That’s what you get when u design a building to look like a fanny
There’s got to be a serious level of incompetence and/or corruption that every single major government funded construction project ends up like this. What the hell is the Auditor General or Public Accounts Committee up to that they never conduct a serious investigation and hold people accountable.
Need to learn some serious lessons from this debacle
Good job lads high score!
I do find it ever so funny on many levels, that people will call out common people on their bullshit and rightfully so but this is allowed to continue, unabated.
😉🤣👀
Tendering is used to loot public funds, and must be ended – replaced with direct state building for all major projects.
To be fair the amount they originally were talking was ludicrously low. I could have told you straight away it would at least 5X
Campaigners, including some prominent medical figures, argued it would have a Catholic ethos because of the legacy of religious control of St Vincent’s, which was founded by an order of Catholic nuns.
They contended that this could prevent certain treatments – legal in Ireland but not permitted under church rules – from being made available. But the government, other staff at Holles Street and authorities at St Vincent’s rejected these suggestions.
Are they for real???!!!
So let me get this right – they are referencing a cost estimate from 2013 but the project hasn’t even been awarded yet?
Obviously raises a lot of questions about the initial high-level estimate given the huge magnitude it’s gone up by, but it’s not exactly a cost overrun vs. a solid project costing. And it’s still not even awarded.
Not sure I follow all the complaints about tendering here given it hasn’t been awarded yet.
That Scarface meme were Pacino is laughing into a phone springs to mind
It’s increased from an initial “indicative cost” of €150m in 2013. They hadn’t even costed it at that point, or chosen a site, or got quotes : they just mentioned a possible number.
Now it’s 12 years later and they’re talking *actual* project costs, including construction of the building and transferring everything from the old buildings.
Heads gonna roll, I bet. Maybe not, but there will be an inquiry, to find and punish those responsible. Maybe not, but a shitload of legal professionals get filthy rich. Love this country.
Only 10 times? Oh the naivety. Have they not met BAM?
…and its nobody’s fault and there are no consequences for anyone, except the sick people of course.
Oh, and I bet when the nurses and doctors, soon(?) to be working there complain about anything, there will be no money to fix the problem, mark my words……
We spent €1.4bn on housing for asylum seekers in the first 9 months of 2024.
€2bn for a National Maternity Hospital doesn’t seem so bad in that context.
Ireland’s spiral to “failed state” status continues.
We could spin this into a positive: Ireland, the only place in the world building designer hospitals. Market it like that to the middle eastern oil barons and we’ll be raking it in while we build prefabs in Dubai 😅
This is shocking clickbait jOUrNalISm unworthy of a Murdoch rag let alone the so called paper of record. No wonder trust in media is so low.
Bring this back to everyday life. Imagine getting a painter in to do the house. Quotes €10k for the whole house. Grand sounds good. Fast forward to when he comes to do the job and it’s suddenly €100k. What would your response to him be??
What an appalling sub-editor and another dreadful example of Murdoch level jOUrnAliSM from our so called paper of record. Cue a bunch of people who think a place holder from 2013 would apply in 2025. Remember in 2013 we were being run by the IMF, 50k net people were leaving, the same folk on here criticising the government were on boards claiming half of Dublin would need to be knocked and “could the last person out turn off the lights”. This sort of carry on is going to make it impossible for the government to cost anything.
>“The tenders are higher than expected,” a senior individual with direct involvement in the project said.
Either they’ve already made their mind up on what company will get the contract regardless of tendering, which would be corrupt, or they are aware that all the contractors are ripping them off and they’re happy to go along with it.
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That’s what you get when u design a building to look like a fanny
There’s got to be a serious level of incompetence and/or corruption that every single major government funded construction project ends up like this. What the hell is the Auditor General or Public Accounts Committee up to that they never conduct a serious investigation and hold people accountable.
Need to learn some serious lessons from this debacle
Good job lads high score!
I do find it ever so funny on many levels, that people will call out common people on their bullshit and rightfully so but this is allowed to continue, unabated.
😉🤣👀
Tendering is used to loot public funds, and must be ended – replaced with direct state building for all major projects.
To be fair the amount they originally were talking was ludicrously low. I could have told you straight away it would at least 5X
Campaigners, including some prominent medical figures, argued it would have a Catholic ethos because of the legacy of religious control of St Vincent’s, which was founded by an order of Catholic nuns.
They contended that this could prevent certain treatments – legal in Ireland but not permitted under church rules – from being made available. But the government, other staff at Holles Street and authorities at St Vincent’s rejected these suggestions.
Are they for real???!!!
So let me get this right – they are referencing a cost estimate from 2013 but the project hasn’t even been awarded yet?
Obviously raises a lot of questions about the initial high-level estimate given the huge magnitude it’s gone up by, but it’s not exactly a cost overrun vs. a solid project costing. And it’s still not even awarded.
Not sure I follow all the complaints about tendering here given it hasn’t been awarded yet.
That Scarface meme were Pacino is laughing into a phone springs to mind
It’s increased from an initial “indicative cost” of €150m in 2013. They hadn’t even costed it at that point, or chosen a site, or got quotes : they just mentioned a possible number.
Now it’s 12 years later and they’re talking *actual* project costs, including construction of the building and transferring everything from the old buildings.
Heads gonna roll, I bet. Maybe not, but there will be an inquiry, to find and punish those responsible. Maybe not, but a shitload of legal professionals get filthy rich. Love this country.
Only 10 times? Oh the naivety. Have they not met BAM?
…and its nobody’s fault and there are no consequences for anyone, except the sick people of course.
Oh, and I bet when the nurses and doctors, soon(?) to be working there complain about anything, there will be no money to fix the problem, mark my words……
We spent €1.4bn on housing for asylum seekers in the first 9 months of 2024.
€2bn for a National Maternity Hospital doesn’t seem so bad in that context.
Ireland’s spiral to “failed state” status continues.
We could spin this into a positive: Ireland, the only place in the world building designer hospitals. Market it like that to the middle eastern oil barons and we’ll be raking it in while we build prefabs in Dubai 😅
This is shocking clickbait jOUrNalISm unworthy of a Murdoch rag let alone the so called paper of record. No wonder trust in media is so low.
Bring this back to everyday life. Imagine getting a painter in to do the house. Quotes €10k for the whole house. Grand sounds good. Fast forward to when he comes to do the job and it’s suddenly €100k. What would your response to him be??
What an appalling sub-editor and another dreadful example of Murdoch level jOUrnAliSM from our so called paper of record. Cue a bunch of people who think a place holder from 2013 would apply in 2025. Remember in 2013 we were being run by the IMF, 50k net people were leaving, the same folk on here criticising the government were on boards claiming half of Dublin would need to be knocked and “could the last person out turn off the lights”. This sort of carry on is going to make it impossible for the government to cost anything.
>“The tenders are higher than expected,” a senior individual with direct involvement in the project said.
Either they’ve already made their mind up on what company will get the contract regardless of tendering, which would be corrupt, or they are aware that all the contractors are ripping them off and they’re happy to go along with it.
Par for the course
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