what people identify as and I will call someone a woman if they want to be referred to as a woman. This is a non-issue getting far too much airtime in mainstream politics when the focus should be on the disgustingly corrupt government.
Its not really acceptable to question anyone about their genitals.
[removed]
>Ms Rayner said it could be appropriate for a trans man to be asked whether he might be pregnant ahead of medical treatment, following reports that some NHS trusts are now including the question *for all patients regardless of their gender*
For the sake of efficiency, wouldn’t it best to ask the patients gender, then their sex (or vice versa). Thus eliminating asking, for instance, cisgender men a series of pointless questions about whether they’ve ever had a hysterectomy, if they’re pregnant, taking the contraceptive pill or when their last smear test was.
Seems fairly important for a doctor to know the exact circumstances of the patient they are dealing with, as soon as possible.
She’s right, and it’s not really acceptable to ask anyone, except maybe your partner, what genitals they have.
To all those saying that a person can identify as they please, your just taking the easy option without solving anything and I don’t blame you.
Yes a person can identify as they please but you still need a legal framework.
Quick and dirty example, currently if a man dresses up as a woman and then proceeds to use a womens changing room at a swimming baths and exposes his penis to others including children that man will be arrested.
Now if this man says “No wait I identify as a woman” does this make it okay in a legal context and if not should it?
Now the counter argument is that this doesn’t happen now so why should it in the future.. Well one could say it doesn’t happen now because as I said, that person would most likely be arrested.
Now going forward are we legally going to say that the above will become legal?
At what point is it okay for somebody who has a penis regardless of how they identify use a women legally be aloud to use a woman only facility?
In regards to changing rooms you can easily get around this by getting rid of gender specific rooms and just have them all unisex with fully walled lockable cubicles.
What about places like women shelters?
Should somebody who still has a penis be allowed to use a women’s shelter..
We are talking about safe place where women who are beaten, raped, abused etc can take shelter and feel somewhat protected.
Are you legally going to give somebody who has a penis regardless how they identify access to these places?
I honestly don’t know, I have no answers but it is an issue that needs to be resolved for all involved from a legal standpoint.
Just clarify, I 100% believe that a person should be able to live their life in whatever way makes them happy and doesn’t cause harm to others.
However as a man I am in no position to dedicate to any women that should give up their safe places or be put in a position where they feel threatened.
Now I understand I will most likely be downvoted and that is fair enough, what I would ask is that if you feel I am wrong then please explain why.
Uk population’s answer: “no one cares, let people live their lives, stop being fucking weird about the contents of their pants.”
Of course it isn’t, it’s no one’s business other than themselves.
Why would you ask *anyone* about their genitals?
Honestly, throwing these questions at Rayner, to what end? Why not put Boris on the spot and ask him this?
Has anyone seen the cesspit that is the daily mail lately?
Their stories seem to all be either transphobia or celebrating the royal family for being able to tie their own shoes…
Well…. yeah.
Did anyone actually think it was appropriate to ask other people about their privates?
Almost like they’re called private for a reason? xD