Having seen the flagrant breach of the rules by e-scooter users, I’m surprised there aren’t more serious injuries or deaths. Regularly, I have seen an adult and child passanger on one.
They are lethal because they constantly switch between the footpath and the road.
Coming up to a roundabout yesterday I was slowing because there was a traffic jam on it, an scooter came from the right lane, cut across me and mounted the footpath, now luckily I was already stopping but it’s not the first time I’ve seen them arbitrarily hope from the road to the footpath and vice versa.
They were nabbed outside a guarda station just down the road so there was some karma, hopefully there is more enforcement around them.
I feel bad for any young person doing their driving test in a town between 8.30 and 9am or 3pm and 5pm as the roads are thick with eejits on escooters with no spatial awareness.
So less than 25pc have been in crashes. Headline is somewhat sensationalist.
By and large cars are still the most dangerous machines on the roads by miles.
All this shouting about e scooters is gas, yes some users are irresponsible and that needs addressing but this is the same bs that cyclists have to put up with when in fact it’s car drivers regularly killing/injuries people.
Yeah and everyone has fallen off a bike too.
If one reads the article it doesn’t even pretend to suggest the collisions are the fault of the scooterist.
It also talks about a study reporting near misses, which is likely difficult data to get an accurate handle on.
The RSA wants you in cars. It wants you to dislike other modes of transport. Don’t feed the trolls.
Cyclists, scooterists, bus wankers, walkers, they just want to get where they are going; and their chosen mode of transport meets their use requirements and finances best. If there is an enemy it’s the perception you have built for yourself that you are late and that there is no value in the journey; only the destination.
Slow down; share the space, let someone out if it’s safe and convenient to do so.
I think scooters are fundamentally more dangerous than bicycles due to their small wheels and long stopping distances, but IMO we should simply educate people and let them make their own judgements.
Or for example dressing fully in black, no lights or reflectors and travelling on the main road at night. Colour me shocked.
What constitutes a crash? I don’t know a cyclist whom hasn’t had a “crash” as an example.
We live in a world where you can’t invent anything new. If we invented a trampoline, a ladder or roller skates today. They would be banned. So would playgrounds and swimming pools. So would bicycles, so would cars. . But these things were all introduced by braver generations.
Escooters are not more dangerous than bikes or ebikes. Definitely not more dangerous than cars. But guess who’s driving the narrative, the lobby that want us to pay for insurance for escooters and ebikes. They see a new market and are driving fear around them.
And remember, rules and regulations only apply to people who already follow rules. The anecdotal mad lad on the footpath, will be there regardless of the rules.
We need pedestrians and would be bikers to learn about the rules of the road and how to anticipate traffic. Enforcement of all cycling / scooter violations that include cyclists breaking red lights.
And at least 50% of those crashes caused onlookers to LOL.
the rsa just want to turn us into a tiny america with how much they hate anything but cars
Get these e-scooters and e-bikes off the footpaths. Footpaths are for pedestrians, young and old, mothers with prams and wheel chairs, not the illegal use of these e-motor vehicles.
Theory test and flat rate insurance is needed for this sort of thing.
Then open up the speed limits so people can use electric mopeds and ebikes as proper commuting vehicles.
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Perhaps it tells something about users…
Having seen the flagrant breach of the rules by e-scooter users, I’m surprised there aren’t more serious injuries or deaths. Regularly, I have seen an adult and child passanger on one.
They are lethal because they constantly switch between the footpath and the road.
Coming up to a roundabout yesterday I was slowing because there was a traffic jam on it, an scooter came from the right lane, cut across me and mounted the footpath, now luckily I was already stopping but it’s not the first time I’ve seen them arbitrarily hope from the road to the footpath and vice versa.
They were nabbed outside a guarda station just down the road so there was some karma, hopefully there is more enforcement around them.
I feel bad for any young person doing their driving test in a town between 8.30 and 9am or 3pm and 5pm as the roads are thick with eejits on escooters with no spatial awareness.
So less than 25pc have been in crashes. Headline is somewhat sensationalist.
Here are the RSA stats
https://preview.redd.it/m75e92pbvwze1.jpeg?width=990&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c0038f781fd09ba9f0c479c0199e752775fd4f6
By and large cars are still the most dangerous machines on the roads by miles.
All this shouting about e scooters is gas, yes some users are irresponsible and that needs addressing but this is the same bs that cyclists have to put up with when in fact it’s car drivers regularly killing/injuries people.
Yeah and everyone has fallen off a bike too.
If one reads the article it doesn’t even pretend to suggest the collisions are the fault of the scooterist.
It also talks about a study reporting near misses, which is likely difficult data to get an accurate handle on.
The RSA wants you in cars. It wants you to dislike other modes of transport. Don’t feed the trolls.
Cyclists, scooterists, bus wankers, walkers, they just want to get where they are going; and their chosen mode of transport meets their use requirements and finances best. If there is an enemy it’s the perception you have built for yourself that you are late and that there is no value in the journey; only the destination.
Slow down; share the space, let someone out if it’s safe and convenient to do so.
I think scooters are fundamentally more dangerous than bicycles due to their small wheels and long stopping distances, but IMO we should simply educate people and let them make their own judgements.
Or for example dressing fully in black, no lights or reflectors and travelling on the main road at night. Colour me shocked.
What constitutes a crash? I don’t know a cyclist whom hasn’t had a “crash” as an example.
We live in a world where you can’t invent anything new. If we invented a trampoline, a ladder or roller skates today. They would be banned. So would playgrounds and swimming pools. So would bicycles, so would cars. . But these things were all introduced by braver generations.
Escooters are not more dangerous than bikes or ebikes. Definitely not more dangerous than cars. But guess who’s driving the narrative, the lobby that want us to pay for insurance for escooters and ebikes. They see a new market and are driving fear around them.
And remember, rules and regulations only apply to people who already follow rules. The anecdotal mad lad on the footpath, will be there regardless of the rules.
We need pedestrians and would be bikers to learn about the rules of the road and how to anticipate traffic. Enforcement of all cycling / scooter violations that include cyclists breaking red lights.
And at least 50% of those crashes caused onlookers to LOL.
the rsa just want to turn us into a tiny america with how much they hate anything but cars
Get these e-scooters and e-bikes off the footpaths. Footpaths are for pedestrians, young and old, mothers with prams and wheel chairs, not the illegal use of these e-motor vehicles.
Theory test and flat rate insurance is needed for this sort of thing.
Then open up the speed limits so people can use electric mopeds and ebikes as proper commuting vehicles.
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