I get the dismayed and demoralised emotions, but how on Earth can they be 'shocked' when the policies they've implementing like taking away winter fuel payments and making the disabled worse off rather than just do as they indicated they would before the election and tax the extremely wealthy more, and close the loopholes that billion pound+ companies use to avoid paying tax in the UK? These are exactly the kind of policies that are likely to turn away their normal voters – hardly shockworthy is it? It's like holding someone poor at gunpoint and then claiming to be shocked that the victim didn't like the experience.
Labour MPs 'feeling dismayed, demoralised and shocked' after local elections
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Labour just needs a new leadership.
On the day before the election Farage floated stopping the NHS being paid for with taxes. Its Reform policy to give a 20% discount to people sending their kids to public schools. They have plenty of other shitty ideas that will only help the rich.
People are not voting on mainstream policy issues. If they were Reform wouldn’t get a look in.
Shows how out of touch they are, pretty much their first policy was scrap the Rwanda scheme, second penalise the native population and third lock-up any dissenting voices.
I’ve never known a more tyrannical period in UK history
Read a book mate.
This from a twitter post by a Warwickshire resident:
“I had a word with one of the officials at the local count earlier. It seems that so many of the Reform candidates didn’t even want to win in the first place. They were just told to put their names down and it would all be fine.
More than a couple of them were seen crying straight after. Not tears of joy but tears of panic. A lot of these Reform candidates/winners have well-paying jobs, but councillors only get paid a fraction of that for a workload which far exceeds the hours of a 9-5. Apparently, “I don’t want to give up/lose my job” was the late afternoon mantra. And not just here either.
Some were even asking how to quit, not even an hour after they’d won.
What you have – at least at County level for Warwickshire is a Reform majority made up of people who have never even sat on a council before.
Buckle up and prepare for By-elections within six months.”
They can’t be shocked they’ve made like 2 popular decisions in nearly a year and had shown 0 confidence… Even in the unpopular decisions they did make.
They’re shocked because they thought these policies would appeal to reform voters.
But just like brexit they fail to understand that the red wall feels utterly sold out by Labour and they’re tired of being told that they’re stupid/racist/<insert put down here>.
The Southport riots should have been the eye opener, but instead we get Nottingham police banging up a woman for 31 months for a single deleted tweet. Guess which county Council has just been taken by Reform, that’s right, Nottingham.
Just typical cultural elite out of touch with the real people of this country
Why? They did this. Labour and Conservative are two sides of the same arse. Both have lied again and again and again. Now people are sick of it….
Neither party learned the lessons from brexit.
Well, naturally – they all know that Keith is going to lead them to a wipeout and they’ll be kicked off the gravy train in four years time, and unlike their leader, there’ll be no six figure corporate gig or after dinner speaking fees waiting for them
Meanwhile Russia and China laughing at how we still haven’t learned from misinformation. ..
Is it really that difficult to enforce KYC for the use of social media
>Labour MPs ‘feeling dismayed, demoralised and shocked’ after local elections
How the hell do they think we feel at their failure to listen to those that elected them to power
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Labour have got five years at least to do what they promised. It would make sense to get any unpopular policies put in place at the beginning so that they won’t be fresh on our minds come the general election. If they manage to get their more popular policies in place and starting to bear fruit by the last year of this term then it will be a different story all together. Is this wishful thinking? Perhaps, but believing that they are so incompetent that they couldn’t see how unpopular their early policies would be is pretty naive also.
One thing to consider is that the current ‘tsar’ behind Labour’s strategy is Morgan McSweeney. Aside from making Alastair Campbell look like the most moral soul in the Country. McSweeney is very well known for being very focused and pragmatic, and also being heavily focused on numbers in the long game.
McSweeney is very much behind the strategy of ‘making hard calls at the start and sprinkling nice stuff later’. Because when an election is close/called, the momentum of gaining in the polls is a far better position when incumbent than trying to stave off attacks from all sides and holding onto a lead. As recent elections in Canada and Australia have shown.
McSweeney is likely to be the one behind unpopular moves like the Winter Fuel Allowance.
The problem is, I don’t think he is anywhere near as shrewed as Alastair Campbell was. I also think he is clearly taking the wrong lesson from polling and surveys.
For example, the benefits cuts actually polled quite well, with 50-60% thinking they were needed. The problem for them is, the people that its popular with, are not Labour voters, and even if Labour execute Tory/Reform policy well, they just alienate their own voters far more than they gain.
The only ‘right wing’ policy they need to nail, is immigration and asylum. Everything else they should be focused on helping the working class.
I wonder if stuff like [this](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6a9a68b6998fc8a1) will help.
The polls were showing what was coming.
I think Starmer won’t lead the party in the next elections.
Labour are being too arrogant. They think they have a massive majority. While technically they do, they don’t have anywhere close to a majority with the population.
The vast majority don’t agree with their policies and now they are slowly learning that lesson.
Starmer promising to go further and faster is only going to make it worse.
They’ve taxed the poor instead of the rich, they have lost me – a lifetime Labour voter. They also did nothing to save Royal Mail. I’m not voting again for any party again until they improve the lives of ordinary people substanstantially while in power.
So basically, any party will get my vote only when they have shown me a good 5 year track record of results, they’ll got nothing from me in advance.
Reform have nothing to offer in terms of real policies other than copying what Trump is doing….however some British folk are so fickle they don’t actually do the detail in politics and think solely about themselves!
Let reform get in and they will soon see just how Trumpesque it will become here!
Stupid following stupid! You just can’t make this nonsense up!
A Labour party just as willing to comply with debt based economics as all the other parties and a public that is completely stupid on the subject its almost funny to watch except it isn’t
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