Replacing US military support in Europe would cost $1T

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1. how much will it cost to keep it?

2. Submission Statement: Europe can not replace American military capability on the continent for a minimum of 25 years. It is estimated to cost 1 trillion USD in air force and naval expansion. This does not include building independent intelligence systems, command and control systems, or space infrastructure like GPS, and this is for the minimum European defensive needs, not an expeditionary force

3. this report dramatically underestimates the cost.

   The assessment does not include other glaring gaps, the cost of which is harder to quantify. These include command and control, coordination, space, intelligence and surveillance, as well as the cost of nuclear weapons.

4. IMO: This 25-year period of vulnerability coincides with European Demographic Turnover. reaching Stage 5 of the demographic transition model and seeing shrinking tax revenue and population size at the same time. making achieving this in 25 years, an optimistic estimate.

   Fundamentally, Europe can not defend itself until 2050 at the earliest. meaning that preserving the American alliance for at least that long is essential

5. Another way of looking at this: 1T would be injected into the EU economy.

6. Very low cost for what it achieves. Especially since that isn’t money just being handed over to a stranger. It’s money that gets injected all across Europe and is a huge stimulus for the entire continent with multiplier effects in the economy.

   How wonderful of it to be so clearly quantified for everyone. Where do we sign? Let’s start!

7. Replacing US military support in Europe would bring in 1T in investments

   FTFY

8. How much would it cost the US?

   * The US would lose economic and political influence;
   * The US would be become technologically isolated . Europe would advance its own technology independent of the US.
   * The US would lose a lot of arms sales,.

9. How much american tax payer money goes to protect Europe?

   Imagine it going to the US citizens instead of subsidising european social assistance.

10. 1 trillion divided by Europe’s population ≈ 1,351 euros per person. In a year its a bit over 100€/month per person

11. Perun did a video not too long ago that’s more comprehensive then this article

12. The general finance advice of “If you want to buy something, make sure you have enough money to buy two of it” would apply here as well.

    Not counting the cost overruns, planning, execution, logistics, creating new workflows, processes, standards, etc, this is something that Europe needs to seriously plan for, especially in the technology space, to ensure that Americans are not going to be able to blackmail them with security guarantees any further.

13. I think it’s great that Europe is at least exploring their options, but want to know what’s cheaper? Hitting or exceeding your 3% defense spending goal. Way easier than $1T and 25 years.

14. Seems totally doable. Honestly, it’s just silly Europe doesn’t already have these abilities, considering how cheap it is.

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