Disgusting. The whole lot of them are corrupt. What the actual fuck is happening and WHY is HMRC allowing them to declare themselves non-dom?
Hahaha
Seeing the BBC running cover for this prick today too, priceless. Pay your fucking taxes, Sunaks.
What is this bullshit??
> that’s where she, you know, **ultimately will want to go and look after her parents as they get older.**
I’m sorry, is he trying to make out that poor little her is going to have to go and look after her parents and be in hardship? Her father is worth $4+ billion! I somehow don’t think that she’s gonna be helping give her father bed baths and hand feeding him soup.
Is this a crime? It feels like it should be a crime.
Sunak will never be as riddled with scandal as much as our current PM – even if he lived a 100 lifetimes.
But it will be intresting to see if he has the same teflon ability.
A stupid and dishonest man. Why did he think this would go undetected.
Theyre gonna keep lying until youre dead.
Just sayin
Then he should resign his post a dutifully F%%k of to the states
I spent yesterday writing about the technicalities of domicile as they might impact Rishi Sunak’s wife. But that’s because her tax decisions cast doubt on his suitability for office. Another thread, this time in the man himself ….
Sunak shot to prominence in 2020 when appointed Chancellor of the Exchequer. Although not quite unknown before then, few had paid him much attention.
Even his appointment as Chancellor looked as much like luck as anything else. He’d managed to be promoted through the ranks of obscure ministers to hold the number 2 position at the Treasury when Sajid Javid resigned. Appointing him saved a reshuffle, so he got the job.
Then Covid happened and Sunak spent like almost no Chancellor in history. Having discovered there really was a magic money tree, which quantitative easing turned on, he had the Bank of England create all the money he needed to cover the cost of Covid.
It could be argued that anyone who spends £400 billion without asking for anything back in tax and without increasing borrowing (which he didn’t, because QE cancels government debt) is going to be popular. Sunak was.
Then came the reckoning. £37 billion on track and trace was very obviously wasted. It turned out Covid loans to businesses were handed out without any basic checks and billions will be lost. And then there was PPE corruption. Sunak must have known. The crown slipped.
But what we did not see until Covid was declared ‘over’ (when it very clearly was not) was just what the real Rishi Sunak was like. And the reality was shocking. The man who had turned the money on declared that this was an aberration. Sunak decided to play the hard man instead.
Not only did Sunak now deny there was a magic money tree, when he’d so obviously been using it, but he declared the policies he’d pursued were reckless and now he must shrink the state to pay for them. Rishi Scrooge appeared out of nowhere.
Although Covid put massive pressure on public services, and increased the cost of supplying them, Sunak refused the money to deliver the services required. From health to education, care, the legal system and so much more all Sunak offered was austerity and pressure on employees
Pensioners lost out on the inflation pay rise they were due under existing rules. Universal credit was cut even though it was known the cost of living was rising.
Tax increases were announced that hit those in work and on lower pay hardest, but which did not go near those with wealth at all.
And as fuel costs escalated because Sunak’s Treasury had failed to understand that reopening after Covid was always going to impose supply chain, cash flow and other disruptions, his rebate offer was too small, and based in the idea of a loan, not a subsidy.
In the meantime the Bank of England chose to put up interest rates to increase the cost of living, deliberately, as if people were not being punished enough. Sunak must have approved this as he has the right to veto it.
Come the latest announcements, the failure to take further measures to help those millions now facing unplayable bills revealed a complete ignorance of the despair people face when their costs go up by maybe £3,000 a year and they have no way to find that money.
At the same time he revealed he did not know how to pay for a can of coke using a contactless payment card.
And we learned that Brexit, of which he was a strong supporter, really has trashed UK exports when those of every other country were recovering.
To cap which, he’s also opposing spending on green measures as we are being told we are in the last chance saloon on climate change.
Then we discovered his wife has likely saved tens of millions in tax, quite legally, by paying £30,000 a year to use a scheme that let her do so. In other words, she consciously chose not to pay her taxes here.
So what to think of Rishi Sunak? Is he a man suitable to be Chancellor, let alone Prime Minister, as he’d clearly love to be? There are four criteria here. They’re politics, economics, empathy and ethics.
Sunak’s politics are to the right of the Tory party. He’s into small government, low tax, and leaving people to get on and sort out their own problems without state help. But that’s not what we need now.
Sick people desperately need a better, bigger NHS. We need more spent on education, the judicial system, care, the environment, green transport, climate change and social housing and benefits. Sunak is not recognising this. Politically he doesn’t recognise the need of the moment
Worse politically, his choice to make people worse off now – which has been his pattern since it was claimed Covid was over – has within it the suggestion that people must now be punished for Covid, and that was not their fault. That’s bad political judgement.
Worse still is his economic judgement. He does not realise that by crushing expenditure by the government and by at the same time forcing households into poverty he is most likely pushing us into deep recession.
All Sunak thinks important is balancing his books, he has not noticed that by doing so he’s reducing the income of most people in the country – and recession has to follow. That’s the action of a man who does not understand economics, or his job.
But maybe that’s not surprising because what’s become clear is that Sunak has not got the empathy required of a senior politician. It’s either that, or he’s just so rich that the idea that you just cannot pay your bills or opt for private medicine is beyond his comprehension.
To describe Sunak as a man without the common touch is to be generous: he does not even realise that there is such a thing and that he needs to have it.
And so I come to his ethics. As his family’s decisions on tax reveal, these prioritise his wealth above the public interest. Faced with a moral choice, what is legal but not ethical is the choice made if there is personal gain to be had. For a politician that is staggering.
Is Rishi Sunak in that case a man fit to be Chancellor when his political, economic, empathic and ethical decisions are all wrong? The obvious answer is that he is not. Nor should he ever be a candidate for prime minister unless we want to create a wasteland.
Sunak’s wife’s domicile claim is based on the suggestion that she does not wish to live here in the long term. I’d suggest now is the time for Boris Johnson to help her fulfil that dream. Sunak needs to be sacked, and be free to leave.
Hopefully the public is rightfully angry over this and grabs him by his Sunakkers and squeezes til he pays up and ideally steps down.
>Rishi Sunak ‘was declared permanent US resident’ while being chancellor of UK
This is even funnier, because US citizens are not allowed any of these non dom scams. Any income from home and abroad is taxed, and if they work abroad they are still expected to pay taxes to the US government.
Lol I used to think Sunak would be the least terrible option of next Tory PM, but now he’s totally fucked himself. Seems Boris has done a hit job, but this whole non-dom thing is absolutely ridiculous. His wife can afford to pay the taxes and she should. And why the hell have they received a US green card? Shows that they’re susceptible to foreign influence.
Pre-Johnson, this would have been an obvious resigning offence. It’ll be fascinating to see what happens in the post-Johnson, post-accountability era.
Maybe it’s just me but to be eligible to run the country, you should only be a citizen of that country ? Is that an unreasonable request ?
Surely this can’t be legal? How holding a senior government brief and having citizenship elsewhere not be a conflict of interest? o.o
Only problem is that behind this right wing ghoul is a ghastlier right wing ghoul.
I learned as a child under thatcher one simple rule to live by.
Never. Vote. Tory.
Why did the british forget this already? Its like we’re going through the fucking 80s again.
what the fuck are we actually supposed to do at this stage? like really? how far is this going to go?
They hate you, and this is all just a game for them.
How to say your corrupt with out saying your corrupt.
I’m going to predict the papers cartoon writers take on this whole thing.
Rishi Sunak, shaped like the Hindenberg…
So when we start going after this government, he will piss off the US and be safe? Coward.
[deleted]
British politics over the last three years rivals any fictional political drama ever written. This is glorious for a lefty like me.
I don’t understand. Why not wait to change their status until after they live in the US? Oh yeah money.
Ah, he’s a goner. You can’t sit in No.11 Downing Street and not be up front about all this. Too much shit on his shoes, he’s outta here.
Wonder who he has upset for this all to come out now…
Maybe I’m becoming more cynical as I get older, but given that he was a favourite to replace Bojo, it makes you wonder who is that mad at him to start releasing all this.
How have we let this country get taken over by bankers?
Him and wife are worth over 600 million. Why would he be a politician? Why? It’s got to be corrupt. It’s a mess.
Whaaaaat
Surely all the freaks telling us not to comment on his wife’s status can now see how’s he’s fully in on that scam
At least Sunak and Johnson both being American makes their policies make sense. Nothing like some ruthless American captialism with disguesting levels of debt.
Rishi Sunak is directly responsible for a large number of deaths, as he repeatedly pushed for opening up of society before covid vaccines were available.
His idea to open everything up in December 2020, mere weeks before the rollout of the vaccine, directly lead to thousands, possible tens of thousands, of unnecessary deaths
And just to think he was being mentioned as a possible replacement for Boris if he got the chop.
Rishi is a snake
how is this allowed? if he is u.s resident then he should just piss off there…. so i bet he isnt paying tax either
>Rishi Sunak ‘was declared permanent US resident’ while being chancellor of UK
Hmmm… Sounds suspect.
After he’s done here, like others, he will head up a major bank on a 8 figure, possibly even 9 figures including bonuses in the US.
Unless he becomes PM.
Lots of dirt about Sunak coming out recently in quick succession.
I wonder if Johnson or Truss or whoever’s running them are getting a bit threatened by his previous popularity and dumping everything they have to fuck his chances as next Conservative PM?
Happily this *should* be enough to sink his chances… but then again Johnson’s weathered enough scandals that should have spelled the end of his political career in recent years that I’m not sure such a thing really exists any more…
Sunak was a US permanent resident, his wife a permanent Indian resident. Must have been a struggle getting together to have kids.
Rishi: get my wife’s name out your f***ing mouth
Rishi: no not like that
Maybe it’s like of ambiguous but the title almost sounds like it’s something in the past when he is the Chancellor right now
Good old British justice will prevail, nothing will happen
Hang on… Where does it say that? We all know his WIFE has been claiming ‘non-dom’ status. But you are saying HE has too? I may have missed it but I didn’t hear anything in that video (or anywhere else so far) to suggest he has too.
Do they have a bet going on who can make the biggest scandal before being forced out?
Nobody in this country batted an eyelid when Stephen Kinnock paid his taxes in Switzerland, his Danish wife was running for PM at the time.
British Citizen and US Permanent Resident (green card holder) here. Rishi would not have gained any tax advantage by been a US Green Card holder unless he was considered a non-resident of the UK which I’m hoping he is not.
Otherwise he is required to file taxes in a similar matter to US citizens resident in the UK. That is by filing taxes with both the US and the UK. Any income that is earned in the US gets taxed there first and then any additional tax that the UK would be levied by the UK would then hit him.
His worldwide (non-US) income would be subject to UK tax first, then subject to US tax. It is likely that UK taxes would have exceeded that of US taxes, so he shouldn’t have anything owing to the US via foreign tax credits which are there to eliminate double taxation.
Having US Citizenship and US LPR status are significant tax disadvantages as they incure onerous filing requirements no matter where you live in the world.
What I’m pissed off about is that the US Authorities have given Rishi a pass on the requirement to permanently live in the US which the rest of us are subject to. It’s also galling that the Chancellor abused immigration rules in the US while his colleagues in the same government talk tough on immigration in the UK and abuse immigrants via draconian case handling at the Home Office.
I honestly am not trying to defend Sunak, and think that his wife’s non-dom shenanigans should be looked into properly. But what is the issue with him holding a US green card?? This seems blown out of proportion…
Unless there’s some extra loopholes which I’m not aware of, holding the green card would put him at a tax disadvantage, because he’d be liable for income tax in both the US and UK (unless he used the greencard to claim non-dom in the UK, but it doesn’t sound like he did). The US tax system is fucked, I’m surprised he held onto the greencard for as long as he did, and can understand him giving it up. Boris did the same and I don’t blame him (he actually had citizenship though). I don’t see how holding the greencard would have reduced his UK tax liability – anyone care to explain?
There’s the moral issue of holding a status that requires him to declare some kind of intent of becoming a US citizen, but that’s kinda bullshit anyway and just semantics imo, a bit like how everyone swears oaths of office on god without being actually religious.
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Christ. You just can’t make this shit up anymore.
Disgusting. The whole lot of them are corrupt. What the actual fuck is happening and WHY is HMRC allowing them to declare themselves non-dom?
Hahaha
Seeing the BBC running cover for this prick today too, priceless. Pay your fucking taxes, Sunaks.
What is this bullshit??
> that’s where she, you know, **ultimately will want to go and look after her parents as they get older.**
I’m sorry, is he trying to make out that poor little her is going to have to go and look after her parents and be in hardship? Her father is worth $4+ billion! I somehow don’t think that she’s gonna be helping give her father bed baths and hand feeding him soup.
Is this a crime? It feels like it should be a crime.
Sunak will never be as riddled with scandal as much as our current PM – even if he lived a 100 lifetimes.
But it will be intresting to see if he has the same teflon ability.
A stupid and dishonest man. Why did he think this would go undetected.
Theyre gonna keep lying until youre dead.
Just sayin
Then he should resign his post a dutifully F%%k of to the states
Anyone remember:
>February 2017:
>
>[Politico: Boris Johnson says bye-bye to US citizenship after tax row](https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-says-bye-bye-to-us-citizenship-after-tax-row-irs-data/)
>
>The British foreign secretary’s decision was likely motivated by taxes.
–
Add this:
I posted his 🧵 from yesterday [here](https://np.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/tyhr78/jimmy_carrs_tax_affairs_were_immoral_but_rishis/i3tuzi6/?context=3), and this is the follow up:
Richard Murphy [@RichardJMurphy](https://nitter.net/RichardJMurphy)
I spent yesterday writing about the technicalities of domicile as they might impact Rishi Sunak’s wife. But that’s because her tax decisions cast doubt on his suitability for office. Another thread, this time in the man himself ….
Sunak shot to prominence in 2020 when appointed Chancellor of the Exchequer. Although not quite unknown before then, few had paid him much attention.
Even his appointment as Chancellor looked as much like luck as anything else. He’d managed to be promoted through the ranks of obscure ministers to hold the number 2 position at the Treasury when Sajid Javid resigned. Appointing him saved a reshuffle, so he got the job.
Then Covid happened and Sunak spent like almost no Chancellor in history. Having discovered there really was a magic money tree, which quantitative easing turned on, he had the Bank of England create all the money he needed to cover the cost of Covid.
It could be argued that anyone who spends £400 billion without asking for anything back in tax and without increasing borrowing (which he didn’t, because QE cancels government debt) is going to be popular. Sunak was.
Then came the reckoning. £37 billion on track and trace was very obviously wasted. It turned out Covid loans to businesses were handed out without any basic checks and billions will be lost. And then there was PPE corruption. Sunak must have known. The crown slipped.
But what we did not see until Covid was declared ‘over’ (when it very clearly was not) was just what the real Rishi Sunak was like. And the reality was shocking. The man who had turned the money on declared that this was an aberration. Sunak decided to play the hard man instead.
Not only did Sunak now deny there was a magic money tree, when he’d so obviously been using it, but he declared the policies he’d pursued were reckless and now he must shrink the state to pay for them. Rishi Scrooge appeared out of nowhere.
Although Covid put massive pressure on public services, and increased the cost of supplying them, Sunak refused the money to deliver the services required. From health to education, care, the legal system and so much more all Sunak offered was austerity and pressure on employees
Pensioners lost out on the inflation pay rise they were due under existing rules. Universal credit was cut even though it was known the cost of living was rising.
Tax increases were announced that hit those in work and on lower pay hardest, but which did not go near those with wealth at all.
And as fuel costs escalated because Sunak’s Treasury had failed to understand that reopening after Covid was always going to impose supply chain, cash flow and other disruptions, his rebate offer was too small, and based in the idea of a loan, not a subsidy.
In the meantime the Bank of England chose to put up interest rates to increase the cost of living, deliberately, as if people were not being punished enough. Sunak must have approved this as he has the right to veto it.
Come the latest announcements, the failure to take further measures to help those millions now facing unplayable bills revealed a complete ignorance of the despair people face when their costs go up by maybe £3,000 a year and they have no way to find that money.
At the same time he revealed he did not know how to pay for a can of coke using a contactless payment card.
And we learned that Brexit, of which he was a strong supporter, really has trashed UK exports when those of every other country were recovering.
To cap which, he’s also opposing spending on green measures as we are being told we are in the last chance saloon on climate change.
Then we discovered his wife has likely saved tens of millions in tax, quite legally, by paying £30,000 a year to use a scheme that let her do so. In other words, she consciously chose not to pay her taxes here.
So what to think of Rishi Sunak? Is he a man suitable to be Chancellor, let alone Prime Minister, as he’d clearly love to be? There are four criteria here. They’re politics, economics, empathy and ethics.
Sunak’s politics are to the right of the Tory party. He’s into small government, low tax, and leaving people to get on and sort out their own problems without state help. But that’s not what we need now.
Sick people desperately need a better, bigger NHS. We need more spent on education, the judicial system, care, the environment, green transport, climate change and social housing and benefits. Sunak is not recognising this. Politically he doesn’t recognise the need of the moment
Worse politically, his choice to make people worse off now – which has been his pattern since it was claimed Covid was over – has within it the suggestion that people must now be punished for Covid, and that was not their fault. That’s bad political judgement.
Worse still is his economic judgement. He does not realise that by crushing expenditure by the government and by at the same time forcing households into poverty he is most likely pushing us into deep recession.
All Sunak thinks important is balancing his books, he has not noticed that by doing so he’s reducing the income of most people in the country – and recession has to follow. That’s the action of a man who does not understand economics, or his job.
But maybe that’s not surprising because what’s become clear is that Sunak has not got the empathy required of a senior politician. It’s either that, or he’s just so rich that the idea that you just cannot pay your bills or opt for private medicine is beyond his comprehension.
To describe Sunak as a man without the common touch is to be generous: he does not even realise that there is such a thing and that he needs to have it.
And so I come to his ethics. As his family’s decisions on tax reveal, these prioritise his wealth above the public interest. Faced with a moral choice, what is legal but not ethical is the choice made if there is personal gain to be had. For a politician that is staggering.
Is Rishi Sunak in that case a man fit to be Chancellor when his political, economic, empathic and ethical decisions are all wrong? The obvious answer is that he is not. Nor should he ever be a candidate for prime minister unless we want to create a wasteland.
Sunak’s wife’s domicile claim is based on the suggestion that she does not wish to live here in the long term. I’d suggest now is the time for Boris Johnson to help her fulfil that dream. Sunak needs to be sacked, and be free to leave.
[Apr 8, 2022 · 7:23 AM UTC](https://nitter.net/RichardJMurphy/status/1512330297949446147)
Guess Dishi Rishi stands for Dishonest Rishi.
Hopefully the public is rightfully angry over this and grabs him by his Sunakkers and squeezes til he pays up and ideally steps down.
>Rishi Sunak ‘was declared permanent US resident’ while being chancellor of UK
This is even funnier, because US citizens are not allowed any of these non dom scams. Any income from home and abroad is taxed, and if they work abroad they are still expected to pay taxes to the US government.
Lol I used to think Sunak would be the least terrible option of next Tory PM, but now he’s totally fucked himself. Seems Boris has done a hit job, but this whole non-dom thing is absolutely ridiculous. His wife can afford to pay the taxes and she should. And why the hell have they received a US green card? Shows that they’re susceptible to foreign influence.
Pre-Johnson, this would have been an obvious resigning offence. It’ll be fascinating to see what happens in the post-Johnson, post-accountability era.
Maybe it’s just me but to be eligible to run the country, you should only be a citizen of that country ? Is that an unreasonable request ?
Surely this can’t be legal? How holding a senior government brief and having citizenship elsewhere not be a conflict of interest? o.o
Only problem is that behind this right wing ghoul is a ghastlier right wing ghoul.
I learned as a child under thatcher one simple rule to live by.
Never. Vote. Tory.
Why did the british forget this already? Its like we’re going through the fucking 80s again.
what the fuck are we actually supposed to do at this stage? like really? how far is this going to go?
They hate you, and this is all just a game for them.
How to say your corrupt with out saying your corrupt.
I’m going to predict the papers cartoon writers take on this whole thing.
Rishi Sunak, shaped like the Hindenberg…
So when we start going after this government, he will piss off the US and be safe? Coward.
[deleted]
British politics over the last three years rivals any fictional political drama ever written. This is glorious for a lefty like me.
I don’t understand. Why not wait to change their status until after they live in the US? Oh yeah money.
Ah, he’s a goner. You can’t sit in No.11 Downing Street and not be up front about all this. Too much shit on his shoes, he’s outta here.
Wonder who he has upset for this all to come out now…
Maybe I’m becoming more cynical as I get older, but given that he was a favourite to replace Bojo, it makes you wonder who is that mad at him to start releasing all this.
How have we let this country get taken over by bankers?
Him and wife are worth over 600 million. Why would he be a politician? Why? It’s got to be corrupt. It’s a mess.
Whaaaaat
Surely all the freaks telling us not to comment on his wife’s status can now see how’s he’s fully in on that scam
At least Sunak and Johnson both being American makes their policies make sense. Nothing like some ruthless American captialism with disguesting levels of debt.
Rishi Sunak is directly responsible for a large number of deaths, as he repeatedly pushed for opening up of society before covid vaccines were available.
His idea to open everything up in December 2020, mere weeks before the rollout of the vaccine, directly lead to thousands, possible tens of thousands, of unnecessary deaths
And just to think he was being mentioned as a possible replacement for Boris if he got the chop.
Rishi is a snake
how is this allowed? if he is u.s resident then he should just piss off there…. so i bet he isnt paying tax either
>Rishi Sunak ‘was declared permanent US resident’ while being chancellor of UK
Hmmm… Sounds suspect.
After he’s done here, like others, he will head up a major bank on a 8 figure, possibly even 9 figures including bonuses in the US.
Unless he becomes PM.
Lots of dirt about Sunak coming out recently in quick succession.
I wonder if Johnson or Truss or whoever’s running them are getting a bit threatened by his previous popularity and dumping everything they have to fuck his chances as next Conservative PM?
Happily this *should* be enough to sink his chances… but then again Johnson’s weathered enough scandals that should have spelled the end of his political career in recent years that I’m not sure such a thing really exists any more…
Sunak was a US permanent resident, his wife a permanent Indian resident. Must have been a struggle getting together to have kids.
Rishi: get my wife’s name out your f***ing mouth
Rishi: no not like that
Maybe it’s like of ambiguous but the title almost sounds like it’s something in the past when he is the Chancellor right now
Good old British justice will prevail, nothing will happen
Hang on… Where does it say that? We all know his WIFE has been claiming ‘non-dom’ status. But you are saying HE has too? I may have missed it but I didn’t hear anything in that video (or anywhere else so far) to suggest he has too.
Do they have a bet going on who can make the biggest scandal before being forced out?
Nobody in this country batted an eyelid when Stephen Kinnock paid his taxes in Switzerland, his Danish wife was running for PM at the time.
British Citizen and US Permanent Resident (green card holder) here. Rishi would not have gained any tax advantage by been a US Green Card holder unless he was considered a non-resident of the UK which I’m hoping he is not.
Otherwise he is required to file taxes in a similar matter to US citizens resident in the UK. That is by filing taxes with both the US and the UK. Any income that is earned in the US gets taxed there first and then any additional tax that the UK would be levied by the UK would then hit him.
His worldwide (non-US) income would be subject to UK tax first, then subject to US tax. It is likely that UK taxes would have exceeded that of US taxes, so he shouldn’t have anything owing to the US via foreign tax credits which are there to eliminate double taxation.
Having US Citizenship and US LPR status are significant tax disadvantages as they incure onerous filing requirements no matter where you live in the world.
What I’m pissed off about is that the US Authorities have given Rishi a pass on the requirement to permanently live in the US which the rest of us are subject to. It’s also galling that the Chancellor abused immigration rules in the US while his colleagues in the same government talk tough on immigration in the UK and abuse immigrants via draconian case handling at the Home Office.
I honestly am not trying to defend Sunak, and think that his wife’s non-dom shenanigans should be looked into properly. But what is the issue with him holding a US green card?? This seems blown out of proportion…
Unless there’s some extra loopholes which I’m not aware of, holding the green card would put him at a tax disadvantage, because he’d be liable for income tax in both the US and UK (unless he used the greencard to claim non-dom in the UK, but it doesn’t sound like he did). The US tax system is fucked, I’m surprised he held onto the greencard for as long as he did, and can understand him giving it up. Boris did the same and I don’t blame him (he actually had citizenship though). I don’t see how holding the greencard would have reduced his UK tax liability – anyone care to explain?
There’s the moral issue of holding a status that requires him to declare some kind of intent of becoming a US citizen, but that’s kinda bullshit anyway and just semantics imo, a bit like how everyone swears oaths of office on god without being actually religious.