Reposting because my previous post was removed for lack of context. In Italy, 2025: fascists escorted by police perform Nazi salutes to honor a fascist killed in the 1970s. Meanwhile, antifascists are identified by the police. Search “Ramelli 2025” on Google for context. Links in 1st comment.

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by TappetoImperiale

37 comments

  1. News article about 2.000 people joining this “event”:
    https://www.milanotoday.it/cronaca/corteo_sergio_ramelli_2025-.html

    Home owner removed fascists manifestos from his fence, was immediately identified by police and told to not touch them since they were there to make sure nobody removes them:
    https://www.repubblica.it/politica/2025/04/30/news/ramelli_caso_commemorazione_residente_via_paladini_manifesti_abusivi-424157420/amp/

    Few days prior, shop owners in another city were visited and identified twice in the same day by the police after they put a manifesto remembering the liberation of Italy from fascism in 1945:
    https://www.ansa.it/amp/sito/notizie/cronaca/2025/04/25/striscione-antifascista-in-panetteria-ad-ascoli-piceno-scattano-gli-accertamenti_e3b06bf6-ad62-4626-8a38-e047a271ae4e.html

  2. World going in funny directions… everyone hates Jews, being Nazi is more and more normal everyday, tensions and violence everywhere… good luck everyone

  3. In Germany, everyone would get detained. EDIT: at least still

  7. Voglio sbattere la testa contro il muro finché non mi sveglio dall’incubo o perdo ogni capacità cognitiva. Non è un mondo da vivere quello dove nemmeno un secolo dopo la guerra più sanguinosa dell’intera umanità tornano le ideologie del passato già sconfitte al comando. Che depressione che mi viene.

  8. My perspective as an Italian.

    We didn’t have a trial, we didn’t have a reckoning with our fascist history. Both for the sake of peace and out of fear of communism, the decision was made to sweep everything under the carpet and start again. The fact is that you can still be born a fascist in Italy. A large part of the population has never accepted the fall of fascist Italy and believes in a glorious past made possible by mussolini. The reality is very different, and anyone who has studied a bit knows that. But the problem is that in schools, and more generally in the media, fascism is glossed over. You see a lot of films in which Nazis are the bad guys, but films in which Fascists are the bad guys are much rarer. If a professor at school says something against fascism, then they say they are a communist spreading lies. Basically, no matter what evidence you can give, the fascist part of Italy sees it as a lie. They believe that fascist Italy was heaven on earth and that Italy was respected internationally when mussolini was in power, even though it is really far from the truth.

    In Italy today there is still a huge divide in the population. The civil war, which we didn’t resolve, has been passed on to the new generations. All the right-wing political parties reject every year the celebration of 25 April, the day on which we celebrate the end of nazifascism in Italy. “Bella Ciao”, a song associated with the resistance against fascism, is despised by right-wing parties and people.

    This is so sad in everyday life. To hear people I grew up with or I work with say nice things about fascism. To see that in mussolini’s hometown people still go to the pilmgrinage.

    It’s exhausting, to be honest. And the problem is that you can’t reason with these people: for them, fascism is like a religion, and they don’t believe in anything else than what they learned in their homes growing up.

  9. Yeah sure, let’s just let fascism rise everywhere in Europe. What’s the worst that could happen? (Nuclear war)

  11. That’s both disgusting and ungrateful. Those people would last like ten days under real fascism, yet for those kind of actions they should last decades in prison. In Italy it’s from years that people don’t feel secure at all nearby police

  16. Nazi groups should be illegal everywhere.

    Its kinda minblowing to see Nazi protests in the US being left alone, while pro Palestine protesters are arrested.

  17. It’s a problem and we know, the majority of Italians hate this situation. We should start doing what Germany is doing, like framing as extremism AfD and starting to act like we really care about our rights and our Constitution since they are in complete contrast with fascist and nazi ideologies. It’s time to act now or it’ll be bad, again.

  18. I’d wager if Ramelli was alive today, these same people would bully him because “he has long hair and looks like a girl”

  19. I’m Italian, the vast majority of us is sick of this shit too

  20. every year the same story, a bunch of nostalgics with their arms raised and a group of people who are scandalized, as much as fascist rats disgust me, we Italians have NEVER come to terms with our past. We need to realize that much of our culture has a fascist stamp, even in the little things of everyday life, it is no coincidence that it was invented in Italy. So instead of tearing our teeth out every time we see these fascists, let’s answer them on the points. the one in the photo is a commemoration, as incredible as it is, it is not a gathering of politicians who want to restore a fascist dictatorship (maybe only in their mind, they love to be free like us) so configuring it as an apology could be thorny. Personally I think we need to let them do it, the best response I saw was that of a disgusted resident who turned on the song “bella ciao” (absolute chad) while they were doing a minute of silence. two notes of a little song were enough to send them into delirium.

    It’s a battle that must be fought on a cultural and intimate-family level guys, I bet there are a lot of “racist uncles” of some of you in there.

    what I’m trying to tell you is that we really have to take the leap and come to terms with this stuff, guys this is the time to be cold and cynical like rocks in Antarctica if we want to get rid of this fascist culture once and for all, and as strange as it may sound to you if these exist it is also thanks to an opposition and a left inept and disconnected from reality. Not even the opposition has done anything to stop these groups of nostalgics so let’s not be surprised, let’s learn to fight these enemies with something that they hate, freedom of thought and expression, and the data and the science. like in school if you hit hard you see that those donkeys will understand, it will take years, decades and we will have to see many of them die of old age before we get rid of them. but that’s how it is, for me this is the way.

    I would also like to say one last thing, as much as Italian culture is steeped in fascism there was also an Italy that at the time resisted and fought for years, a culture that created partisans and citizens who loved freedom, precisely, anti-fascists. spoiler they were “few” at the time (enough to beat hard though). and in the second post-war period we still struggle to recognize that essentially we had to pull out a democracy from a country in which the citizens were mostly fascists.

  21. History doesn’t repeat — it rhymes 📜⚠️. This is disturbing and important to highlight. Appreciate the post 🙏

  22. Someone blasted Bella ciao from an apartment and they threw firecrackers at it

  23. Yeah. Italy has always been a bit of a shithole for low intelligence people

  29. Recently had a falling out with a very good Italian freind who moved back to North Italy a few years ago. He slowly started leaning more right wing since going home and during my last visit to see him he was in full facist mode complaining about foreigners, gays, Muslims. I decide to cut further contact with him as he continues to be radicalised.

  30. I will never understand why fascists of different countries will use the gestures of the german nationalistic movement. Or use hitler dogwhistles in countries taht have been conquered and ruined by hitler

  31. We seriously need to take of the gloves and stop thinking democracy can fight people that wants to misuse it.

    Ban on right wing fascist parties and breaking up groups with long prison sentences for high level members.

    We had a war about this. Right wing fascism is simply not part of a modern society

  32. This is the result of the economic crisis and the pandemic.
    SocioEconomy in decline
    Politicians reach for the ace in their sleeve “blame minorities / immigrants”
    Stupid people buy it and vote in anger

    Voila fascists.

    This happened in Greece for a span of 10 years after the crisis with the Golden Dawn party and we barely escaped from it’s jaws.

    Be very careful.

    These are indeed difficult times and we must endure.

  34. American here, just wanna say there were so many idiot Nazi apologists who said Musk’s salute couldn’t be a Nazi salute because he didn’t do every exact little thing that “makes it” specifically a Nazi salute. Clicking his heels and shit.

    This right here proves that shit doesn’t need to be present. These people are in a group, and a bunch aren’t “doing it correctly.” Anyone that does this sort of thing and has the values of Nazis, is a fucking Nazi.

  35. Good. Let them all go out into the public to show their faces. Makes it a lot more easy to identify them

  37. Italy is MAGA trojan horse for Europe and it should be discussed more

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