Next 100 years – any monarchies left in Europe? What do you think?

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by Mynteblomst

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  1. A “constitutional monarchy” can still be a democracy, with just a crowned head of state.

    In most (all?) of these countries, the royals today mostly have representative functions. Very different to the monarchies of 1914.

  2. Yeah 100%. Example: Luxembourg. Our grand duke has no real power anymore but its still a symbol of our independence. Basically we got out of the personal union of the netherlands thanks to heredity issues. Then the grand duchy played a symbolic role in ww2.

    And if you go far back, the House of Luxrmbourg-Ardennes (not be confused with current House of Weilburg-Nassau, nor with the House of Luxembourg during the 1300s) literally founded the country in 963. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried,_Count_of_the_Ardennes Not a duke, not a grand duke, but a count.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_of_Luxembourg#Counts_of_Luxembourg

    Also feel proud to be the last remaining grand duchy haha. But basically again, were not Liechtenstein, monarch hasnt gotten any real powers.

  3. How many that were still there in 1945 crumbled in the next 81 years?

  4. This is a great example how propaganda works. The same picture just based off of 1918 would have looked almost identical to 2023. None of the monarchies left are actual ‘monarchies’ either, they are all constitutional ones.

  5. Maybe Spain, I think theirs is constantly embroiled in controversy. But mine? It’ll probably stay. They’re just a national mascot, in charge of ceremonies and promoting soft power, and they are quite alright on my own judgement of their person.

  7. Most of the ones that are there now probably will be in 100 years. Practically all of them are stable, rich democracies, which means there’s no urgent need for big constitutional changes. Seeing how most monarchies were abolished after a revolution or a (lost) war, not much will change in the remaining ones unless some very disruptive event occurs.

  9. As a Dane I like our monachy. I take them as a safe guard for corruption. If a corrupt leader rigged an election, they could be stopped by the king. And I trust my monarch to not abuse his power. I think the Danish system is one of the most democratic ones in the world.

  10. As long as we have monarchs like we’ve had since 1905, I think the Norwegian monarchy will still be around in 100 years.

  11. Could also very well be a return to constitutional monarchism.

    More and more countries get their national unity destroyed by factionalism between political parties that once could work together for the nation and now act like the other party or parties are the their arch enemy and divide the nation.

    Monarchs (if they use their role well) are a symbol of unity like no 5 year elected president (who might be heavily biased based on their party) will ever be.

  12. I can see the Dutch one staying. There’s some controversy about the cost however we’d most likely need a president otherwise anyway. (Someone other than the minister president) Which will also incur cost. I think people love the royal family enough to where they are okay with the cost.

  13. All these countries face an economic crisis, housing crisis, immigration crisis, energy crisis, war (Russia-Ukraine), political divide due to the Israel-Gaza war, increased budget deficit.

    All due respect but if a party is prioritising getting rid of the monarchy over literally all these issues then maybe the government is really run by brain dead monkeys.

  16. For the UK, I think it hinges on how the public feels about Prince George when he’s grown up.

    I expect we’ll get the full reign of William once he takes over.

  18. Honestly, with how stable those are, you´re more likely to have more.

  19. Idk about next 100, but in the next 200-500 years I think it’ll be the opposite. Monarchies will return. Instead of the royals being “chosen by god” they’ll be the richest people around who own everything and can afford to buy everyone. Or not. I hope for democracy to exist for the next millenia.

  20. In 100 years the kings will be those with access to water and livable temperatures.

  21. It’s extremely strange that people care so much about this. Democracy vs autocracy is infinitely more important, and as seen in the picture there is little correlation.

    I think I’d vote to become a Republic, but reddit anti-monarchists seethe so much about something so insignificant that I kind of feel closer to a monarchists. Only the constitutional ones, of course.

  25. The monarchies in 1914 and monarchies in 2023 are very different kind of states.

    Most monarchies in 1914 were dictators who fought against Democratic institutions. Those who fought the hardest have been overthrown. Those who were or turned into Constitutional Monarchies remain.

    Most monarchies today (other than a few microstates) are Democracies whose main difference compared to Republics is that they have one less election to care about. They don’t really function any worse than a democratic republic does, thus it’s unlikely anything will change. When the peopel are angry, they are usually angry at the elected officials as they are the ones with legislative and executive power.

  26. Yup. It’s not that they have a lot of power anyway. So nobody wants to topple a monarchy in their country.

  27. Constitutional monarchies are simply much more stable than republics. How many of these republics are autocratic? Meanwhile, all the monarchies in Europe score amongst the highest in the world for democracy ratings. What’s the big deal of having someone live in a guilded cage as a backup for when shit hits the fans. all the while, you have a public figure that, by nature of their livelihood, acts in the interest of the nation, instead of the next election.

    Beats me why you are all staunch republicans. It’s not like we live under oppressive 18th century regimes

  29. I think there have been royals for hundreds of years and there will be for hundreds of years more.

  30. Fun fact:

    The French president is co-prince of Andorra.

  32. I hope it stays in Lux. I prefer the GD, then some sleezy politician as head of state.

  34. I’m not some hardline monarchist, I’m actually left leaning- however I truly believe constitutional monarchy is the greatest system of government in the history of democracy.

    Unlike a President, our countries head of state remains politically neutral, has no political agenda, is not tied to a political party, has no defacto political power, and cannot be removed when the ruling party feels like replacing them. It is a safeguard against corruption.

    There’s a reason British, Scandinavian and Benelux monarchs are popular and well liked among their citizens.

    It’s funny- despite being monarchies, which many see as an oppressive non-democratic system, these countries are actually ranked as among the highest on democracy indexes and lowest on corruption indexes.

  36. I live in one of those, as my user name spoils.

    I think very few swedes care much eitherway, the royal family know better than to hold an oppinion in public. They smile, wave and cut ribbons and that is pretty much it. I dont think anyone could argue that they do much harm, old people like them and they are good for tourism.

    With that said I could see monarchy going the day the king/queen dies without a clear heir. I very much doubt we would import one from France this time around ^^

  38. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Belgium, United Kingdom and Spain will and shall prevail, amen

    They’ve stood the test of time for over a century and will do it for millenniums!, now they shall continue to traverse it until the end of times!

  39. Monarchies that are left in Europe have survived all the turmoils and chaos and scandals so I think they will still exist in future.

  41. Don’t know in 100 years but I can tell that, in 2023, none of the monarchies of that map is a dictatorship or authoritarian regime.

    Can’t say the same about the republics.

  42. The current ones are all constitutional monarchies (except Vatican), the monarch has only symbolic power as the head of state and all the actual political power is in the hands of the elected legislature. There’s basically two ways any of those could turn into republics:

    1. The current monarch dies without issue (i.e. heir). I severely doubt that if, e.g. Willie and all of her daughters died in a freak unicycling accident, the Dutch would go looking for some second cousin twice removed to crown. They’d be like “fuck it, we’ll just elect a president”.
    2. The monarch attempts to grab some actual political power. Unless this happens after the populace elects a monarchist party with overwhelming majority (rather unlikely), the legislature would quickly dethrone them (and maybe give them a nice little pension if they are feeling generous enough).

    Neither of these are particularly likely to happen in the next century or so, so I think these countries (or states if the EU goes federal) will still be monarchies.

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