C-SPAN's description-in-advance of today's oral argument is: "The Supreme Court hears argument in Trump v. CASA, Trump v. Washington, and Trump v. New Jersey, a case about judges stopping President Trump's executive order that limits birthright citizenship for children born to undocumented parents." Per AP, "In arguments Thursday, the Supreme Court weighs the Trump administration’s request to narrow those court orders so that they cover only the parties that sued in federal court. Affected children born in Kentucky would not be citizens, if the court sides with the administration.".

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Discussion Thread: US Supreme Court Hears Oral Argument on Whether to Allow Nationwide Injunctions from Lower Courts in Case on Executive Order Seeking to End Birthright Citizenship
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  4. An illegitimate supreme court listens to a case filed by an illegitimate president intending to make their decision based on a piece of paper written by slave owners 250 years ago – except they’ve already repeatedly twisted that paper worse than a slinky so who the fuck knows what they’ll actually do.

    America in 2025, ladies and gentlemen.

  5. I wonder if any of the Conservatives will bring up the merits of the case.

  6. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the substance of this isn’t directly about birthright citizenship, but rather about whether judges can impose nationwide injunctions on any subject. I’m not saying there won’t be downstream effects, just that this isn’t directly ruling on the constitutionality of birthright citizenship.

  7. Hey everyone!

    1) We’re 15 minutes away from the start of oral argument and

    2) the discussion thread post has just been updated to include another half dozen live update links for those unable to listen in live.

  9. If SCOTUS is more than 15 minutes late to oral argument we’re legally allowed to go home.

  10. My great-great-grandparents came from overseas to start a life in the USA because they were escaping a bad situation in their original country. They popped out 13 kids here, a big Catholic, not Protestant, family. 

    Nobody tells me I shouldn’t be here as their descendant even after knowing my family history. I’ll give you one guess as to the color of my skin. 

  11. Sotomayer is absolutely spit-roasting this fascist lawyer’s legal argument.

  14. i have a question, are they getting rid of birthright citizenship retroactively??

  15. You guys weren’t kidding about his voice.

    Also, Barrett sounds kind of pissed, but perhaps I’m just being overly optimistic.

  16. You know their argument is bad when justice barrett is coming to Kagans defense with a tone of voice that screams “are you fucking kidding me?”

  17. Not sure I’m understanding that last exchange but essentially was it-

    Roberts: “If the court asks you to act expeditiously, will you do it?”

    Sauer: “Yes if you rule in our favor we pwomise we will!!”

    Just like they’re moving expeditiously to abide by recent scotus rulings right?

  18. Alito asking what’s the point kinda seals the loss. If he can’t get behind it, you don’t have the votes

  19. Lol, she’s pointing out that if injunctions weren’t allowed then class actions wouldn’t be legal at all.

  20. This guy is such an open fascist, jesus. This argument about the 14th being purely about slaves falls flat on its face and has been ruled about in the past multiple times.

  21. This solicitor general is pissing me off *unforgivable voice*

  22. It really feels like this snake of a lawyer is basically trying to gish-gallop the court. He waffles back and forth over and over on things and tries to hide behind “Well I covered that before” or “No we really meant ‘X'”.

  24. “If I were in your shoes, there’s no way I’d take this case to the courts.”

    Absolutely scathing.

  25. Former solicitor general Kagan is devouring this punk.

  26. *Kagan, sharply:

    >This is not a hypothetical, this is happening out there!

  27. Since this is audio only, I am assuming, based on the Solicitor General’s voice and Trump’s continued appointment of people to multiple roles, that this is RFK Jr. making this asinine case.

  28. It’s crazy that two votes for revoking birthright citizenship are baked in right from the start.

  30. Yo this can’t be a real human being ! lol. why he is talking faster than Ben Shapiro!??!

  31. Uh, shouldn’t this require an amendment anyway? There are supposed to be barriers on “executive orders” and this would be an insanely big executive order.

  32. The Swampreme Court is a whipped dog. Those six are guilty of legal and constitutional malpractice and have been perfectly content letting the shit demon from Dogma run roughshod over the average citizen of Dumb Erica until it started to threaten judges which completely reveals their corruption and imbecilic incompetence.

    They’re terrified now so they will let it continue to do what it wants and let the con servative mission to FLDS-ize the nation continue.

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