population of France and Germany in the last 200 years Tags:Europe 7 comments source:[https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA) people like to think that the succes of Napoleon and the success of Prussia was caused by superior discipline or culture In reality,diverging population growth played an enormous role if France had during Napoleon **50% more people** than current German lands,by the time of the 1871 war they had **10% less** Had France had the same population as Germany, the Franco-Prusssian war, WW1 and WW2 would have turned VERY different What are the additional dips in Germany’s population after WW2? Not sure what’s the point of this graph other than to conclude that XIX-century Germans were fucking a lot. [I would have thought that Ukraine, Belarus and Serbia’s populations would have fallen significantly more than that during the first half of the 20th century.](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA~UKR~BLR~SRB~GBR) So, question: What’s the definition of Germany here? Modern borders? The German States at the time? Are lost territories included at all? What about Austria? Why did Germany outpace France so much in population growth in the 1800s? Leave a ReplyYou must be logged in to post a comment.
source:[https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA)
people like to think that the succes of Napoleon and the success of Prussia was caused by superior discipline or culture In reality,diverging population growth played an enormous role if France had during Napoleon **50% more people** than current German lands,by the time of the 1871 war they had **10% less** Had France had the same population as Germany, the Franco-Prusssian war, WW1 and WW2 would have turned VERY different
Not sure what’s the point of this graph other than to conclude that XIX-century Germans were fucking a lot.
[I would have thought that Ukraine, Belarus and Serbia’s populations would have fallen significantly more than that during the first half of the 20th century.](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA~UKR~BLR~SRB~GBR)
So, question: What’s the definition of Germany here? Modern borders? The German States at the time? Are lost territories included at all? What about Austria?
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source:[https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA)
people like to think that the succes of Napoleon and the success of Prussia was caused by superior discipline or culture
In reality,diverging population growth played an enormous role
if France had during Napoleon **50% more people** than current German lands,by the time of the 1871 war they had **10% less**
Had France had the same population as Germany, the Franco-Prusssian war, WW1 and WW2 would have turned VERY different
What are the additional dips in Germany’s population after WW2?
Not sure what’s the point of this graph other than to conclude that XIX-century Germans were fucking a lot.
[I would have thought that Ukraine, Belarus and Serbia’s populations would have fallen significantly more than that during the first half of the 20th century.](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/population?tab=chart&country=DEU~FRA~UKR~BLR~SRB~GBR)
So, question: What’s the definition of Germany here? Modern borders? The German States at the time? Are lost territories included at all? What about Austria?
Why did Germany outpace France so much in population growth in the 1800s?