Same reason Putin does, inferiority complex, self hate, physical and mental inadequacies, mental illness, severe lack of education, absence of class and culture, etc.
MAGA hates everything that’s better than the U.S.
They never been there
Europe has been successful where the US wasn’t. They keep their ultracapitalism ideas that has made the richest country in the world to have third world problems.
EU has proven over and over that healthcare, social security, regulations, labour rights and human rights have created a better society. We live longer, we live better. We have educated our children and religiousity is decreasing and people is better for it.
And, because they hate it, they’d rather destroy it all than accept they were wrong.
Because they hate the fact that most of Europe criticizes them and does things against their wishes
The American right has bad-mouthed Europe for decades. It only makes sense: European economies give lie to the oft-made claim by U.S. Republicans that economies with robust social safety nets, sane healthcare systems, strong labor protections, etc. are doomed to fail. Putin and others are taking advantage of this.
Many of them probably don’t even own a passport and just get spoon fed lies from Fox News and Tucker Carlson
They probably would if they knew what it is?
Because we’re (mostly) democracies and that’s a hindrance to Thiel, Curtis Yarvin and other tech oligarch ghouls who want the world to be their own dystopia where they rule over the peasants.
They think Europe has a feast on the expense of Murica.
Because they can strengthen ingroup loyalty that way and liberal democracies are the biggest external threats for an authoritarian regime. MAGA fans also probably like authoritarian regimes and dislike liberal democracies, making it less costly for the regime in terms of domestic support
They don’t like unions.
Because Europe works. US doesn’t.
Because corporate America and billionaires spend a lot to negatively portray Europe. They don’t want more taxes and socialism.
Don’t try to understand ignorant and stupid people
Because most are a bunch of uneducated half brained rednecks who’s so gullible they don’t understand they joined a cult. They certainly have no clue about geography and believe anything their dear leader tells them to believe.
MAGA doesn’t want US workers to realize that they are essentially slaves in the current version of their labour code.
So they paint european countries as failed states communist hell holes and meddle in our politics to get far right idiots who will turn us all into Hungary to make it true.
Because we somewhat value and protect concepts like environment, diversity, privacy and because we prioritise those over capitalism.
Because they are sovereignists, they need enemies to thrive. They also hate us because they cant flood us with their socioeconomic ideas.
That’s it, they just want to expand more and more
same reason russian vatniks do
never seeing issue with own ways+ blaming others for own issues+ messiah complex centered around state (since majority of them have no personal achievements, so state power is their main achievement even if they janitors in said state)+ they have no actual desire to improve they just want hurt others
I’m not sure they all do honestly. Myself I mostly vote conservative, but I have lived in Europe, am married to a German, and back a strong NATO. Of the people that do identify as MAGA that I have interacted with, about half have views like mine, and the others are more neutral. Many are ex-military I believe and are just tired of fighting wars they do not view as in our interests, and many of the places we protect benefit Europe than they do us in the United States. I personally want Europe to be a strong and equal partner, which includes Europe doing more militarily. It just feels wrong that should another war break out if it is my sons going to fight for Europe while many European sons remain untrained and unready, and from polls I have read, unwilling, to defend their own nations.
(My apologies for singling out Germany, it is just I am exposed to Germany more than other nations in Europe. I know some countries like Finland and Poland would fight like hell to defend what is theirs.)
Europe represents what a prosperous and more fair America looks like, Walkable cities, stronger social safety net, universal healthcare, significantly more healthy food, much better work life balance, a more secular population (this one is particularly bothersome to them) etc etc.
A generalization for sure, but all of which are things most maga morons would benefit from. They however have been conditioned by right wing news, funded by billionaires, to believe all of these things are “woke” “socialism” or whatever buzzword on the triggered right winger bingo card they can find. They are told that politicians like AOC, Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders are the enemy, when in reality they are the only honest politicians trying to help them and unfuck our political system.
European countries are obviously not immune from the same plagues we see in the American political system but they have done the work to at least prevent the worst aspects of it from entering their politics. Particularly related to our privatization of healthcare, higher education, our strict two-party political system, and the unlimited campaign spending allowed by Citizens United, courtesy of our Supreme Court. Most importantly if European politicians tried to institute these things, their electorates would be furious and would know how to effectively voice the outrage.
They hate us, cuz they aint us.
I doubt most of them even think about Europe
Europe sees things from a different perspective/angle.
Look at their ‘hatred’ from their perspective if you want to try and understand it, then challenge it.
Don’t just descend into EU good, USA bad (have you learnt nothing from Brexit?).
There are some valid points amongst the general dross that need admitting to. Defence, reliance on Russian fossil fuels, lack of direct action on Ukraine etc.
I’m going to take a bit of a downvote magnet contrarian opinion here, but based on my MAGA family they don’t. They just don’t care. What goes on in Europe has no meaning to them in their daily lives.
While they find a lot of what goes on here bizarre though interesting sometimes, anything that includes the word socialism can be triggering, and of course they are also social conservatives.
One thing I don’t think a lot of Europeans understand over here is that our politics are so binary and polarized that having strong views on certain issues locks you into one side or the other whether you like the rest of that side or not. Rhetoric like this, and all these automatic assumptions of beliefs behind people who voted for Trump only push them further in that direction.
You’d actually be surprised how many really want a lot of what we have over here too. I have a limited sample size though, so you don’t have to take my word for it.
I didn’t want to subscribe to unlock the article. What’s the evidence MAGA world actually gives two shits about Europe?
while the U.S. isn’t cutting checks directly to Europe in most cases, it’s bearing most of the strategic and financial weight in institutions that stabilize and support Europe — especially militarily and during economic crises
Since post world war II, america has been the financial lead in bringing economic prosperity to europe. Maga is a bunch of illiterate smhucks with no education, but the reality is below:
1. 🔰 NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization)
What the U.S. Provides:
• ~70% of NATO’s total defense spending comes from the U.S.
• The U.S. pays about 16% of NATO’s direct budget (admin, infrastructure, etc.)
• U.S. troops, bases, and equipment are stationed across Europe (Germany, Poland, etc.)
Why It Matters:
• This essentially subsidizes European defense, since most EU countries spend less than 2% of GDP on their military (the NATO target).
• The U.S. maintains a security umbrella over Europe, which reduces what Europe needs to spend on its own defense.
✅ Is this a “handout”?
Not in direct cash, but yes — Europe benefits from underpaying for defense, relying on U.S. strategic power.
⸻
2. 💰 IMF (International Monetary Fund)
U.S. Role:
• The U.S. is the largest single contributor to the IMF (~17% of funding).
• The IMF lends money to countries in financial crisis (some in Eastern Europe after 2008).
What Europe Gets:
• IMF aid has gone to:
• Greece, Portugal, Ireland during the Eurozone crisis
• Ukraine, repeatedly since 2014
Though these are loans, they’re offered at below-market rates, often with U.S. backing or pressure to approve them.
✅ Is this a “handout”?
Not directly — IMF funds are loans, not grants — but U.S. capital is used to support European financial stability, often at U.S. taxpayer risk.
⸻
3. 🌍 World Bank
U.S. Role:
• Also the largest shareholder, like in the IMF (~16%).
• Focused more on developing countries, but some Balkan states and Eastern European nations have benefited.
What Europe Gets:
• Infrastructure and development loans in poorer EU or accession countries (e.g., Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia).
• Also plays a role in Ukraine reconstruction and aid post-2022.
✅ Is this a “handout”?
Again, these are loans, but U.S. influence helps ensure that European allies or interests are prioritized.
I haven’t read every answer here, but the ones I have all sound incredibly self serving, i.e. “they hate us because we’re amazing and they’re jealous”
All right, let’s be real for a moment here.
In a nutshell, I think they believe our way of life is financed by them. Their taxes pay for our security (military, intelligence) and without it our life would be less cheerful and colourful. Stability and freedom might even not exist in Europe if it wasn’t for them. Our world known free healthcare? Nonexistent. Some even believe we take advantage of their market, while we protect ours with rigorous and malice bureaucracy.
The list could go on, but essentially I believe they feel that we owe them. We should be grateful and perhaps even servile. There is some truth to it, but there are also a lot of half-hearted opinions out there. They don’t seem to understand their investment in our continent is beneficial to them as well.
Misinformation combined with envy can be dreadful.
Tbf I think Americans do have a point on nato spending. And surely wealthy western European countries should handle the defence of Europe. Germany alone is the third richest country.
Because all europe hates Maga
Because they consider Europeans the stereotypical freeloader that pays for special programs while neglecting defense spending
Because they strive to return to the 50s when the US was the only superpower because we were recovering from the war. They want that again.
Why does Europe believe MAGA hate them ? I don’t get that. I believe that Europe is not important to the state of the U.S. MAGA or not. There is nothing that Europe has that the U.S. doesn’t, therefore the importance of Europe is not a thing.
Like Putin, Maga sees non-fascist Europe as ideological threat, as dangerous counter example to the claims that a lot of things simply have to be the way they are in the US/Russia.
Magas hate whatever trump tells them to hate
Because Trump is aligned with Russia. That’s the one truth that makes sense of everything.
They absolutely hate everything. Hate is their identity and now you see the hate turning inwards with TACO and KETA falling out.
Why does Europe hate us?
Right or wrong there is a strong perception that Europe has been a bad partner. That when we have a strong presence the Europeans benefit but do so with derision for the Americans playing world police. If we pull back and ask Europe to take more of a lead, they fail to do so competently and come back to ask us to fight their battles when they inevitably erupt. And if we don’t bail them out we perceive more derision for not being there for them. This is exacerbated by the growing divisions and problems at home in the US. It is felt that this is a crucial time for us to get our own house in order and that we are being distracted from focusing internally in a productive manner in part because Europe has failed to heed multiple administrations warning to improve their defenses. There is a perspective that we are not allies with Europe, we are used by Europe. Asking us to fight Ukraines Russia war for Europe, through troops or supplies, is not perceived as an ally asking for help, but like an abuser asking for another bail out with disregard to the liabilities we have to take on to do so.
They don’t hate just Europe, they hate basically everyone. Because they need someone to hate so they can feel bettet about themselves.
They see the relatively higher quality of life in Europe and assume it’s only possible because EU governments don’t have to foot the bill for their own defense—thanks to the U.S. military picking up the tab.
If I am a citizen of the most powerful country in the world why is my life so miserable. Why do citizens of tiny, defenseless countries like Denmark get to live in luxury while Americans spend blood and money subsidizing their standard of living which is higher than ours.
We saved you from the Kaiser, from the Nazis, from the Soviets. For a century the United States put the world first, before itself. And what is the response? We get blamed for being the world police and we get blamed for not getting involved in every little old world conflict.
We are done subsidizing your weakness. Russia is floundering against Ukraine. If 120 million Russians can’t beat 40 million Ukrainians then why the hell would 300 million Americans need to protect 500 million Europeans. You are rich. We can see it. You rub it in our faces every time you laugh about us dying because of our health insurance system.
This is what MAGA thinks. They are missing the part about the American Empire reshaping the world to be this way, but it’s what they think.
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Because Putin does?
It’s quite clear why.
Same reason Putin does, inferiority complex, self hate, physical and mental inadequacies, mental illness, severe lack of education, absence of class and culture, etc.
MAGA hates everything that’s better than the U.S.
They never been there
Europe has been successful where the US wasn’t. They keep their ultracapitalism ideas that has made the richest country in the world to have third world problems.
EU has proven over and over that healthcare, social security, regulations, labour rights and human rights have created a better society. We live longer, we live better. We have educated our children and religiousity is decreasing and people is better for it.
And, because they hate it, they’d rather destroy it all than accept they were wrong.
Because they hate the fact that most of Europe criticizes them and does things against their wishes
The American right has bad-mouthed Europe for decades. It only makes sense: European economies give lie to the oft-made claim by U.S. Republicans that economies with robust social safety nets, sane healthcare systems, strong labor protections, etc. are doomed to fail. Putin and others are taking advantage of this.
Many of them probably don’t even own a passport and just get spoon fed lies from Fox News and Tucker Carlson
They probably would if they knew what it is?
Because we’re (mostly) democracies and that’s a hindrance to Thiel, Curtis Yarvin and other tech oligarch ghouls who want the world to be their own dystopia where they rule over the peasants.
They think Europe has a feast on the expense of Murica.
Because they can strengthen ingroup loyalty that way and liberal democracies are the biggest external threats for an authoritarian regime. MAGA fans also probably like authoritarian regimes and dislike liberal democracies, making it less costly for the regime in terms of domestic support
They don’t like unions.
Because Europe works. US doesn’t.
Because corporate America and billionaires spend a lot to negatively portray Europe. They don’t want more taxes and socialism.
Don’t try to understand ignorant and stupid people
Because most are a bunch of uneducated half brained rednecks who’s so gullible they don’t understand they joined a cult. They certainly have no clue about geography and believe anything their dear leader tells them to believe.
MAGA doesn’t want US workers to realize that they are essentially slaves in the current version of their labour code.
So they paint european countries as failed states communist hell holes and meddle in our politics to get far right idiots who will turn us all into Hungary to make it true.
Because we somewhat value and protect concepts like environment, diversity, privacy and because we prioritise those over capitalism.
Because they are sovereignists, they need enemies to thrive. They also hate us because they cant flood us with their socioeconomic ideas.
That’s it, they just want to expand more and more
same reason russian vatniks do
never seeing issue with own ways+ blaming others for own issues+ messiah complex centered around state (since majority of them have no personal achievements, so state power is their main achievement even if they janitors in said state)+ they have no actual desire to improve they just want hurt others
I’m not sure they all do honestly. Myself I mostly vote conservative, but I have lived in Europe, am married to a German, and back a strong NATO. Of the people that do identify as MAGA that I have interacted with, about half have views like mine, and the others are more neutral. Many are ex-military I believe and are just tired of fighting wars they do not view as in our interests, and many of the places we protect benefit Europe than they do us in the United States. I personally want Europe to be a strong and equal partner, which includes Europe doing more militarily. It just feels wrong that should another war break out if it is my sons going to fight for Europe while many European sons remain untrained and unready, and from polls I have read, unwilling, to defend their own nations.
[https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2024-03-20/germany-fighting-poll-13372620.html](https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2024-03-20/germany-fighting-poll-13372620.html)
(My apologies for singling out Germany, it is just I am exposed to Germany more than other nations in Europe. I know some countries like Finland and Poland would fight like hell to defend what is theirs.)
Europe represents what a prosperous and more fair America looks like, Walkable cities, stronger social safety net, universal healthcare, significantly more healthy food, much better work life balance, a more secular population (this one is particularly bothersome to them) etc etc.
A generalization for sure, but all of which are things most maga morons would benefit from. They however have been conditioned by right wing news, funded by billionaires, to believe all of these things are “woke” “socialism” or whatever buzzword on the triggered right winger bingo card they can find. They are told that politicians like AOC, Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders are the enemy, when in reality they are the only honest politicians trying to help them and unfuck our political system.
European countries are obviously not immune from the same plagues we see in the American political system but they have done the work to at least prevent the worst aspects of it from entering their politics. Particularly related to our privatization of healthcare, higher education, our strict two-party political system, and the unlimited campaign spending allowed by Citizens United, courtesy of our Supreme Court. Most importantly if European politicians tried to institute these things, their electorates would be furious and would know how to effectively voice the outrage.
They hate us, cuz they aint us.
I doubt most of them even think about Europe
Europe sees things from a different perspective/angle.
Look at their ‘hatred’ from their perspective if you want to try and understand it, then challenge it.
Don’t just descend into EU good, USA bad (have you learnt nothing from Brexit?).
There are some valid points amongst the general dross that need admitting to. Defence, reliance on Russian fossil fuels, lack of direct action on Ukraine etc.
I’m going to take a bit of a downvote magnet contrarian opinion here, but based on my MAGA family they don’t. They just don’t care. What goes on in Europe has no meaning to them in their daily lives.
While they find a lot of what goes on here bizarre though interesting sometimes, anything that includes the word socialism can be triggering, and of course they are also social conservatives.
One thing I don’t think a lot of Europeans understand over here is that our politics are so binary and polarized that having strong views on certain issues locks you into one side or the other whether you like the rest of that side or not. Rhetoric like this, and all these automatic assumptions of beliefs behind people who voted for Trump only push them further in that direction.
You’d actually be surprised how many really want a lot of what we have over here too. I have a limited sample size though, so you don’t have to take my word for it.
I didn’t want to subscribe to unlock the article. What’s the evidence MAGA world actually gives two shits about Europe?
while the U.S. isn’t cutting checks directly to Europe in most cases, it’s bearing most of the strategic and financial weight in institutions that stabilize and support Europe — especially militarily and during economic crises
Since post world war II, america has been the financial lead in bringing economic prosperity to europe. Maga is a bunch of illiterate smhucks with no education, but the reality is below:
1. 🔰 NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization)
What the U.S. Provides:
• ~70% of NATO’s total defense spending comes from the U.S.
• The U.S. pays about 16% of NATO’s direct budget (admin, infrastructure, etc.)
• U.S. troops, bases, and equipment are stationed across Europe (Germany, Poland, etc.)
Why It Matters:
• This essentially subsidizes European defense, since most EU countries spend less than 2% of GDP on their military (the NATO target).
• The U.S. maintains a security umbrella over Europe, which reduces what Europe needs to spend on its own defense.
✅ Is this a “handout”?
Not in direct cash, but yes — Europe benefits from underpaying for defense, relying on U.S. strategic power.
⸻
2. 💰 IMF (International Monetary Fund)
U.S. Role:
• The U.S. is the largest single contributor to the IMF (~17% of funding).
• The IMF lends money to countries in financial crisis (some in Eastern Europe after 2008).
What Europe Gets:
• IMF aid has gone to:
• Greece, Portugal, Ireland during the Eurozone crisis
• Ukraine, repeatedly since 2014
Though these are loans, they’re offered at below-market rates, often with U.S. backing or pressure to approve them.
✅ Is this a “handout”?
Not directly — IMF funds are loans, not grants — but U.S. capital is used to support European financial stability, often at U.S. taxpayer risk.
⸻
3. 🌍 World Bank
U.S. Role:
• Also the largest shareholder, like in the IMF (~16%).
• Focused more on developing countries, but some Balkan states and Eastern European nations have benefited.
What Europe Gets:
• Infrastructure and development loans in poorer EU or accession countries (e.g., Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia).
• Also plays a role in Ukraine reconstruction and aid post-2022.
✅ Is this a “handout”?
Again, these are loans, but U.S. influence helps ensure that European allies or interests are prioritized.
I haven’t read every answer here, but the ones I have all sound incredibly self serving, i.e. “they hate us because we’re amazing and they’re jealous”
All right, let’s be real for a moment here.
In a nutshell, I think they believe our way of life is financed by them. Their taxes pay for our security (military, intelligence) and without it our life would be less cheerful and colourful. Stability and freedom might even not exist in Europe if it wasn’t for them. Our world known free healthcare? Nonexistent. Some even believe we take advantage of their market, while we protect ours with rigorous and malice bureaucracy.
The list could go on, but essentially I believe they feel that we owe them. We should be grateful and perhaps even servile. There is some truth to it, but there are also a lot of half-hearted opinions out there. They don’t seem to understand their investment in our continent is beneficial to them as well.
Misinformation combined with envy can be dreadful.
Tbf I think Americans do have a point on nato spending. And surely wealthy western European countries should handle the defence of Europe. Germany alone is the third richest country.
Because all europe hates Maga
Because they consider Europeans the stereotypical freeloader that pays for special programs while neglecting defense spending
Because they strive to return to the 50s when the US was the only superpower because we were recovering from the war. They want that again.
Why does Europe believe MAGA hate them ? I don’t get that. I believe that Europe is not important to the state of the U.S. MAGA or not. There is nothing that Europe has that the U.S. doesn’t, therefore the importance of Europe is not a thing.
Like Putin, Maga sees non-fascist Europe as ideological threat, as dangerous counter example to the claims that a lot of things simply have to be the way they are in the US/Russia.
Magas hate whatever trump tells them to hate
Because Trump is aligned with Russia. That’s the one truth that makes sense of everything.
They absolutely hate everything. Hate is their identity and now you see the hate turning inwards with TACO and KETA falling out.
Why does Europe hate us?
Right or wrong there is a strong perception that Europe has been a bad partner. That when we have a strong presence the Europeans benefit but do so with derision for the Americans playing world police. If we pull back and ask Europe to take more of a lead, they fail to do so competently and come back to ask us to fight their battles when they inevitably erupt. And if we don’t bail them out we perceive more derision for not being there for them. This is exacerbated by the growing divisions and problems at home in the US. It is felt that this is a crucial time for us to get our own house in order and that we are being distracted from focusing internally in a productive manner in part because Europe has failed to heed multiple administrations warning to improve their defenses. There is a perspective that we are not allies with Europe, we are used by Europe. Asking us to fight Ukraines Russia war for Europe, through troops or supplies, is not perceived as an ally asking for help, but like an abuser asking for another bail out with disregard to the liabilities we have to take on to do so.
They don’t hate just Europe, they hate basically everyone. Because they need someone to hate so they can feel bettet about themselves.
They see the relatively higher quality of life in Europe and assume it’s only possible because EU governments don’t have to foot the bill for their own defense—thanks to the U.S. military picking up the tab.
If I am a citizen of the most powerful country in the world why is my life so miserable. Why do citizens of tiny, defenseless countries like Denmark get to live in luxury while Americans spend blood and money subsidizing their standard of living which is higher than ours.
We saved you from the Kaiser, from the Nazis, from the Soviets. For a century the United States put the world first, before itself. And what is the response? We get blamed for being the world police and we get blamed for not getting involved in every little old world conflict.
We are done subsidizing your weakness. Russia is floundering against Ukraine. If 120 million Russians can’t beat 40 million Ukrainians then why the hell would 300 million Americans need to protect 500 million Europeans. You are rich. We can see it. You rub it in our faces every time you laugh about us dying because of our health insurance system.
This is what MAGA thinks. They are missing the part about the American Empire reshaping the world to be this way, but it’s what they think.
They hate anything that is perceived as better.
Because they were told to.
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