What’s the attraction to build in unionist areas when they just chase anyone out that’s either an immigrant or from a nationalist/catholic background?
If a developer wants to build they want to be able to sell or rent their properties.
I know it’s probably not even close to 10% of the population of these areas that cause these problems but until the other 90% sort out the 10% or so causing the trouble then it’s never going to be an attractive proposition to build there.
Over 80 bonfire spots, eh? Impressive.
How many of those sites are traditional bonfire sites?
Sandy Row for example has a big sign like that in a waste ground where they’re currently building a bonfire.
Given the extra difficulties around bonfire sites and developers. It’s hardly surprising
My first guess would be profit margin.
Why build in an area with low house values when you can build the same house in a different area and get 50% more?
Social houses aren’t going to fill 3300 spots either. We barely build 1000 across the country, and that’s with 65% of the Communities capital budget going on social homes.
Chronic underfunding and limited ways of fixing it as a result of being ruled from Britain. Also certain parties in government for whom poverty and homelessness are just not priorities.
Demand for housing in the Shankill is lower than anywhere else in West Belfast. If social housing is being built on the basis of need, it’ll be behind lots of nearby districts in the queue.
The area has been neglected appallingly, and it’s in all of our interests that it improves, but to do that the community needs to help itself. The collective errors it repeatedly makes come with consequences.
Deep down, Shankill doesn’t even want new builds in their area as it will attract more pesky Taigs to their estates.
Their local community workers and their vast support within the Shankill. We all know what I’m making reference to.
If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you’ve always got.
The same people who put the banner will be looking for protection money from developers and burning out diggers if not paid.
Politicians..yes partially. But the locals have to take some responsibility for the lack of investment in these areas. Proximity to bonfires, murals, areas covered in flags and painted curbs would turn off most outsiders.
I’m just going to say it straight, it’s a loyalist ghetto , no contractors want the grief of having to pay protection money and the houses not selling because they are a bunch of bitter cunts that live there and will burn out anyone that isn’t their ma’s sisters niece.
The thing Ive Always wondered, is will they ever build big apartment blocks ever again?
It’s something that has been discussed before, and due to the shambolic way they built apartments/flats years ago, everyone is put off by them.
It’s a compromise for sure, and the general consensus is to move away from that type of housing and accommodation, but they can’t just keep building out, land area to build isn’t finite. I think most people see the necessity to have green spaces, it can’t just be an urban jungle either.
It is a difficult question that authorities and planners are going to have to face in the future, to have good quality housing/accommodation that is affordable, while maximising the space to build.
Plenty of cities all around the UK and all around Europe have a greater proportion of apartments, from what I’ve seen.
I’m not saying it’s the way to go, and there is the whole “anti social” image that blocks of flats brings, but it can’t just be blindly dismissed in an urban environment.
There’s no demand for houses in this area
If all of these waste sites were to be built on, are they safe to be built on?
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What’s the attraction to build in unionist areas when they just chase anyone out that’s either an immigrant or from a nationalist/catholic background?
If a developer wants to build they want to be able to sell or rent their properties.
I know it’s probably not even close to 10% of the population of these areas that cause these problems but until the other 90% sort out the 10% or so causing the trouble then it’s never going to be an attractive proposition to build there.
Over 80 bonfire spots, eh? Impressive.
How many of those sites are traditional bonfire sites?
Sandy Row for example has a big sign like that in a waste ground where they’re currently building a bonfire.
Given the extra difficulties around bonfire sites and developers. It’s hardly surprising
My first guess would be profit margin.
Why build in an area with low house values when you can build the same house in a different area and get 50% more?
Social houses aren’t going to fill 3300 spots either. We barely build 1000 across the country, and that’s with 65% of the Communities capital budget going on social homes.
https://preview.redd.it/9u19htpvrr4f1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ed426ae130ccb63eca67c4723a425fab8251bf9
You get what you vote for
Chronic underfunding and limited ways of fixing it as a result of being ruled from Britain. Also certain parties in government for whom poverty and homelessness are just not priorities.
Demand for housing in the Shankill is lower than anywhere else in West Belfast. If social housing is being built on the basis of need, it’ll be behind lots of nearby districts in the queue.
The area has been neglected appallingly, and it’s in all of our interests that it improves, but to do that the community needs to help itself. The collective errors it repeatedly makes come with consequences.
Deep down, Shankill doesn’t even want new builds in their area as it will attract more pesky Taigs to their estates.
Their local community workers and their vast support within the Shankill. We all know what I’m making reference to.
If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you’ve always got.
https://preview.redd.it/7mpy7kbi2s4f1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef5db1fb86f2843a69967967cc3a79b581dda838
QR code, huh?
The same people who put the banner will be looking for protection money from developers and burning out diggers if not paid.
Politicians..yes partially. But the locals have to take some responsibility for the lack of investment in these areas. Proximity to bonfires, murals, areas covered in flags and painted curbs would turn off most outsiders.
I’m just going to say it straight, it’s a loyalist ghetto , no contractors want the grief of having to pay protection money and the houses not selling because they are a bunch of bitter cunts that live there and will burn out anyone that isn’t their ma’s sisters niece.
The thing Ive Always wondered, is will they ever build big apartment blocks ever again?
It’s something that has been discussed before, and due to the shambolic way they built apartments/flats years ago, everyone is put off by them.
It’s a compromise for sure, and the general consensus is to move away from that type of housing and accommodation, but they can’t just keep building out, land area to build isn’t finite. I think most people see the necessity to have green spaces, it can’t just be an urban jungle either.
It is a difficult question that authorities and planners are going to have to face in the future, to have good quality housing/accommodation that is affordable, while maximising the space to build.
Plenty of cities all around the UK and all around Europe have a greater proportion of apartments, from what I’ve seen.
I’m not saying it’s the way to go, and there is the whole “anti social” image that blocks of flats brings, but it can’t just be blindly dismissed in an urban environment.
There’s no demand for houses in this area
If all of these waste sites were to be built on, are they safe to be built on?
Yes. Them and solicitors.
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