by Ice5891

5 comments
  1. I think she took the happiest country on earth ranking too much seriously. That too during winter.

  2. People of the world (other than finns) need to understand that happiness in Finland is that people are content with their suffering.

  3. I haven’t listened to the podcast, but I read the article in the New York Times last week. Assuming the content of the podcast is 1 to 1, I didn’t find it to be a negative in tone. Rather it reflected that the perception of happiness can vary. I quote:

    >The “happiest country in the world” label seems to imprint on the American mind as a never-ending carousel of delights, but in Finland’s February chill, the reality is more modest.

    I found it quite a nice (even beautiful) read and I think most of the writer’s misery came from the small things that make Finland a happy place and which she will not have in the US.

    >Children in stocking feet rolled down a sloping spruce floor as though it were a grassy hill. (Pause to contemplate the farfetchedness of a public library in a major U.S. city that is clean enough for floor-rolling.) Watching them frolic beneath a wavy egg of ceiling I became, once again, very sad. Here was a vision of human flourishing that was simultaneously simple and inconceivable. As a kid in San Francisco, I remember walking into a public library and overhearing a man crack the following joke: “For a homeless shelter, this place sure has a lot of books.”

    >It would be a mistake not to mention that Oodi performed a shelter function, too. There were people with an unusual volume of possessions using the space as a temperature-controlled sleeping enclosure. It was allowed. The sleepers weren’t confined to any particular section; they were neither avoided nor harassed. If that was a Finn’s idea of the floor, 0 on the Cantril, or close to it, how much did it matter that the ceiling was also, along certain axes, rather low? Did any of these tall thick-haired Finnish people look around their library and think, What my country lacks is Jeff Bezos or the delusion of the opportunity to become him? Perhaps the absence of that thought alone moves you one step up the ladder.

    >On and on I complained to my friend on the phone, wretched about the idea that my daughter would never eat vegetables alone in a library or paint northern lights on a fairy-tale wall beneath an indoor tree.

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    >The next day I departed the most life-satisfied country on earth in a Finnair plane that hiccuped queasily until it reached cruising altitude. What awaited me back in New York? First there would be the airport taxi line, a reliable case study in misanthropy. Then a slow journey home on potholed expressways to an apartment with holes in the floor. Medical bills. Day care bills. On the other hand, large coffee cups.

    Full article here, might be paywalled: [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/magazine/finland-happiest-country.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/magazine/finland-happiest-country.html)

  4. Thanks OP, it was an interesting podcast and I recommend people listen to it. A hint, it’s not what you think and headline for sure is misleading.

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