Look what people want is more opinion pieces And less facts… That way they get more of the kind of news I’m getting paid to give out…
Blatant lies / untruths and we are willing to feed you.
The people like being lied to, honest!
~ *Known Liar*
That’s a tricky comment. I get that people want to reinforce their beliefs but someone needs to tell the news how it is.
Oh my fucking god … do these people even hear themselves???!!!
BBC … Because Bullshut Counts??
Totally the wrong person to have in power at the BBC and his attitude is ridiculous. The entire reason to have a publicly funded BBC news is that it’s supposed to be as impartial and objective as possible. It’s not there to chase clicks or tell people what they want to hear like commercial media.
The “99% also claim they wash their hands after going to the loo” quote is just typical of the patronising Tory attitude towards the general public. Reading this guys history it’s pretty clear he may as well be part of the Johnson government and I hope when they get voted out he gets flushed out down the river with them. I mean really how many PPE Oxford graduates can the country take.
People don’t want to get threatening letters in the post if they don’t want to subscribe to your service/pay for a tv license
Stop that and people will be a lot more positive about the BBC and they might even earn more subscribers. Netflix and Disney aren’t threatening to invade people’s homes and prosecute them if they choose not to pay for the service, the BBC need to do the same
BBC are supposed to be special because of the nature of their funding.
If it gets turned into Fox News in the UK – then no reason for it to continue to get special treatment or funding.
Oh wait. ….
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I think the number of vox pops on news programmes (assuming that’s what people like), tells us that people just want to know that ‘people like them’ think the same. People are more interested in hearing the comforting lies that reinforce their prejudices, than in reality.
Personally, I don’t give a fuck what random person in Basingstoke thinks about a news item. I want to be informed by people who know what they are talking about.
I mean, I bet he’s not wrong. Everyone likes to think they’re moderate (save a few who revel in the edginess of being extremist), everyone likes to think they get a balanced viewpoint and everyone likes to think they’re not biased, but when you speak to most people (especially on this subreddit, it must be said) there are a lot of people whom you can tell get all their news from a small echo-chamber grouping of subreddits, while still thinking the above. And any attempt to point out this contrast is met with strong pushback.
It seems to be a human thing, where we get a lot of good feeling from being told what we want to hear, but few people are willing to admit it.
From Wikipedia: A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party
People need to realise this guy was put in power by the Tories. So instead of attacking the BBC, understand who this twat is and what the game is.
Well he’s right…. People want news that reinforces their beliefs.
Only to look at this sub on article praising the U.K. vs criticising it to see that.
If it was popular it wouldn’t need public funding asshole
It’s always done a good line in upholding Queen and country, as a good state broadcaster should. The myth of an unbiased BBC is a bit like the myth of “fair play” in a country with one of the world’s oldest class systems.
Do I remember things correctly? Back in the day there used to be a reasonably comprehensive run through of many world events ending with an “and finally ” moment ( some guy training ferrets to cover Beatles songs or summat). Obviously the newspapers covered more also, news of the world or titbits and the Sunday times for a balanced view.
The British view of the BBC always interests me. It’s left wing biased or a right wing mouth piece. Compare it to the psychos on Fox news and it shines like a beacon. Everything seems to be dumbing down for a population that is dumbing down. Strange times in the news media.
I read the Economist. Not because I necessarily agree with everything they write, but because the standard of research and presentation is superb. They are also very clear about their opinions. They’ll present the facts and what they think about the facts. I can agree or disagree.
So there’s good and bad journalism, opinions are fine so long as they are honestly presented.
He is right, but what people want and what people need are two different things, everyone wants their echo chamber reinforced and views validated, it’s the job of the news not to pander to that, it needs to give an accurate account of what’s happening.
./..it’s the wrong thing to say but i feel like a lot of people (at least whoever’s most vocal) really want something that agrees with them, like confirmation bias, vs impartiality. but also considering how the BBC pretty much blindly support the Monarchy & whoever is currently in power…it’s not a surprise they’d say this
The public want the BBC to be impartial as reasonably practical. It is a public corporation. Do our bidding peon
So is he suggesting we all secretly want to be lied to and manipulated by the BBC?
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Look what people want is more opinion pieces And less facts… That way they get more of the kind of news I’m getting paid to give out…
Blatant lies / untruths and we are willing to feed you.
The people like being lied to, honest!
~ *Known Liar*
That’s a tricky comment. I get that people want to reinforce their beliefs but someone needs to tell the news how it is.
Oh my fucking god … do these people even hear themselves???!!!
BBC … Because Bullshut Counts??
Totally the wrong person to have in power at the BBC and his attitude is ridiculous. The entire reason to have a publicly funded BBC news is that it’s supposed to be as impartial and objective as possible. It’s not there to chase clicks or tell people what they want to hear like commercial media.
The “99% also claim they wash their hands after going to the loo” quote is just typical of the patronising Tory attitude towards the general public. Reading this guys history it’s pretty clear he may as well be part of the Johnson government and I hope when they get voted out he gets flushed out down the river with them. I mean really how many PPE Oxford graduates can the country take.
People don’t want to get threatening letters in the post if they don’t want to subscribe to your service/pay for a tv license
Stop that and people will be a lot more positive about the BBC and they might even earn more subscribers. Netflix and Disney aren’t threatening to invade people’s homes and prosecute them if they choose not to pay for the service, the BBC need to do the same
BBC are supposed to be special because of the nature of their funding.
If it gets turned into Fox News in the UK – then no reason for it to continue to get special treatment or funding.
Oh wait. ….
[removed]
I think the number of vox pops on news programmes (assuming that’s what people like), tells us that people just want to know that ‘people like them’ think the same. People are more interested in hearing the comforting lies that reinforce their prejudices, than in reality.
Personally, I don’t give a fuck what random person in Basingstoke thinks about a news item. I want to be informed by people who know what they are talking about.
I mean, I bet he’s not wrong. Everyone likes to think they’re moderate (save a few who revel in the edginess of being extremist), everyone likes to think they get a balanced viewpoint and everyone likes to think they’re not biased, but when you speak to most people (especially on this subreddit, it must be said) there are a lot of people whom you can tell get all their news from a small echo-chamber grouping of subreddits, while still thinking the above. And any attempt to point out this contrast is met with strong pushback.
It seems to be a human thing, where we get a lot of good feeling from being told what we want to hear, but few people are willing to admit it.
From Wikipedia: A former banker, he worked at JP Morgan for eight years, and then for 23 years at Goldman Sachs. Sharp was an advisor to Boris Johnson during his tenure as London Mayor, and to Rishi Sunak as Chancellor. He has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party
People need to realise this guy was put in power by the Tories. So instead of attacking the BBC, understand who this twat is and what the game is.
Well he’s right…. People want news that reinforces their beliefs.
Only to look at this sub on article praising the U.K. vs criticising it to see that.
If it was popular it wouldn’t need public funding asshole
It’s always done a good line in upholding Queen and country, as a good state broadcaster should. The myth of an unbiased BBC is a bit like the myth of “fair play” in a country with one of the world’s oldest class systems.
Do I remember things correctly? Back in the day there used to be a reasonably comprehensive run through of many world events ending with an “and finally ” moment ( some guy training ferrets to cover Beatles songs or summat). Obviously the newspapers covered more also, news of the world or titbits and the Sunday times for a balanced view.
The British view of the BBC always interests me. It’s left wing biased or a right wing mouth piece. Compare it to the psychos on Fox news and it shines like a beacon. Everything seems to be dumbing down for a population that is dumbing down. Strange times in the news media.
I read the Economist. Not because I necessarily agree with everything they write, but because the standard of research and presentation is superb. They are also very clear about their opinions. They’ll present the facts and what they think about the facts. I can agree or disagree.
So there’s good and bad journalism, opinions are fine so long as they are honestly presented.
He is right, but what people want and what people need are two different things, everyone wants their echo chamber reinforced and views validated, it’s the job of the news not to pander to that, it needs to give an accurate account of what’s happening.
./..it’s the wrong thing to say but i feel like a lot of people (at least whoever’s most vocal) really want something that agrees with them, like confirmation bias, vs impartiality. but also considering how the BBC pretty much blindly support the Monarchy & whoever is currently in power…it’s not a surprise they’d say this
The public want the BBC to be impartial as reasonably practical. It is a public corporation. Do our bidding peon
So is he suggesting we all secretly want to be lied to and manipulated by the BBC?