War refugees complain of abuse in Poland

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clygv2dj78zo

Posted by CourtofTalons

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  1. There’s definitely anti Ukrainian sentiment growing. Few years back I was helping refugees from Ukraine and donating to the Ukrainian cause. Today I have enough of people from Ukraine speaking Russian or glorifying Bandera and enough of Zelensky with his soviet style anti Polish politics. Frankly, I couldn’t care less now is it going to be Ukraine or more of Russia neighbouring Poland in few years. Both of them I perceive as hostile to Poland.

    You might guess that I’m not pro Ukrainian myself anymore. I’m far from calling for abuse, but I am supporting political party that will not bend of over backwards to Ukrainians.

  2. Poland is very xenophobic, isn’t that different from Ukraine or Russia in that regard ironically. Like imagine being racist against your closest neighbour, mf you two are practically the same lmaooo

  3. The right wing in Poland got exactly what they screamed for years they wanted, culturally similar immigrants of the same ethnicity and religion. And yet they still feel the need to hate on them, come up with ridiculous conspiracy theories (apparently we are being ethnically replaced by the powers that be and “Ukrainized” and Ukrainians are purposely sent here so Jews can move into Ukraine – yes, that’s what supporters of Grzegorz Braun and in part Sławomir Mentzen actually believe), spread fake news and cherry pick crimes. They have an entire media empire, who sensationalizes and blows out of proportion everything bad any Ukrainian (or any different foreigner) does so no surprises they are as succesful as they are. So we have people absolutely convinced Ukrainians, Georgians, Turks and Asians are running wild on our streets. Meanwhile, for the record, foreigners commit ca. 5% of crime in Poland – that’s not me, that’s official government data.

    But i guess I shouldn’t be surprised this is allowed to happen, the current government itself loves flirting with xenophobia and fearmongering.

    Just an anegdote, but as part of the current presidential candidate’s campaign, the ruling party generated outrage about Georgian gangs supposedly massively taking over streets of our cities and threatening and blackmailing business owners. For a few weeks Tusk and Trzaskowski were running from one news outlet to another and bragged how busy the government was fighting crime and how many criminal foreigners they deported. If you watched any of the major (government affiliated) news network at that time, you’d think Prague (a district in Warsaw, not the city) in particular suddenly became a crime ridden hell hole (the right wing media of course repeated everything with glee cause it was basically free advertising for the candidates they promoted). They stopped when they realized they are only boosting the far right candidates and Trzaskowski himself is quickly dropping in the polls (it turned out claiming parts of the capital city have been practically taken over by gangs while your presidential candidate was the mayor there wasn’t the 1000IQ move they thought it was). And as quickly as it started, this topic has been completely silenced on pro-gov media, but really shows how slimy they are.

    Don’t be surprised to see Tusk or Trzaskowski taking anti ukrainian side the moment polls show them it could be slightly beneficial to them.

  4. As Polish person this was to be expected. We are ethnically monoethnic state where pre war poles accounted for like 97% of pop and 2,5% would be prob other slavs.

    Sudden influx of Ukrainians was possible thanks towar shock but after it going down the feelings appeared. And media loves to highlight that it was Ukrainian person who did crime. My parents have like 10 different phrases to insult Ukrainians and though they are often xenophobic some deeply touch sensitive issues between our countries.

    Also Russian propaganda works so hard to make Poles hate Ukrainians that their pcs in Siberia glow blue from the heat they make – and it begins to work as more and more political figures promise to veto Ukraine in EU and NATO unless ukrainians knee down and give up many things

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