For context, the two middle lanes are joined by the outside lanes shortly before entering the tunnel, but these full/half lines remain for the entire length of the tunnel. There is no “voorsorteren” going on yet.
I’m always coming in on the right-hand side and often find myself driving faster than people in the second lane. Since they are not allowed to move over, am I legally allowed to overtake them on the right? I think I am but my wife thinks otherwise and google can’t give me a clear answer on this specific situation…
by Shmeers
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No, you can’t! I know this section and I know people are always driving on the wrong lane, but you cannot overtake on the right here! 😊
Edit: OP mentioned he is coming from the right lane, so he can indeed overtake on the right!
Purely traffic law based: no. But then there’s real life and people hogging those middle lanes 😅
I don’t think you’re allowed, those on the left are supposed to move to the right to give others the chance to overtake but,knowing our Belgian drivers,they’ll probably still be there 10 km further
Actually, It seams contraproductive but in fact you can, by passing the car from the left side, and then move back to your lane (over the full line)
https://preview.redd.it/nb1bphwf6qye1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b50153b39b999220f022b5421f4ecbf0ad3b6bed
Not allowed.
Your question/description is confusing
Are u talking about going to the roght and thus crossing the white line or going straight overtaking the left cars on the right
I’d say if there’s dense traffic and both lanes are used by a few cars, then it’s not illegally overtaking on the right if you just keep your speed and pass by. Similarly in a traffic jam the right lane won’t wait for the left lane to move along. At which point is the traffic dense enough to do that? I can’t tell you.
Yes, you may pass the car on your left side, if you stay in your lane
Depends on the car. With BMW you can overtake.
If you’re still waiting for an answer, don’t do it
EDIT Since I can’t seem to edit the original post.
I should have clarified that this picture is from streetview, and the scenario I’m talking about is that I am in the right-most lane, not the second lane as pictured…
Your question’s a bit confusing—are you saying you’re already driving in the far-right lane, or are you talking about crossing over a solid line to get there? I’m not 100% sure about the exact rules, but if I’m in the far-right lane already, driving the speed limit, and the car next to me is going slower, I’m not gonna slow down just to avoid passing them. That doesn’t make sense.
Your description is very unclear because you seem to be discribing a different scenario than shown on the image. You say the cars on the left are not allowed to move over. But the cars on the image can switch one lane if they can be bothered too.
If you’re coming from the Ring (coming from Antwerpen Oost/Noord) on the **right lane of the two middle lanes** (the third lane on the image), **you cannot overtake** the idiots who keep driving on the left (the second lane) even if the right lane (third lane) is free.
If you are coming from the **rightmost lane** (coming from Antwerpen West/Kennedy tunnel), **you can** overtake everyone (though within the speed limit please). This is exactly the reason why the new lines were drawn, since most trucks come from Antwerpen Noord/Oost and tried to switch to the rightmost lane as fast as possible, resulting in hindrance and accidents.
The new lines have made going through the the Craeybecxtunnel much better and easier in my opinion, but for some reason the different kinds of lines seem to confuse people.
Source: [https://www.verkeerscentrum.be/nieuws/volle-lijn-craeybeckxtunnel-maakt-komaf-met-dodehoekongevallen](https://www.verkeerscentrum.be/nieuws/volle-lijn-craeybeckxtunnel-maakt-komaf-met-dodehoekongevallen)
I know the fine for overtaking on the wrong side is now less than the fine of driving on the wrong side..so make the violation and point fingers if they catch you, at least make em pay aswel!
Why is this even a question?
It easy:
Onderbroken lijn aan je linkerkant, dan mag je van rijvak veranderen.
Volle lijn: mag je niet
Volle lijn en onderbroken lijn: de auto mag vanuit de onderbroken lijn oversteken en terug invoegen(en dus eventjes die halfvolle/volle lijn overschrijden. De wagen waar de Volle lijn aan zij kant is mag dat niet
I think ur question here is about the right lane (lane 1) in this 4 way lane? Lets say lane 1 is totaly on the right lane up to 4 to the left lane. So jn this picture is 4-3-2-1. The one coming from “antwerp zuid” joining the E19 to Brussels is lane 1 here.
You CAN overtake people from lane 2-3-4 in lane 1 IF you started from lane 1, so coming from antwerp zuid. Bcs they cannot move over from lane 2-3-4 to lane 1, bcs its a seperate lane. You can just drive at max speed (100km/u) and overtake slower cars from the right in lane 1. But when the white solid line is over (after the tunnel) you are not allowed to pass them on the right and you need to move over to the left.
BUT you CAN NOT move from lane 2 to 1 to pass them from the right because you cross a full with line. So if you come from Antwerp noord joining E19 to Brussels you come in lane 2-3. You can only overtake them like normal on the left.
Also when comming from Antwerp zuid and in lane 1 is someone slow, you need to move over to line 2 to obertake bht can not move back to lane 1.
Hope this is clear 😅
Depending on traffic density it will be allowed to overtake via right lane
Lol, the difference of opinion here explains everything I need to know about why belgian roads suck to drive on. I love living here but damn the roads are a shit show
If I’m not mistaken, you must always drive as right as possible. If you need to overtake, you must do it from the left hand side, in any scenario, when allowed.
If you don’t change lanes it’s not an overtaking manouver, which means your lane is just moving faster than the others.
Seems fairly obvious to me with the markings that you can’t exit the center lane to overtake someone slow in front of you, that’s why you have a solid line. Conversely, you are obviously permitted to cross into the center lane if you’re driving in the right lane because the line is dashed. This isn’t my county, but I don’t imagine these particular markings have a different meaning than where I live.
Solid line= you can’t switch to this lane however those already on the most right lane can move over to the left as they have the dotted lines.
For sure you can, since the second lane is not allowed to cross the full line it takes away the hazard of them “not expecting you there” anyway.
I always pass on the right here , the left lanes are not allowed to go to the right lane due to the full white line so i dont see why you would not be allowed to overtake on the right
No
The Belgian paradox.
You can’t overtake from the right, someone is tailgating you so you can’t brake to overtake safely and now you have two choices:
1. Break the law and overtake from the right. Everyone is happy except you if you got filmed/flashed
2. Match their speed since you cannot overtake and now create an artificial traffic jam, the guy behind you is honking for the next few hundred meters and everyone leave with more stress than if you had broken the damn law
Tldr: Fuck middle/left liners
You can pass on the right, you just can’t overtake.
No, but I do it. You should too.
I overtake on that right lane even though i’m not sure if it’s allowed. Speed limit is 100 and some decide to drive 80 or even slower on the second and third lane. I’m not gonna swerve around them.
To go to the 2nd lane: Match speed with left lane, blink, move slow and easy to the left without making those at the left lane braking hard. Solved.
To stay on the right lane, no one is allowed to enter your lane here. Keep driving your speed, even if you’re faster than second lane. It’s a separate lane so (forbidden) right take-over is not the case here. Keep in mind that others on the right lane might want to move gradually to the left. And some will force their way in, others on the 2nd lane will not allow it or rev to close the gap. So sudden brake checks are possible.
Look 2 or 3 cars in front of you, for all close lanes.
Typical Reddit comment section where everyone is over confidentially wrong.
The solid line means it’s considered a separate road in the traffic code. You also see them on ramps for example. Since they are considered a separate road, you **ARE ALLOWED** to overtake on the right. The amount of other traffic is irrelevant in this case.
FWIW: I take this road on a daily basis. I always use the full length of this road (by overtaking all the other traffic in the tunnel) instead of leaving this road empty and only causing more traffic on the other lanes in the tunnel.
On an on-ramp you go as far as you can before merging with traffic, if you pass other cars doing that it is not overtaking (nor undertaking).
So yes you can keep going on the right side, even if the cars on the left are going slower. Just make sure you still adapt your speed to the situation, there might be a reason traffic is slowing down.
The full line on the left disappears rather quickly so you can just overtake on the left. Afaik, you can drive past on the right if you were already in that lane but it’s still safer to go on the left.
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