‘Young people must be taught to love the UK’, Reform claims, with children suffering ‘industrial-scale demoralisation’

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/reform-children-love-uk-farage-yusuf/

by tylerthe-theatre

48 comments
  1. I can’t hear any echoes of Nazi Germany in this statement.

  2. The UK not having Farage in it would go a long way to making it more likeable. Maybe start with that.

  3. Option 1: give them something to love

    Option 2: tell them they must love something crap

    Reform are British Taliban

  4. There’s loving your country and then there’s the kind of ‘loving your country’ Reform want and those are two very different things.

  5. > Zia Yusuf claimed that British people had undergone an “industrial scale demoralisation”, with children “taught… that they should hate their country”.

    “We must discover the untermensch that is teaching this to our children…”

  6. God the pipeline from moronic takes like this in the US to them being repeated in the UK is pretty short these days.

  7. I would love the UK far more if Farage was an object of redicule for everyone, instead of just many people.

  8. There’s plenty to love about the UK.

    Reform isn’t one of them.

  9. Didn’t take long for the jingoism to emerge.

    Why the fuck are Reform doing victory laps like they’ve won an election and starting to make all these demands? They have 5 MPs again. Why do we have to listen to them talk shit all the time in the press and media?

  10. There’s an identity crisis in this country, but the solution ain’t this chief

  11. Well a bunch of racist boomers are hardly the people who are going to get children to love the UK given that they are one of the reasons to not love it. The descent into open and vitriolic racism in our country over the last 20 years is a key reason why I think the UK is a much shitter place to live in now than it was when I was a young adult.

    I presume next on the list will be special youth groups with uniforms that only “true” British children can join where they will be taught about the great nation of Britain and their heritage as true Britons. Nigel that then visit this groups and wave to them and they can wave back.

  12. Tackle wealth inequality and you won’t have to force young people to love the country.

  13. Love tolerance, love kindness, love honesty, love progressive forward thinking: love the UK, despise Reform.

  14. I wonder why young people feel zero attachment to their country after it cut funding for them for 15 years, puts them in 50k debt if they dare have ambition, and puts every single spare penny toward the elderly for some fucking reason lol

    Clearly they just need to be taught nationalism. They have zero reason to dislike a nation built for and by pensioners on the backs of young people.

  15. “Young people must be taught to drink the piss the rich rain down on them and love the UK anyway”

  16. This flag shagging nationalistic bullshit. At every turn when abroad they decry the UK. Its shit, all the services are on their knees etc. Any council they have won they are promising ‘doge style cuts to services’. Then, here, they think we are all supposed to bend the knee to king and country? Get all the way to fuck. This is getting absolutely ridiculous. Why on earth are we supposed to listen to these absolute charletans? 

  17. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science.

  18. FFS I really hope Labour get their asses in gear soon. We do not need UK version of MAGA.

  19. Selling out their futures by leaving the EU probably wasn’t a great idea then.

  20. Ironic because most of the reform voters that I have seen and heard don’t seem to love the UK that much.

  21. “The beatings will continue until morale improves” kinda shit

  22. Kids demoralisation is not because they believe the empire was brutal and because Churchill was a racist…it’s y’know societal bonds weakening, death of community, constant underfunding and individualism which makes people think of themselves not in the community

    They love Britain- the culture, the music, the humour etc

  23. What a jingoistic little sentiment. Firstly, if you want us to love it more, give us something to love and fix the broken social contract for young people so that they can afford to live somewhere safe and pursue their dreams.

    But we do love the UK. We love that it is a tolerant and inclusive place. I love that last year, we ordinary decent Londoners came out to stop right wing thugs putting bricks through British businesses and places of worship and setting them on fire.

    But Farage’s dream of a homogenous Britain where your freedoms and public services are gradually taken away from you. Well I don’t love that at all, and I will defend each and every one of my
    British country men and women if it comes to that.

  24. if I wanted to live in a fascist country I would go and live in the USA.with Nigel’s friend Trump. People are so fucking stupid. Reform are absolute trash.

  25. UK must be taught to do something worth loving it for

  26. Here are some suggestions: invest heavily in education at all levels, including technical work, so young people have better prospects. Invest heavily in a variety of community groups so young people have a range of places to feel like they belong. Clean up the environment so that young people can access amazing places and experience the multiple health benefits of doing so.

  27. If you care about domestic problems we want you to ignore, you’re unpatriotic.

    If you care about foreign problems we want you to ignore, you’re an anti-semite.

  28. I don’t like Reform’s policies but they have a valid point (even if how they would solve it is wrong). “We” spent so long tearing down nationalism, history, and religion, and other things that brought society together, without replacing them.

    No wonder people feel like they don’t have anything to connect to other people with. Some people obviously need those things.

    It is bigger than that too, tech hasn’t helped, but the whole “no nations, only workers” idea has inevitible consequences.

  29. “I mean look at me” he said “am I not the perfect example of a genuine British man of the people?” Then went back to his millions and to orchestrate stripping some more wealth from the poors.

    Are Brits that dumb? No

  30. Translated: Reform intend to introduce far right indoctrination from nursery school upwards.

  31. If anything sums up the sheer hatred for ones fellow countrymen, women and girls…..look no further than Labour Minister and MP…Lucy Powell.

    Her grotesque, outrageous and disgusting comments yesterday on BBC’S Any Questions programme around the Grooming Gangs, showed once again the utter contempt Starmers government have for the British Working Class.

    This barely 24 hours after they got whipped in the by election and local elections…and Starmer laughably claiming ‘ We get it’.

    They are finished and Powell should resign immediately.

  32. Whilst I do agree. There is a lot our country has done to be proud of (World wars, abolishing slavery etc, however as of right now in the present young adults have absolutely nothing to he proud of.

    “Look, of course, you know, the British Empire was not perfect, but I actually think overall the British Empire did much more good for the world than it did bad.”

    This line of thinking is extremely

  33. Haven’t reform campaigned on how everything is shit evry politicians is shit and we (despite having a lit of politicians who were in that conservative government) will make it not shit.

    Seems strange to be told to love something you have been told is shit for years.

  34. He’s right.. nobody would fight for this country anymore

  35. Funny how loving the UK always means loving something that happened 100’s of years ago not today.

    That’s because the kind of society Reform wants isn’t ever gonna be loved by young people

  36. We are half way into the 1984 scenario, may as well jump in and brainwash them from birth. Definitely solve all our problems

  37. Child poverty is at its highest in 200 years

    Austerity has lead to significant cuts to youth services such as youth clubs, parks etc

    Lack of teachers due to terrible working conditions has resulted in oversized classes making them difficult/impossible to steer and teach.

    Those who do go to university are laden with debt while our MPs had free education.

    That student loan is at a high interest rate and many people will never pay it off

    House prices are high compared to our salaries and rent is also high making it near impossible to save a decent mortgage

    We’ve been told our retirement packages won’t be as good as our parents

    Illegal migration isn’t been tackled and many of these individuals work on low wages and are willing to resulting in entry level jobs at minimum wage with it being incredibly difficult to make actual money to be comfortable on.

    Mental health services are also down the gutter

    Furthermore we’re supplementing benefits for older people while being told we won’t get the same benefits

    But no as far as reform has been taught, we need to be taught how to love the U.K. and that it’s character and not the broken system resulting in the dislike

  38. I’ve just seen another thread saying Nottingham council (just taken by reform) are looking to ban WFH for council employees. So yeah, “love the UK while we proceed to fuck you out of the few privileges you have” seems about right.

  39. I thought the right where kicking up a fuss about indoctrination recently?

    How strange.

  40. This is one thing I actually agree with. People are taught to hate the countries history because they’re never taught the good it does. You can’t solve issues when you know nothing about how they started. For example this stupid pay for reparations for the slave trade fad. This doesn’t take into account all the countries asking are all countries who participated in the slave trade, and completely ignores the fact that without Great Britain, there would still be slavery to this day. GB is the reason you live in a world without slavery.

    (Minus the fact Africa and the middle east has slaves)

    If we don’t build a sense of national community, you get division. The toughest times in our history we had a sense of national identity to push us through it. It works when we all build towards a common goal with common values. That’s what a nation is.

    Yes there’s plenty of reasons to hate our current governments. So then unite as a nation. Everyone here that is slagging off GB, you love in one of the greatest countries in the world (despite its many flaws). Whether you feel it or not, you are lucky.

  41. One of the biggest benefits of being British is you can be as unpatriotic as you want. Reform can go sod themselves.

  42. It’s not that there aren’t interesting social and cultural things about the UK. There’s a lot to love…

    But it’s hard to love your country when you’re struggling to make ends meet. You’re unable to get a dentist and are paying taxes, but with long waits for NHS services and benefits if you get made redundant.

    I’m in my 40s and don’t know if I’ll ever be able to retire. I’m not yet on the property ladder and far from it. Things are worse for people 20 years younger.

  43. This isn’t a message to young people. Its directed at older voters who think young people are out of control due to fear mongering

    Curious if its their new strategy given how flooded this sub is gone from immigrants commiting crimes to young people are criminals now

  44. This is almost word for word what Stephen Miller said in the USA two days ago. 

    We were wrong about Reform having no plan – Project 2025 (UK) it is.

  45. Some good old patriotic indoctrination.

    Nothing fascist about that.

  46. I love The UK. I love the landscape, the wildlife, the seasons, the average stranger in the pub having a laugh over a pint with the next table over, our contribution to the arts and sciences, so many things.

    I also hate a lot about it too. How streets are full of litter because no one cares, how selfish we can be toward each other, the atrocities we were party to, the current economic climate pricing out large swathes of people of their home towns/cities/the entire country, so so many things.

    I had to move out of The UK to make ends meet. I’d do anything to be able to come home, to work and pay back into the system that paid for everything I took for granted, to reinvest in the next generation, but it’s just not possible.

    Maybe I’m naïve, but if a government in power got a good return on investment for the taxes we paid through R&D, maintaining the country’s infrastructure, all that good stuff, then we might see a more positive opinion for The UK across the board. But no, let’s moan about the family down the road for everything because they just so happen to be born somewhere else.

  47. Stop trying to turn us into America. I don’t want my kids to sing the pledge of allegiance every morning. They’re proven nutcases. GTFO.

  48. Step 1: make life in the UK truly shit for young people

    Step 2: vote in a party whose only policy is basically to keep that going.

    Step 3: beatings continue until morale improves

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