Nothing new here, always sticking our neck out, even if it looks really bad😎
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Isn’t it an actual law?
There’s literally not a single mention of the fact there is a law in Germany about languages used at protests without a translator present.
Sounds more like protesters are under attack rather than the irish language. Much easier to get sympathy for “they’re stopping us speaking our language” than “they’re stopping us protesting in their country”.
This is what the hate speech legislation the EU are foisting on us looks like in practice. Germany already has it.
EDIT: Downvote away, after all it’s your freedom of expression to do so. However just watch this, it’s 60 Minutes (a very well respected mainstream investigative show – not some fringe shit) on the hate speech laws in Germany, and tell me this is what you want here.
They broke the law, even if it is a stupid law that is being used poorly.
It’s not about the Irish language, it’s about any foreign language at public events in Germany. My friends had the same problem at a rally where they tried to give speeches in Ukrainian.
Where are all the free speech warriors in Aontú, Gript, and the Irish Freedom Party?
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Fuck me, the amount of boot licking in these comments. Do people not know that the 1916 Rising was against the law, the war of independence was against the law? The law can (and often is) wrong. The law in this case is being used to silence opposition to a genocide.
And of course people here are defending their stupid law against non German at protests instead of focusing on the fact that Germany has been nothing but absolutely either fucking delusional toward the topic of Palestine/Israel or just straight up compliant.
But “hurr durr it’s the law they should respect it”. German police have dragged people out of events simply for supporting Palestine. Your comments are horseshite
Misleading headline, they target pro Palestine protests all the time, they only used the law that all protests must be in English and German to arrest her.
What’s the law? That nobody can speak publicly in anything other than German?
How can they arrest people under a hate-speech law if they don’t know what people are saying. Isn’t there any form of due process?
This sounds like suppressing the opposition with government thugs all over again.
Fucking idiots going abroad to protest.
They’ve even done this to people speaking Hebrew supporting palestine
Old habits die hard
What a bullshit headline
Average Palestine rage bait title
What if we speak Irish in a German accent or German in an Irish accent?
Talk about misleading headline. Gobshites.
i think the repeated framing abt it being an attack on irish is just a stupid angle. it’s a fascistic law that basically infringes on freedom of expression, why can’t people just say that.
I don’t see the issue, German police don’t have a clue what you’re saying.
They have to treat foreign languages equally, they can’t have
people calling for a jihad against the German state in public unopposed because they don’t know what’s being said.
The idea that speech in an official European language can suppressed is quite shocking but I can’t actually find it in German law.
Instead the Berlin police seem to have made it up themselves;
>“[Speeches] can only be made in German and English and at certain times also in Arabic, and […] no exclamations or chants may be made in Hebrew or Gaelic,” a police spokesperson told the Irish newspaper, explaining that otherwise, “there could be speeches or chants glorifying violence with potentially punishable content during the assembly and the police must, of course, be able to understand them to be able to punish them and initiate appropriate investigative proceedings”.
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Nothing new here, always sticking our neck out, even if it looks really bad😎
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Isn’t it an actual law?
There’s literally not a single mention of the fact there is a law in Germany about languages used at protests without a translator present.
Sounds more like protesters are under attack rather than the irish language. Much easier to get sympathy for “they’re stopping us speaking our language” than “they’re stopping us protesting in their country”.
This is what the hate speech legislation the EU are foisting on us looks like in practice. Germany already has it.
EDIT: Downvote away, after all it’s your freedom of expression to do so. However just watch this, it’s 60 Minutes (a very well respected mainstream investigative show – not some fringe shit) on the hate speech laws in Germany, and tell me this is what you want here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMzFDpfDwc
They broke the law, even if it is a stupid law that is being used poorly.
It’s not about the Irish language, it’s about any foreign language at public events in Germany. My friends had the same problem at a rally where they tried to give speeches in Ukrainian.
Where are all the free speech warriors in Aontú, Gript, and the Irish Freedom Party?
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Fuck me, the amount of boot licking in these comments. Do people not know that the 1916 Rising was against the law, the war of independence was against the law? The law can (and often is) wrong. The law in this case is being used to silence opposition to a genocide.
And of course people here are defending their stupid law against non German at protests instead of focusing on the fact that Germany has been nothing but absolutely either fucking delusional toward the topic of Palestine/Israel or just straight up compliant.
But “hurr durr it’s the law they should respect it”. German police have dragged people out of events simply for supporting Palestine. Your comments are horseshite
Misleading headline, they target pro Palestine protests all the time, they only used the law that all protests must be in English and German to arrest her.
What’s the law? That nobody can speak publicly in anything other than German?
What about a dialect like [Öcher Platt](https://www.dat-es-oche.de/index.php/oecher-platt/w%C3%B6rterbuch)? Will they get arrested too?
How can they arrest people under a hate-speech law if they don’t know what people are saying. Isn’t there any form of due process?
This sounds like suppressing the opposition with government thugs all over again.
Fucking idiots going abroad to protest.
They’ve even done this to people speaking Hebrew supporting palestine
Old habits die hard
What a bullshit headline
Average Palestine rage bait title
What if we speak Irish in a German accent or German in an Irish accent?
Talk about misleading headline. Gobshites.
i think the repeated framing abt it being an attack on irish is just a stupid angle. it’s a fascistic law that basically infringes on freedom of expression, why can’t people just say that.
I don’t see the issue, German police don’t have a clue what you’re saying.
They have to treat foreign languages equally, they can’t have
people calling for a jihad against the German state in public unopposed because they don’t know what’s being said.
The idea that speech in an official European language can suppressed is quite shocking but I can’t actually find it in German law.
Instead the Berlin police seem to have made it up themselves;
>“[Speeches] can only be made in German and English and at certain times also in Arabic, and […] no exclamations or chants may be made in Hebrew or Gaelic,” a police spokesperson told the Irish newspaper, explaining that otherwise, “there could be speeches or chants glorifying violence with potentially punishable content during the assembly and the police must, of course, be able to understand them to be able to punish them and initiate appropriate investigative proceedings”.
[https://www.dw.com/en/freedom-of-assembly-in-germany-protected-but-regulated/a-39630488](https://www.dw.com/en/freedom-of-assembly-in-germany-protected-but-regulated/a-39630488)
In this case the police arrested protestors for singing in Irish, on the off-chance that some of the traditional songs might include hate speech.
Seems pretty actionable to me, in a modern functioning democracy I would expect this to be testable in the courts.
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