Israel providing guns to Gaza jihadist gang to bolster opposition to Hamas

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1. > This is not the first time that Netanyahu has been involved in or accused of propping up burgeoning militias and terror groups to undermine a common enemy. Various reports over the years have indicated that Israel’s policy under Netanyahu was to treat Hamas as an asset that could be used to weaken the Palestinian Authority.

   It’s amazing how many terrorist organizations have been backed by Western governments at some point in time. And of course it always backfires.

2. These guys live in a red zone in a fortified base. They go out and extort aid truck drivers and steal aid routed through traditional channels. To me, this looks like an attempt to strategically loot UN aid distribution leaving only the GHF as the only reliable source of food in the strip. When large numbers of people starve to death the Israelis will blame Hamas for looting trucks or blame the UN for being ineffective at distributing the aid, while the looting was done under the protection of the IDF.

3. Kinda surprised that it’s The Times Of Israel reporting this, they’re usually promoting Zionism not undermining it like this.

   Why is Israel doing genocide and collaborating with ISIS?

   Is this going to be similar to how they funded and helped boost Hamas?

   I don’t understand.

4. Craziness.

   Israel actually first helped Hamas establish itself:

   “Former Israeli officials have openly acknowledged Israel’s role in providing funding and assistance to Yassin’s network [which became Hamas] as a means of undermining the secular, left-wing Palestinian factions that made up the PLO”

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

   And in the last decade Netanyahu funded Hamas to continue to undermine the Palestinian Authority and prevent a 2-state solution, although that didn’t go very well:

   “For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
   The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from.”

   https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

5. This sub when TOI posts something that makes Israel loo good: “100% zionist propaganda, TOI is a paid hasbara shill”

   This sub when Times of Israel posts something that makes Israel look bad: “I live for this”

6. Absolutely unreal.

   So whenever Israel were blaming Hamas for looting aid convoys and using that as a justification for starving the entire strip, it was actually Israel’s armed and supported jihadist gangs. 

   This Israeli regime is completely out of control.

7. I wonder what Palestinians think about joining a group like that.

   Like, it happened with Hamas and now it’ll happen with this one.

   Why do you join?

   When you go to war with Israel, another shitty group will appear to replace you.

8. The prophetic destruction of Israel already happened. Israel was a word meaning roughly “the rule of god”. Creating a nation named after it destroyed that concept in the mind of the word by replacing it with a nation state.

   That said this has to be one of the worst decisions since the US aided ISIS to destabilize the middle east.

9. Israel, the US, the UK, and France have a long history of helping and funding radical jihadist groups in MENA countries (usually against secular regimes). This isn’t anything new.

10. They’ve been doing this for a while now. Gnna admit I’m lazy to find the sources now but Israel had been using clans in Gaza to oppose Hamas.

    I think the idea of using those clans to administer aid had been floated about in the past so it’s funny (not funny) to see actually those clans were doing the opposite. I hadn’t read about them being deliberately armed, although Israel funding anti-Hamas militias in Gaza is like… yeah I might even be surprised if they weren’t.

    Also read (again lazy to find sources) that some of the gunfights involving Hamas and “civilians” were actually clashes with these clans over control in certain areas. Wouldn’t surprise me if Israel have clashed with those clans too inadvertently, cos at the end of the day with Hamas un uniformed ur probably gonna think any looters are Hamas

    Maybe Israel will make the argument that stealing stolen aid from Hamas is actually a good thing? Crime families have a strange way of being heroes in communities they control, whether it’s just PR or through mutual rejection of the establishment

11. The amount of times I’ve seen Zionists argue “oh but Hamas steals food” 

    This is crazy and on point for Israel. Since Israel propped Hamas in the 80s and 90s to counter the PLO at the time. 

12. I first heard about this a week or so ago; I’m surprised Times of Israel of all papers is reporting on it (and that the Israeli government had the fucking audacity to basically admit to it).

    The speed at which the mainstream media (even like, CNN, AP, Reuters, NYT, etc) have been doing a complete 180 from defending Israel tooth-and-nail to turning it into a pariah state internationally practically overnight is shocking, for several reasons. Not only does it demonstrate that they were fully aware of what was going on and still running cover for it the whole time (a repulsive example of manufacturing consent), but it shows how dramatically the media alters public opinion.

    It also raises the question – why now? The answer, I think, is a dangerous one – they know the outcry against the genocide can no longer be contained, so they’re going to try and pin everything on Netanyahu, and act as if everything is magically resolved when he’s gone. Hopefully, the genocide has created such widespread disillusionment with Zionism internationally that this will be ineffective, but there’s a terrifying risk of things going “back to normal”, where Israel continues crushing the Palestinians (slowly) while people act as if nothing is happening.

13. This has got to be the best idea I’ve ever heard

    What could possibly go wrong when arming a terrorist group that is more extreme than the current government. That’s how we managed to save Libya after all

    I say Netanyahu gets a nobel peace prize

14. >Israel providing guns to Gaza jihadist gang to bolster opposition to Hamas

    How American…

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15. Man, I really hope the Hasbaristas get paid extra for all the elaborate mental gymnastics required to justify their narratives and defend their positions.

    So far the spins I have seen:

    They are not ISIS they are Fatah (lol, no)

    We have to give them an alternative (the alternative being ISIS)

16. ah look the terrorist state of Israel creating more terrorists.

    step 1) Arm and fund new gang,
    Step 2) turn on new gang killing the leaders,
    step 3) new gang fights back
    step 4) Israel gets to kill everyone claiming defence

    rinse and repeat until everyone is murdered.

    People forget it the only reason Khamas came into power, was because the terrorist state backed and funded them.

17. > Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu later confirmed the report, saying the move helped save Israeli soldiers’ lives.

    So by that stupid logic giving weapons to Hamas would help save Israeli soldiers’ lives, too.

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