>“Mr. President Macron, how many times have you negotiated with Putin, what have you achieved? Have you stopped any of the actions that have taken place?” Morawiecki said at a press conference Monday. “One should not negotiate with criminals … Nobody negotiated with Hitler. Would you negotiate with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot?”
He’s right.
>French President Emmanuel Macron called Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki “an extreme-right anti-Semite who bans LGBT people.”
He’s right.
It’s funny because Morawiecki has Jewish roots & family. So I guess he’s anti-himself. I am all for criticizing PiS but holy shit they triggered Macron and he went full retard with his reactionary answer. That won’t be good for his elections.
Morawiecki is also one of the more liberal Center-right politicians in PiS. He was responsible for the top-down removal of LGBT-free zones. And his criticism of calls with Putin was legit.
I still think Le Pen will be bad for Europe. But I am beginning to understand why the French vote for Le Pen.
To be honest, when Morawiecki heard that Macron called him “anti-Semite” he probably laughed so hard, that he lost his kippah.
He what now? He’s a sack of shit, but hardly an anti-semite
Gotta say, it feels like 90% of the time accusation of anti-semitism is thrown around, the accuser doesn’t actually know much about the accused
How very presidential of Macron to throw around empty buzz words like anti-Semite. I understand its election season for him, but come on, you can do better than that.
To people wondering where the accusation of antisemitism comes from – I think it might be cause of his “there were Polish perpetrators and there were Jewish perpetrators” answer to accusations of Polish collaboration in the Holocaust. Nothing else comes to mind.
Nothing better for strenghtening the relations of the EU nations than putting them at odds for electoral reasons
It’s irresponsible
Putin’s buddy is upset .
Bold accusation
OMG. Morawiecki shouldn’t have criticized Macron for trying to negotiate with Pootin, but come on.
Macron behaved really unprofessional, not the first time actually.
Morawiecki is the opposite of “anti-semite”.
Macron’s a dumbass but the Polish PM who’s been attacking him for no reason doesn’t seem to be a sharp mind either. Anyway as a French person I just learned Macron accused him of being an anti-semite, if it weren’t for Reddit I wouldn’t know there are diplomatic tensions between Poland and France because nobody talks about it here.
To be frank I do not think Macron was wrong to talk to Putin, he was playing the good cop and when an unhinged dictator says nuclear war is an option, bluff or not, it’s not a bad idea to engage in dialogue even if it’s one sided, just to take the temperature and to help your allies to eventually make tough decisions.
There’s no beef between French and Polish people imho.
Weeks ago everyone this sub was up in arms about France potentially leading the EU, even though it does not work that way at all.
With Le Pen on the horizon, Macron throwing his toys at the pram – this aged like milk.
And all of this bickering is taking away from the most important thing: opposing russia
FCAS and MGCS will be dead projects within months if LenPen makes it
I have feeling that this kind of outburst might be worse for Macron than anything what Morawiecki said.
Macron must be dumber than I thought for even giving the Polish PM and his deplorable accomplices a response.
Can the EU please stop infighting in the middle of this crisis?
I think Putin has some serious dirt on him and is using it as leverage, same with Orban
> It is not clear why Mr Macron accused Mr Morawiecki of anti-Semitism, although the Polish government has faced international criticism for laws making it harder for Jewish people to recover property lost during and after World War Two, as well as one making it an offence to link the Polish nation to Nazi crimes.
Seems unclear what Macron is talking about, as these things aren’t really enough to call someone an anti-semite.
It looks like Macron is jealous, because Poland takes leader position during this war. He was so happy that Merkel retired and he will be the leeder of all Europe and bam Poland 😀
I thought Macron was against all this woke identity politics. Or is he just against it as it pertains to black French people living in poverty?
If we could stop infighting while Russia is trying to fuck over the entire world. That would be great:)
Well in this case I’d almost say both are equal dicks and should both cool off a bit.
TLDR: Morawiecki is a dick for supporting Le Pen. Le pen: Trump and Putin supporter. Just this week she said she stands for the ideals of both and that there is only a Strong France with Putin and Russia at it’s side.
Yeah we really need a clash of ego inside EU now. Poland shouldn’t have insulted Macron but the answer is so childish but it’s a Macron’s classic at this point.
I was skeptical about the EU united thing for me it was just a PR move and I was patiently waiting to see how long it will last, the answer is less than one month it’s disapointing.
EU is weak and this crisis shows it…
PS: Just to be clear I wish EU was stronger so they put aside their ego and personal interests. But EU is pretty new and shaky afterall, I hope it doesn’t result in even more tensions inside our borders but I doubt it.
Calling Jewish person who also supports another Jewish person in times of war an Anti-Semite.
The closer we get to election the more I feal Macron wants to fuck this up.
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>“Mr. President Macron, how many times have you negotiated with Putin, what have you achieved? Have you stopped any of the actions that have taken place?” Morawiecki said at a press conference Monday. “One should not negotiate with criminals … Nobody negotiated with Hitler. Would you negotiate with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot?”
He’s right.
>French President Emmanuel Macron called Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki “an extreme-right anti-Semite who bans LGBT people.”
He’s right.
It’s funny because Morawiecki has Jewish roots & family. So I guess he’s anti-himself. I am all for criticizing PiS but holy shit they triggered Macron and he went full retard with his reactionary answer. That won’t be good for his elections.
Morawiecki is also one of the more liberal Center-right politicians in PiS. He was responsible for the top-down removal of LGBT-free zones. And his criticism of calls with Putin was legit.
I still think Le Pen will be bad for Europe. But I am beginning to understand why the French vote for Le Pen.
To be honest, when Morawiecki heard that Macron called him “anti-Semite” he probably laughed so hard, that he lost his kippah.
He what now? He’s a sack of shit, but hardly an anti-semite
Gotta say, it feels like 90% of the time accusation of anti-semitism is thrown around, the accuser doesn’t actually know much about the accused
How very presidential of Macron to throw around empty buzz words like anti-Semite. I understand its election season for him, but come on, you can do better than that.
To people wondering where the accusation of antisemitism comes from – I think it might be cause of his “there were Polish perpetrators and there were Jewish perpetrators” answer to accusations of Polish collaboration in the Holocaust. Nothing else comes to mind.
Nothing better for strenghtening the relations of the EU nations than putting them at odds for electoral reasons
It’s irresponsible
Putin’s buddy is upset .
Bold accusation
OMG. Morawiecki shouldn’t have criticized Macron for trying to negotiate with Pootin, but come on.
Macron behaved really unprofessional, not the first time actually.
Morawiecki is the opposite of “anti-semite”.
Macron’s a dumbass but the Polish PM who’s been attacking him for no reason doesn’t seem to be a sharp mind either. Anyway as a French person I just learned Macron accused him of being an anti-semite, if it weren’t for Reddit I wouldn’t know there are diplomatic tensions between Poland and France because nobody talks about it here.
To be frank I do not think Macron was wrong to talk to Putin, he was playing the good cop and when an unhinged dictator says nuclear war is an option, bluff or not, it’s not a bad idea to engage in dialogue even if it’s one sided, just to take the temperature and to help your allies to eventually make tough decisions.
There’s no beef between French and Polish people imho.
Weeks ago everyone this sub was up in arms about France potentially leading the EU, even though it does not work that way at all.
With Le Pen on the horizon, Macron throwing his toys at the pram – this aged like milk.
And all of this bickering is taking away from the most important thing: opposing russia
FCAS and MGCS will be dead projects within months if LenPen makes it
I have feeling that this kind of outburst might be worse for Macron than anything what Morawiecki said.
Macron must be dumber than I thought for even giving the Polish PM and his deplorable accomplices a response.
Can the EU please stop infighting in the middle of this crisis?
I think Putin has some serious dirt on him and is using it as leverage, same with Orban
[Another article on BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61043344).
> It is not clear why Mr Macron accused Mr Morawiecki of anti-Semitism, although the Polish government has faced international criticism for laws making it harder for Jewish people to recover property lost during and after World War Two, as well as one making it an offence to link the Polish nation to Nazi crimes.
Seems unclear what Macron is talking about, as these things aren’t really enough to call someone an anti-semite.
It looks like Macron is jealous, because Poland takes leader position during this war. He was so happy that Merkel retired and he will be the leeder of all Europe and bam Poland 😀
I thought Macron was against all this woke identity politics. Or is he just against it as it pertains to black French people living in poverty?
If we could stop infighting while Russia is trying to fuck over the entire world. That would be great:)
he called him an “extreme right anti-semite who bans lgbt people” to be exact https://www.politico.eu/article/macron-morawiecki-extreme-right-antisemite-ban-lgbt-people/
Well in this case I’d almost say both are equal dicks and should both cool off a bit.
TLDR: Morawiecki is a dick for supporting Le Pen. Le pen: Trump and Putin supporter. Just this week she said she stands for the ideals of both and that there is only a Strong France with Putin and Russia at it’s side.
Yeah we really need a clash of ego inside EU now. Poland shouldn’t have insulted Macron but the answer is so childish but it’s a Macron’s classic at this point.
I was skeptical about the EU united thing for me it was just a PR move and I was patiently waiting to see how long it will last, the answer is less than one month it’s disapointing.
EU is weak and this crisis shows it…
PS: Just to be clear I wish EU was stronger so they put aside their ego and personal interests. But EU is pretty new and shaky afterall, I hope it doesn’t result in even more tensions inside our borders but I doubt it.
Calling Jewish person who also supports another Jewish person in times of war an Anti-Semite.
The closer we get to election the more I feal Macron wants to fuck this up.