Keir Starmer’s Reform-Lite Strategy Has Left Him Marooned on an Island of Strangers. New polling finds a collapse in support for the Prime Minister among Labour voters, as he pursues a strategy that is also failing to win over supporters of Reform

by bottish

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  1. I hope the “The best antidote to the SNP is a Labour government” folk are having an awful time rn xx

  2. To me Starmer seems like he has always been in the pocket of his financiers.

    He wouldn’t reveal them and he repeats a lot of their catch phrases.

    I think he surrounded himself with yes men at a time where we needed to challenge ourselves. So we have a milquetoast PM still blindly following the US and Israel. Which is the exact opposite of what 21st Century Britain needs.

    The worst thing of all this is:

    Labour are *still* better than conservatives or reform.

    We went from ruling the world to being unable to rule ourselves hahaha.

  3. Doubt this is a big surprise to anyone.

    It’s a real shame to see Labour being what the Tory party were 10/15 years ago.

    The whole of UK politics has moved so far to the right, that Labour are where the Tory party were sitting 10 odd years ago & instead of trying to move us back (even back to what used to be the centre would be an improvement!) Labour just keeps trying to woo an audience that are already well catered for by Tories/Reform.

    Plus it’s scare politics instead of well thought out intelligent solution based politics, which just makes it a race to the bottom. 😞

  4. Whichever way you slice it this is a little strange. He ran on cutting back immigration, its what won him so many Tory votes.

    I dunno theres anything he can do to win the country over at this point

  5. It may surprise the Labour echo-chamber, but Labour supporters also think immigration is a joke and needs to be dealt with. Too much immigration – legal and illegal, is problematic for working class communities.

    The problem with Starmer and the Labour leadership, is that they spent years frustrating the Tories in dealing with immigration, and now find themselves implementing things they initially resisted.

  6. I am genuinely convinced he’s doing this on purpose

  7. I am genuinely convinced he’s doing this on purpose

  8. Starmer is a windsock: limp, flimsy, and wafted around by the slightest breeze. I think voters want a PM that at least constitutes a vertebrate, and I’m sure his leadership will cost the labour party for years to come. If they’re happy to go along with whatever prevailing fart is guiding starmer this week they probably deserve it

  9. Surprise to absolutely no one, including all the Scots who were rapid about getting him elected in 2024 (they only cared about the SNP getting hurt because they’d radicalised themselves on Twitter).

  10. He saw Harris lose the US election by trying too hard to appeal to people who were never going to vote for her in a million years and thought hey, she might be on to something there…

  11. This is because he is incompetent. He became PM simply because people were sick of the Tories. He has no vision, no strategy to reach any vision, and no ability to communicate. He governs only according to fear – fear of polls, fear of the outcome of local elections, fear of the newspapers arriving in the morning.

  12. ~~r/officialkeirstarmerfanclub~~ r/ukpolitics in shambles

  13. That’s essentially a problem if your party and voterbase is mostly made up of middle class graduate proffesiona/public sector workers. The white working class have mostly abandoned Labour. He can’t appeal to everyone, some voters will always get alienated.

  14. Reform voters are way too lost in their YouTube, Tik tok, GB news, X, Meta algorithms to vote for Keir Starmer. He is applying what he said he’d do in the manifesto, so it should be no surprise, but it is also no surprise that people didn’t read it and are now jerked by the media, of which many are very comfortable with rich oligarchs….who’d have thought.

  15. “If you try and please everyone you’ll please no one”

    Tale as old as time. If politicians actually had conviction rather than convictions maybe we’d see something positive. Managers not leaders.

  16. Liberals once again failing by trying to appease the right rather than actually standing for anything and offering any sort of counter-narrative

  17. What Starmer is offering is what people want. It’s not what Reddit wants, but Reddit is deeply unrepresentative skewed perspective.

    You can’t lead a country while steadfastly refusing to address the demands of the population, even if you think those demands are misguided and moronic.

  18. Starmer’s behaviour just makes him look weak. Instead of coming out swinging and presenting an alternative to Farage, he just appears to be continually reacting to Farage’s nonsense by using language and presenting rushed policies designed to placate Reform voters. That doesn’t improve his chances; it just encourages the right wingers to think ”we were right all along, so let’s vote for Reform and do it properly”.
    It seems a daft strategy.

  19. It collapsed a while ago. Not specifically because of this policy.

  20. whats so hard with just being the labour party why do they have to be trend followers

  21. Good thing it doesn’t fucking matter as he has 4 years to win them back, stop trying to talk him out of actually solving the immigration issue it’s fucking stupid to think that taking no serious action on it is actually the answer

  22. Red Tories scratching their heads over why legitimising fascist politics only leads people to support fascists.

    These same brainboxes are behind Labour’s collapse in Scotland by the way.

  23. Wow I’m so surprised.

    This is the guy who diluted everything about his politics and his party in the lead up to the GE in hopes of winning over Tories, only for them to not vote for him anyway. Now he’s chasing them to Reform, where they *still* won’t vote for him.

    I know there’s recency bias here but, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more cowardly Prime Minister.

  24. Not surprising at this stage with all the social media botting from reform and other factions against him

  25. Wow completely betraying the political base of your party to chase the right wing doesn’t work? Crazy you’d think that people would learn

  26. Left wing Redditors when a guy with an anti immigration manifesto is anti immigration 😱

  27. The entire reason Starmer exists is to kill off any vestiges of the Labour left and move the party solidly to the right, and if the party dies in the process none of his handlers will lose any sleep over it. 

  28. And I’ve just been evicted of my home of 8 years because my landlord is selling to pay his inheritance tax. Guy needs a one way ticket to the Sun

  29. I don’t know why this dumbass keeps trying to appeal to voters who are going to vote for the parties already doing what he’s doing without the moral backbone. Nobody is going to vote Tory lite when the Tories are right fucking there.

  30. Yep, guess what, sometimes leaders need to do things in the interest of the country, not the specific world view of 20% of their political party. This is in the interest of the UK, he’s probably won over x2 the support he’s lost from his own party.

    He said he’d address immigration, and he has.

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