‘Keeping Pledge to Hitler’: Lest we forget Moscow’s alliance with Nazis in starting WW2

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by A_Lazko

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  1. “Invading Ukraine in 2014, Moscow used the same fake excuse as for invading Poland in 1939” – read that article for more insights into Russia’s part in preparing for WW2.

  4. If Nazi Germany hadn’t invaded Russia, there wouldn’t have been a Soviet victory on May 9th, and they would have remained allies.

  5. Nobody has forgotten, the Soviet Onion and now the russian federation have erased 2 long years from the memory.

  7. It’s so good that today Germany sees that as the most shameful card in its history and is sincerelly dedicated to stop Russian nazism, hand in hand with Ukraine, Poland and the rest of the Europe.

  8. Not only that, but recall that after Stalin threatened the Baltic States into compliance and the Finns refused to listen to his provocation, Stalin conducted a false flag attack at Mainila in order to justify the invasion of Finland (the Winter War). Considering that Putin uses Stalin’s exact playbook, it’s worth noting as Russian military continues to mass on the border of the Baltic States yet again.

  9. Exactly! It’s surprising how many people don’t know this

  10. Conveniently Russians only remember and honour the 1941-1945 part of the war. I Wonder why….

  13. Germany: Nazis from 1933 to 1945 (learned from history)

    Russia: Nazis for centuries (never learned from history… still killing innocent people)

  14. Don’t forget the British and French peace treaties before this

  16. Wonder if this that aspect of the war is mentioned in the classrooms of Russia

  17. *After several attempts to get Britain and France to work with them to stop the 3rd Reich in previous years

  19. Let’s not forget FDR promised Poland to Stalin and Truman back out of the agreement. Between that and the atomic bombs we dropped, it spurred the cold war.

  20. Not surprising, they were both totalitarian dictatorships that wanted to take other countries.
    Also not surprising that Hitler attacked Russia. They hated each other.

  21. I met a Russian woman who completely believed this was not a historical fact. It was crazy.

  24. Tankies once again trying to equate appeasing non-aggression to full blown collaboration and territory splitting.

  25. And it was one of hitlers biggest mistakes to invade Russia. It went full circle really.

  26. The loudest anti-Nazis are themselves nazis. For those unaware – one of ruzzian stated objectives for going into Ukraine was to suppress nazism.

  27. We remember the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and how it would come to cause 6 Million Polish lives (1/5 of the population of Poland at the time) to be lost at the hands of either regime. I thank the Institute Of National Remembrance in Poland for doing extensive research into this great tragedy to bring closure and answers to families who have lost a loved one during this time period.

  28. And yet the UK and France only declared war on Germany even though the Soviets did the same thing

  30. i think stalin thanked hitler in hell for being worse than him otherwise stalin would definitely be a runner up for the public opinion that is now devoted to hitler

  32. Not all evil was defeated in WW2. Soviets sadly were allowed to spread their evil in the world to this day.

  33. The USSR originally wanted to enter a defensive pact with wester nations *against* Nazi Germany ([https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html)) but western leaders hoped to use Hitler as a bulwark against Soviet expansion and so ceded many territories to Germany which emboldened Germany and lead to the war.

    Seeing the writing on the wall the Soviet Union made the difficult decision to do what it felt it needed to do to survive the coming conflict. At the time of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact’s signing (August 1939), the Soviet Union was facing significant military pressure from the West, particularly from Britain and France, which were seeking to isolate the Soviet Union and undermine its influence in Europe. The Soviet Union saw the Pact as a way to counterbalance this pressure and to gain more time to build up its military strength and prepare for the inevitable conflict with Nazi Germany, which began less than two years later in June 1941 (Operation Barbarossa).

    The western narrative which highlights the Soviets forming an agreement with the Nazi government completely ignores the concrete historical realities faced by the USSR and the refusal of western powers to cooperate with Soviet diplomats and defend against the threat of fascism.

    [https://politsturm.com/truth-about-molotov-ribbentrop-pact/](https://politsturm.com/truth-about-molotov-ribbentrop-pact/)

    [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html)

    [https://www.jstor.org/stable/152863](https://www.jstor.org/stable/152863)

    [https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781566637855/1939-The-Alliance-That-Never-Was-and-the-Coming-of-World-War-II](https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781566637855/1939-The-Alliance-That-Never-Was-and-the-Coming-of-World-War-II)

    Also, lets not forget all of the deals that England and other western Europe nations did with Germany that were far more substantial like the Munich Agreement.

  35. Every ally they had always seemed surprised when the Nazis turned on them. I don’t know why any nation would ever think a country that invades Poland and commits war crimes (dressing up in polish military uniforms near the border) would be trustworthy for even a second. Russia saw power growing and they didn’t want to be left in the sidelines, it didn’t matter how that power was growing

    Something else that we shouldn’t ever forget is how the United States was prepared to sit by and watch until Pearl Harbor. The crimes against humanity by the Nazis weren’t enough to get the United States government and military involved with the allies

  38. The ussr is responsible for a majority of the efforts in defeating Germany in WW2. Ops framing on this is a fucking joke.

    When it comes to the USSR and Germany’s relationship between world war 1 and 2, people need to remember that this was a time to attempt non aggression between two massive wars where Russia and Germany were the main combatants, especially with the United States remaining neutral for so long during WW2.

    I suppose all of the people hyping this up as though communists are Nazis too are likely the same people to deny the Nazi shit that the United States has done and continues to do.

    The oppression and invasions of foreign countries for profit, aiding in mass extermination committing unjust acts of deportation. Forcing migrants and dissidents into concentration camps. Utilizing race and religion as a weapon against non white, non Christian citizens of the US and other nations. The lost goes on and on.

    I wonder if the US will be seen as complicit in Israel’s abhorrent behavior when we look back and recognize that they are assisting in the invasion and destruction of everything around them.

  39. We haven’t forgotten that, but for some reason folks in Moscow prefer to pretend they have.

  40. Yes?…

    Basically everyone with at least an 8th grade understanding of WW2 knows about the Molotov Ribbentrop pact.

    Just because you’re ignorant of history doesn’t mean everyone else is too.

  42. I don’t think anyone will ever forget given how often this sub posts about it.

  43. Not a sympathizer of modern russia by any means, but one has to admit that russia contributed most to defeating the nazis so this feels pretty disingenuous 

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