Hamas fatality figures for Gaza war are ‘clear disinformation,’ according to new study

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-fatality-figures-for-gaza-war-are-clear-disinformation-according-to-new-study/

Posted by NotSoSaneExile

12 comments

  1. Almost certainly. Hamas is a terrorist organization that has a lot to gain by inflating casualty numbers. If they cared about the Palestinian people they would have seen no military path to victory and instead surrendered a year ago.

  2. This paper doesn’t really prove anything, it just makes an argument for slightly lower numbers than what Hamas is reporting. It’s still an incredibly large number of children killed, and an even larger number starving and suffering. 

  3. “sky is blue according to new study”

    Why anyone would believe literal terrorists is beyond me.

  4. While this is to be expected, should we maybe not use the “timesofisrael” as a source for this topic?

  6. Surely the Times of Israel is an objective middleman on the issue and has no bias toward one side of the conflict

  7. Well the IDF does deliberately commit wartime atrocities. And then it covers them up for as long as possible and when the truth comes out they’ll like demote a guy and move on.

    Also “it’s not 70 percent innocent women and children, it’s only 50!” lol

  8. No one will actually know how many people are dead until the fighting ends and a count of how many people are still alive is done. Both sides are unreliable narrators. The Lancet had a study that the deaths were closer to 100,000 and could be closing in on 200,000 back in August of 2024 based off the way Israel was conducting the war and the situation on the ground.

  10. The framing of this result is abominable.

    The paper says Hamas is wrong (could be lying) about 70% of Gazan war deaths being women and children.

    Instead, the real statistic is “only” 51%. And in one exemplary case, it was down to “only” 34%.

    Those are not low numbers. Israel supporters have a completely broken morality, when they think this vindicates their war tactics.

    The difference between this result and genocide is just semantics. It shows an extreme disregard for civilian casualties.

    The fact that we have to set the bar so abysmally low in order to spin the results– we’re comparing Israeli killings to a hypothetical baseline where people are killed randomly– that should make anyone with an ounce of morality rethink their support.

    For a non-spin framing, the comparison should be other wars. How does the war in Gaza compare to the Syrian civil war? WWII? Vietnam? Based on these results, I think it’s a lot closer to Assad in Syria than any recent US war. These statistics do not make Israel’s war in Gaza look moral

  11. Study find a few less people killed in the genocide that posted.

    Maybe they accidentally counted duplicate deaths by double counting the limbs of children strewn about

  12. Notoriously unbiased on this subject publication The Times of Israel

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