Requiring UN approval is impractical in 2025. We can remain militarily neutral and make decisions without it
Giving a sole member of the UNSC or any other foreign assembly veto power over how to deploy our own troops is not neutrality. See Gardaí in Kyiv and maximum of 12 troops deployable to Sudan at short notice for details. Current plan to raise that to 50, hardly warmongers territory.
Relying on a foreign power to police your airspace is not neutrality. See Switzerland, Austria and formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland.
Frankly, not sure if he understands what he is campaigning for. Would genuinely love to hear his solutions to those shortcomings.
Was tracking the boat, on ship radar thingy, seems they have turned of their epirb, as it’s no longer visible interesting note mind there is a Spanish naval ship, about 200 miles east of them, wonder if the Spanish are having a look in.
He said this at a People Before Profit event? When PBP vociferously opposed sanctions against Russia they were siding with the worst warmongers in the world today. I don’t disagree with him about Gaza one iota though.
Personally I think relying on the UN security council is being subservient to the warmongers, but that’s just my opinion.
Actors’ fame gives them a disproportionate representation, when in reality their political stance can be just as uninformed as anyone’s. It’s really not worth listening to.
This guys getting exhausting.
“I do not want to see this country that I adore being sold down the swanny so the boys across the road here can have their jobs with whatever commission or whatever when they’re finally extricated from Government.”
It’s hard to disagree that some political actors and officials pushing for the end of neutrality and the military spending spree have effectively been bought and paid for with the promise/expectation of well-paid makey uppy jobs and roles.
No fear that they will ever be conscripted or sent to war.
I agree with Cunningham’s assertion that whatever is being determined for this countries military future, it needs to go to a referendum and be put black and white in the constitution.
On a final note I dislike people before profit. How they jump on every bandwagon and there are effectively a glorified students union type party but they are on the right side of this particular issue. Outside of Dublin their councillors and representatives can say very little because commonsense conflicts with central party policy.
I am surprised that the likes of Sinn Fein and other large opposition parties haven’t jumped all over this. It’s the type of thing that would paint them in a more favourable public light after all of the blunders of the past year.
I suspect he’ll turn out to have moronic views on Russia.
Ireland isn’t neutral. Ireland just doesn’t want to face the consequences of its lack of neutrality.
If Ireland wants to be neutral it should look at how countries like Switzerland do it.
As a country we can’t go shouting our mouths off every week and expect others to defend us.
These people don’t seem to have trust in our democratically elected government to rule our DF. Why would we allow Russia or indeed the UK to veto deployments of our troops. We are a sovereign nation.
In any case our Defence Forces are unfortunately minuscule so the whole thing is moot really. It just seems like distraction politics from real problems here at home. These people seem to be obsessed. I just cannot understand it.
He wants to retain the triple lock but also accuses Ireland of siding with war mongers.
Doesn’t he realise the triple lock forces us to side with the likes of Russia or China or the US when it comes to making foreign policy decisions?
Liam is siding with the idea of preventing what should be our sovereign decision.
It’s passingly odd that our formalised neutrality – boasted as an expression of autonomy by those keen to keep it – is also entirely beholden to the UNSC. A grouping which includes … ya know, actual warmongers and antagonists themselves. We have no true agency in how we conduct ourselves in global affairs, not sure how this is seen as the superior status quo.
Definition of a useful idiot letting Russia and the US have a veto right. We need to talk about the fake lefts support of Russia against Ukraine and how they continuously amplify Russian talking points under the guise of Palestine.
Lots of people want an increase in military spending. Are you willing to pay for it? I’m not.
I had a look at the video on twitter, does anyone else not find it a bit ironic that the banner behind them saying no to war has the leader of an army on it, an army that took part in an initially unpopular insurrection?
How can he support the triple lock whilst simultaneously saying we should be sending the navy to Gaza with supplies?
We’re not neutral and haven’t been for decades. We have been politically and economically aligned with the EU and it’s predecessors since the 70s, and have a de facto airspace defence alliance with the UK.
Not being in NATO does not equate to being neutral. Switzerland is truly neutral, and has the military means to enforce that neutrality, something we don’t have, hence our reliance on the RAF when threats are detected in our airspace.
It’s frankly embarrassing that we have to do this because we cannot confront the reality that Irish neutrality in 2025 is a myth. Either commit to actual neutrality and have a self-sufficient military that can enforce it like Switzerland, or accept the geopolitical reality that stems from our economic integration with the continent.
Ok, so let’s get this straight. He wants to retain the triple lock to keep our young men and women of the DF out of war.
But wants to sail our naval service into a warzone (which is not possible with the Triple Lock) which would inevitably see a nuclear power taking shots at us.
Liam, you’re a prize blockhead.
How come when the oppressed fight back to defend themselves they are labelled warmongers or somehow desiring war or conflict? Ukraine and Gaza the most obvious…
How do these people, take even the smallest glance at recent history and not realise aggressive states like Russia rarely stop the violence on their own accord?? They actually seem to believe laying down and accepting tyranny is the way of ‘peace’ – no it’s the way of slavery, oppression and in the worst examples – genocide.
I’m a huge fan of Liam Cunningham ‘s acting: he was phenomenal in Game of Thrones, Wind That Shakes the Barley and the Guard. Likewise, I’ve serious respect for him for his humanitarian activism like the Gaza flotilla.
I’m dubious about stuff like this: he’s an actor so I dunno why anyone would listen to him on something as complicated as Irish foreign policy and the running of the United Nations.
Giving Trump or Putin control over our foreign policy is definitely not in keeping with our neutrality. As much as the faux neutrality brigade love to go on about the UN General Assembly, it’s only been invovled in a single peacekeeping mission 70 years ago, and that was one where it operated with the consent of the host state, meaning the UNGA’s role was more administrative. Even if the UNGA did have a role, I don’t see why we should leave our foreign policy subject to the whims of Saudi Arabia or North Korea.
As an aside, I’ll never understand the faux neutrality crowd’s insistence that the government are militaristic and aiding with warmongers when our Defence Forces has been in ran into the ground to the point of barely being operational, even in it’s limited role.
Does this campaign back a heavily armed modern military if they win? Because if you look around most of the present and recently neutral nations of Europe have militaries and arms industries to back up those militaries in the event they have to defend sovereignty.
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Requiring UN approval is impractical in 2025. We can remain militarily neutral and make decisions without it
Giving a sole member of the UNSC or any other foreign assembly veto power over how to deploy our own troops is not neutrality. See Gardaí in Kyiv and maximum of 12 troops deployable to Sudan at short notice for details. Current plan to raise that to 50, hardly warmongers territory.
Relying on a foreign power to police your airspace is not neutrality. See Switzerland, Austria and formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland.
Frankly, not sure if he understands what he is campaigning for. Would genuinely love to hear his solutions to those shortcomings.
Was tracking the boat, on ship radar thingy, seems they have turned of their epirb, as it’s no longer visible interesting note mind there is a Spanish naval ship, about 200 miles east of them, wonder if the Spanish are having a look in.
[https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/224972000](https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/224972000)
He said this at a People Before Profit event? When PBP vociferously opposed sanctions against Russia they were siding with the worst warmongers in the world today. I don’t disagree with him about Gaza one iota though.
Personally I think relying on the UN security council is being subservient to the warmongers, but that’s just my opinion.
Actors’ fame gives them a disproportionate representation, when in reality their political stance can be just as uninformed as anyone’s. It’s really not worth listening to.
This guys getting exhausting.
“I do not want to see this country that I adore being sold down the swanny so the boys across the road here can have their jobs with whatever commission or whatever when they’re finally extricated from Government.”
It’s hard to disagree that some political actors and officials pushing for the end of neutrality and the military spending spree have effectively been bought and paid for with the promise/expectation of well-paid makey uppy jobs and roles.
No fear that they will ever be conscripted or sent to war.
I agree with Cunningham’s assertion that whatever is being determined for this countries military future, it needs to go to a referendum and be put black and white in the constitution.
On a final note I dislike people before profit. How they jump on every bandwagon and there are effectively a glorified students union type party but they are on the right side of this particular issue. Outside of Dublin their councillors and representatives can say very little because commonsense conflicts with central party policy.
I am surprised that the likes of Sinn Fein and other large opposition parties haven’t jumped all over this. It’s the type of thing that would paint them in a more favourable public light after all of the blunders of the past year.
I suspect he’ll turn out to have moronic views on Russia.
Ireland isn’t neutral. Ireland just doesn’t want to face the consequences of its lack of neutrality.
If Ireland wants to be neutral it should look at how countries like Switzerland do it.
As a country we can’t go shouting our mouths off every week and expect others to defend us.
These people don’t seem to have trust in our democratically elected government to rule our DF. Why would we allow Russia or indeed the UK to veto deployments of our troops. We are a sovereign nation.
In any case our Defence Forces are unfortunately minuscule so the whole thing is moot really. It just seems like distraction politics from real problems here at home. These people seem to be obsessed. I just cannot understand it.
He wants to retain the triple lock but also accuses Ireland of siding with war mongers.
Doesn’t he realise the triple lock forces us to side with the likes of Russia or China or the US when it comes to making foreign policy decisions?
Liam is siding with the idea of preventing what should be our sovereign decision.
It’s passingly odd that our formalised neutrality – boasted as an expression of autonomy by those keen to keep it – is also entirely beholden to the UNSC. A grouping which includes … ya know, actual warmongers and antagonists themselves. We have no true agency in how we conduct ourselves in global affairs, not sure how this is seen as the superior status quo.
Definition of a useful idiot letting Russia and the US have a veto right. We need to talk about the fake lefts support of Russia against Ukraine and how they continuously amplify Russian talking points under the guise of Palestine.
Lots of people want an increase in military spending. Are you willing to pay for it? I’m not.
I had a look at the video on twitter, does anyone else not find it a bit ironic that the banner behind them saying no to war has the leader of an army on it, an army that took part in an initially unpopular insurrection?
How can he support the triple lock whilst simultaneously saying we should be sending the navy to Gaza with supplies?
We’re not neutral and haven’t been for decades. We have been politically and economically aligned with the EU and it’s predecessors since the 70s, and have a de facto airspace defence alliance with the UK.
Not being in NATO does not equate to being neutral. Switzerland is truly neutral, and has the military means to enforce that neutrality, something we don’t have, hence our reliance on the RAF when threats are detected in our airspace.
It’s frankly embarrassing that we have to do this because we cannot confront the reality that Irish neutrality in 2025 is a myth. Either commit to actual neutrality and have a self-sufficient military that can enforce it like Switzerland, or accept the geopolitical reality that stems from our economic integration with the continent.
Ok, so let’s get this straight. He wants to retain the triple lock to keep our young men and women of the DF out of war.
But wants to sail our naval service into a warzone (which is not possible with the Triple Lock) which would inevitably see a nuclear power taking shots at us.
Liam, you’re a prize blockhead.
How come when the oppressed fight back to defend themselves they are labelled warmongers or somehow desiring war or conflict? Ukraine and Gaza the most obvious…
How do these people, take even the smallest glance at recent history and not realise aggressive states like Russia rarely stop the violence on their own accord?? They actually seem to believe laying down and accepting tyranny is the way of ‘peace’ – no it’s the way of slavery, oppression and in the worst examples – genocide.
I’m a huge fan of Liam Cunningham ‘s acting: he was phenomenal in Game of Thrones, Wind That Shakes the Barley and the Guard. Likewise, I’ve serious respect for him for his humanitarian activism like the Gaza flotilla.
I’m dubious about stuff like this: he’s an actor so I dunno why anyone would listen to him on something as complicated as Irish foreign policy and the running of the United Nations.
Giving Trump or Putin control over our foreign policy is definitely not in keeping with our neutrality. As much as the faux neutrality brigade love to go on about the UN General Assembly, it’s only been invovled in a single peacekeeping mission 70 years ago, and that was one where it operated with the consent of the host state, meaning the UNGA’s role was more administrative. Even if the UNGA did have a role, I don’t see why we should leave our foreign policy subject to the whims of Saudi Arabia or North Korea.
As an aside, I’ll never understand the faux neutrality crowd’s insistence that the government are militaristic and aiding with warmongers when our Defence Forces has been in ran into the ground to the point of barely being operational, even in it’s limited role.
Does this campaign back a heavily armed modern military if they win? Because if you look around most of the present and recently neutral nations of Europe have militaries and arms industries to back up those militaries in the event they have to defend sovereignty.
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