They stole it from us! Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false!
Picture looks more like fat chebureki
Unfortunately they steal and assign things as their made. Same as vodka.
They illegally annexed it, just like they did with Crimea
Thanks god we did not end our war with Japan, time to get into rosomak.
It appears you’re playing Cooking Mama on DS or some other Nintendo console.. well first of all it’s just a mistake, some Japanese devs confused Poland with Russia. This is possible because especially 20 years ago when this game was released people didn’t care that much about our region and couldn’t tell a difference. I doubt you’d be able to tell difference and associate many Asian dishes correctly either.
Also, dumplings quite literally excist everywhere in the world. Russia does too. Perhaps they just thought Russia is easier for the gamer to relate to or they didn’t have Polish flag and thought Russian one is good enough for their case.
The last thing I’d do is to start assuming this is some covert Russian propaganda in 20 year old Japanese game.
so tl;dr somebody made a mistake
Wasn’t it a Georgian recipe? Completely innocent question, I really don’t know.
Never, it’s cultural appropriation.
I think it is a comon dish from the central/eastern slavic world. the “ruskie pierogi” actualy refer to the ruthene people that were living in an aera accros multiple current slavic countries.
Never. Whoever designed the game is getting a visit from the Underground State.
Seems like case of machine translation and lack of understanding.
There is Pierogi ruskie, which machine will most likely translate to Russian Pierogi.
But in fact those are Ukrainian Pierogi.
Ukraine was called Ruś or Ruś Kijowska. as opposed to Rosja.
Sadly ruskie can mean both russian and ukrainian
This is certain act of war!
it’s like North Korea where they “invented” the Burrito
Had to be sanctioned by Putin before publishing.
Has Russia gone far enough yet?
Russia takes claim of a lot of stuff it didn’t do. Vodka and Pierogi for example.
The same day Borsh became russian, they never did.
Russia as a country can only really claim they invented new levels of poverty and misery. Basically everything else they pride themself with has been taken from one of the countries they so love to invade.
It’s different from the Polish “Pierogi” which is a specific dish. This one is not included in the list of Russian pies.
There are two versions of “pierogi” in the world
1) pierogi in Poland are something like dumplings (“warieniki” in russian)
2) pierogi in Russia are more like “Paszteciki” in Poland
That thing on the picture seems like second version of pierogi
Vareniki are truly traditional Russian dishes.
But Russians do not claim to have invented them.
It is important to understand that “traditional” does not mean that these dishes were invented by Russians or are prepared exclusively in Russia.
“Traditional” means that they are prepared en masse.
For example, pelmeni are also a traditional Russian dish. About two hundred years. At the same time, we know that pelmeni appeared in China. At the same time, Chinese pelmeni taste different from Russian ones.
Borscht is a traditional Russian dish. Although it is prepared in all Slavic countries. And the recipes may differ slightly.
Suvorov brought pasta to Russia from Italy. And the famous Russian “naval pasta” was brought by Russian sailors from Naples. Ziti alla Genovese and “naval pasta” are similar in appearance, although there are differences.
Wódka was also invented in Poland.
Russia steals stuff and calls it theirs historically speaking.
Either wrong flag or wrong name of the dish.
The first written records of vodka in Russia are something along the lines of “ a flavorless medicinal tonic imported from Poland”.
Im a now retired beverage director of some world known spots, it was my job to know this. I cant speak to accuracy, or if records were lost or anything like that, but that is in fact the first documented mention of vodka in Russia.
No, they didnt invent distilling, but distillation was also not really used for drinking in Mesopotamia 6000 years before and then for example Persia after that. The Middle East used it predominantly for perfumes, tinctures and such. Not to say no one drank it, but its purpose was not what would be called a “drinking spirit”
There is a case to be made for Russia in terms of filtration. Whereas Poland leaned into the apothecary values of it (which were really just, hey man, this shit gets me drunk and all my problems are better, this is medicine) and often flavored it, Russia would claim the first documented filtration of vodka, which helps bring it closer to the spirit we call vodka today. Not to say that polish vodkas were unrefined, or that they didnt make clear vodka (the clear version is the one outlined in Russian literature), the Russians did in fact appoint it as “bread wine” and made it a drink of the people, whereas in Poland people were already consuming it as such regularly without any official decree. The polish for the most part preferred mead over vodka, but the medicinal angles led to infusions such as żubrówka that led to that taking on mead in a big way.. all that before vodka became a topic in Russia.
Pierogi is a polish term, but the dish is generally Slavic in no way exclusive to Poland. Russians call them пельмени(pielmeni) or вареники(varehniki), the later having meat stuffing.
Ukrainians and Belarusians make them as well.
As a Polish I can’t defend that pierogi is only polish dish, our cuisine is a mix of western and eastern dishes, and you can’t just say a dish is exact from one culture, like Italian kitchen didn’t use tomatoes until like 16/17 century, mixing of cultures it is what’s makes our world better
It seems like countries all over the world have some version of a pierogi anyways so why care.
there are no true polish dishes, most of polish cuisine is just what was introduced to us via the partitions or generally what was “absorbed” in terms of culture from our neighbours
pierogi are ukrainian, kotlet schabowy is austrian, paczki are german, etc etc
Pierogi are a thing everywhere over the world. They can be russian, chinese, spanish – it doesn’t really make a difference
Dumplings are known under many names around the world, pierogi aren’t special in any way.
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They stole it from us! Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false!
Picture looks more like fat chebureki
Unfortunately they steal and assign things as their made. Same as vodka.
They illegally annexed it, just like they did with Crimea
Thanks god we did not end our war with Japan, time to get into rosomak.
It appears you’re playing Cooking Mama on DS or some other Nintendo console.. well first of all it’s just a mistake, some Japanese devs confused Poland with Russia. This is possible because especially 20 years ago when this game was released people didn’t care that much about our region and couldn’t tell a difference. I doubt you’d be able to tell difference and associate many Asian dishes correctly either.
Also, dumplings quite literally excist everywhere in the world. Russia does too. Perhaps they just thought Russia is easier for the gamer to relate to or they didn’t have Polish flag and thought Russian one is good enough for their case.
The last thing I’d do is to start assuming this is some covert Russian propaganda in 20 year old Japanese game.
so tl;dr somebody made a mistake
Wasn’t it a Georgian recipe? Completely innocent question, I really don’t know.
Never, it’s cultural appropriation.
I think it is a comon dish from the central/eastern slavic world. the “ruskie pierogi” actualy refer to the ruthene people that were living in an aera accros multiple current slavic countries.
Never. Whoever designed the game is getting a visit from the Underground State.
Seems like case of machine translation and lack of understanding.
There is Pierogi ruskie, which machine will most likely translate to Russian Pierogi.
But in fact those are Ukrainian Pierogi.
Ukraine was called Ruś or Ruś Kijowska. as opposed to Rosja.
Sadly ruskie can mean both russian and ukrainian
This is certain act of war!
it’s like North Korea where they “invented” the Burrito
Had to be sanctioned by Putin before publishing.
Has Russia gone far enough yet?
Russia takes claim of a lot of stuff it didn’t do. Vodka and Pierogi for example.
The same day Borsh became russian, they never did.
Russia as a country can only really claim they invented new levels of poverty and misery. Basically everything else they pride themself with has been taken from one of the countries they so love to invade.
https://preview.redd.it/frtwm4x6d52f1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=112cfdb618cdc036ca4e87d9b4248b934f5ee46e
No appropriation or occupation going on here.
Pirogi (Пироги) in Russian means “pies”.
All sorts of them. You can see [HERE](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=49f8345e411de2b2&sxsrf=AHTn8zpe7VXe-Qw0-2a9OyXo2lNRlQAuYw:1747838127998&q=%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8&udm=2&fbs=ABzOT_CWdhQLP1FcmU5B0fn3xuWpA-dk4wpBWOGsoR7DG5zJBjLjqIC1CYKD9D-DQAQS3Z5nkcztToAJskUTzgzygXUcD6pDyZ9PslXTjJ0AKdbad9nX9lkLc8cLJ_SjXvmWNA_AU4usWFUbopUBH-eja4FbG0Gp6prlNwDvBMyYNrWApDAxLdUY4CjMhsh-XZiCK-A8l8Ny&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwil7_m15LSNAxX50QIHHVWrAy8QtKgLegQIHxAB&biw=1820&bih=1269#vhid=tKQr8IxvDKoekM&vssid=mosaic).
It’s different from the Polish “Pierogi” which is a specific dish. This one is not included in the list of Russian pies.
There are two versions of “pierogi” in the world
1) pierogi in Poland are something like dumplings (“warieniki” in russian)
2) pierogi in Russia are more like “Paszteciki” in Poland
That thing on the picture seems like second version of pierogi
Vareniki are truly traditional Russian dishes.
But Russians do not claim to have invented them.
It is important to understand that “traditional” does not mean that these dishes were invented by Russians or are prepared exclusively in Russia.
“Traditional” means that they are prepared en masse.
For example, pelmeni are also a traditional Russian dish. About two hundred years. At the same time, we know that pelmeni appeared in China. At the same time, Chinese pelmeni taste different from Russian ones.
Borscht is a traditional Russian dish. Although it is prepared in all Slavic countries. And the recipes may differ slightly.
Suvorov brought pasta to Russia from Italy. And the famous Russian “naval pasta” was brought by Russian sailors from Naples. Ziti alla Genovese and “naval pasta” are similar in appearance, although there are differences.
Wódka was also invented in Poland.
Russia steals stuff and calls it theirs historically speaking.
Either wrong flag or wrong name of the dish.
The first written records of vodka in Russia are something along the lines of “ a flavorless medicinal tonic imported from Poland”.
Im a now retired beverage director of some world known spots, it was my job to know this. I cant speak to accuracy, or if records were lost or anything like that, but that is in fact the first documented mention of vodka in Russia.
No, they didnt invent distilling, but distillation was also not really used for drinking in Mesopotamia 6000 years before and then for example Persia after that. The Middle East used it predominantly for perfumes, tinctures and such. Not to say no one drank it, but its purpose was not what would be called a “drinking spirit”
There is a case to be made for Russia in terms of filtration. Whereas Poland leaned into the apothecary values of it (which were really just, hey man, this shit gets me drunk and all my problems are better, this is medicine) and often flavored it, Russia would claim the first documented filtration of vodka, which helps bring it closer to the spirit we call vodka today. Not to say that polish vodkas were unrefined, or that they didnt make clear vodka (the clear version is the one outlined in Russian literature), the Russians did in fact appoint it as “bread wine” and made it a drink of the people, whereas in Poland people were already consuming it as such regularly without any official decree. The polish for the most part preferred mead over vodka, but the medicinal angles led to infusions such as żubrówka that led to that taking on mead in a big way.. all that before vodka became a topic in Russia.
Pierogi is a polish term, but the dish is generally Slavic in no way exclusive to Poland. Russians call them пельмени(pielmeni) or вареники(varehniki), the later having meat stuffing.
Ukrainians and Belarusians make them as well.
As a Polish I can’t defend that pierogi is only polish dish, our cuisine is a mix of western and eastern dishes, and you can’t just say a dish is exact from one culture, like Italian kitchen didn’t use tomatoes until like 16/17 century, mixing of cultures it is what’s makes our world better
It seems like countries all over the world have some version of a pierogi anyways so why care.
there are no true polish dishes, most of polish cuisine is just what was introduced to us via the partitions or generally what was “absorbed” in terms of culture from our neighbours
pierogi are ukrainian, kotlet schabowy is austrian, paczki are german, etc etc
Pierogi are a thing everywhere over the world. They can be russian, chinese, spanish – it doesn’t really make a difference
Dumplings are known under many names around the world, pierogi aren’t special in any way.
….and that was how the war started.
maybe they meant vareniki
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