British doctors chasing jobs will get priority over foreigners

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1. I don’t believe it. The UK Government want to support its native population before foreigners?!

   What’s next? Are you going to tell me that native born people who are homeless get priority for housing?

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3. Hardly radical when this is standard policy across most parts of the world? Yet if we do it it’s supposedly ‘racist’ or ‘discrimination’. There is no shame in putting UK nationals first, they are here for the long haul. Foreigners can go home if things don’t work out.

4. That this is a headline or news is absolutely outrageous

5. You could almost say, British jobs for British workers

6. Maybe they should convince British people to stay in the NHS by not overworking them and rubbing salt in the wound by underpaying them (well hopefully the recent pay rise announced recently will help). My uncle worked in the NHS but he left to work for Marie curie instead because of how bad it was for him.

   It should be due to merit but also many jobs will prioritise British nationals due to not every job being able to sponsor immigrants.

7. And the details of the article for those of us who don’t pay for the times??

8. I thought the right were all about merit over other factors like gender, race, nationality…

9. I dont get this, I thought the NHS was understaffed in general? were qualified people struggling to get jobs there?

   In my mind the situation was that there werent enough native qualified workers, so all the UK qualified people were already getting hired relatively easily and immigration was used to fill the skills gap

   and if thats the case then this policy is just a media moment that doesnt really change anything

10. Shockingly this comes under a Labour government, yet all those saying finally in here voted Tory for the past 14 years.

    Don’t cry about it when you enabled it in the first place.

11. As if foreign doctors were ever a fucking problem to begin with. WE NEED AS MANY DOCTORS AS POSSIBLE.

12. It’s British *trained* doctor that will get priority and for speciality training slots.

    British trained Doctors should on average outcompete foreign applicants for these roles anyway. Because they should already understand the UK hospital and NHS system.

13. So currently the situation for UK medical graduates is dire.

    Once you have completed medical school (5-6 years) you then do a further 2 years of ‘Foundation training’ where you work as a fully qualified doctor and experience different areas of medicine and surgery.

    You then apply for ‘Specialty training’ in your area(s) of choice. e.g. Psychiatry, General Practice, Radiology, Anaesthetics and train for a further 3-9 years. This process happens once a year. If you don’t get a ‘training post’ then you are unemployed until next year unless you can find a short term post at another hospital, or do short term ‘locum’ shifts, essentially on a zero hours contract.

    The competition for these jobs has gone up insanely high since 2019. That is because the NHS had to prioritise UK or EU doctors before recruiting from the rest of the world. In 2019 the government added doctors to the shortage occupation list, which meant that a candidate from Nigeria, Pakistan, India or any other country is able to apply for these coveted training posts with exactly the same prioritisation as a UK graduate.

    When I started training in 2019 the competition for my specialty was 3:1. It is now 12:1.

    So you can have a UK medical school graduate with £100,000 in student debt apply for a training post, and lose out to someone who trained in a country with free or cheap medical school.

    So you can have a decent UK qualified doctor apply for a post, but it instead gets awarded to someone who trained abroad. The UK doctor is then unemployed or underemployed, and the overseas doctor then imports their wife and 2 young children as non-working dependents.

    It’s hard to make this argument without being accused of racism or xenophobia. I work in a department which is 80% doctors who qualified overseas, and have a major appreciation for them. However, we are now in a position where there is no shortage of UK trained doctors applying for jobs, so it seems crazy to import international doctors and leave UK ones on the dole.

14. I’m sure the government will pay to train more British doctors, right?

15. Doctors, the kind of people who usually struggle finding jobs /s

16. Good news.
    But we do have a hungry populace of eager healers waiting to enter the fray.

    Modern-day soldiers, if you ask me.
    Go on, ask me.

17. Right, considering this isn’t being screamed down as racism.

    British some come before other nationals for all jobs, including education, housing and support, you ensure our own citizen is helped before all others.

    That isn’t racism, as British isn’t just one race.

18. It isn’t “British” doctors, it is British-trained doctors. Those who have had their medical schooling in the UK, regardless of nationality or citizenship. The UK training is some of the best in the world and the NHS invests in that, therefore it should be those who get to be doctors as priority.

19. That is how it works in USA and in Europe. So it should be in Britain too. Otherwise, I would ask the other countries to scrap their work visas and work permits, in order to give british people equal opportunities. At the moment, it’s just not fair that getting a good job abroad is so difficult to obtain due to visa and such, while there are so many additional qualified folk being invited in and flooding the job market. It’s a government that is opressing their citizens with pressure from over supply of workers.

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