It amazes me that 75% of the world is still completely dillusional
I am of the “try not to be an asshole” religion.
0.01B Jews = 10M. What?? That doesn’t seem right.
Anyway, yeah. Billions of delusional people. Oh well.
Is Buddhism a dying religion?
Should the Chinese data be taken seriously given the CCPs relationship with religious groups?
But the Jews are Nazis according to the left.
But how many of those Christians are Catholics?
/s
now show year over year change per country
Got to boost that religiously unaffiliated group a lot more
I had no idea Jews were that rare.
How does one even know that person is relgious or not? I have a danish friend who says she is protestant yet she is bisexual and prayed to a korean spirit God. Yet she refused to pray to Buddha since according to her she was still a Christian. Also I have met so many Irish catholic who says they are catholic yet almost never goes to church. Are they relgious?
In korea there was a politician that said he was atheist yet he spent millions of dollars to buy a room that was supposed to give him good luck according to daoism. When I was in turkey all of the korean tourist despite saying they have no relgion went the mosque and prayed to all hoping for good luck. Is this relgious?
Simlar thing with Indian friend who says he isn’t hindu or french friend that’s says he isn’t catholic yet they go to temple or church multiple times a weak.
Even trying to know what a relgious person is hard. I do not trust this graph.
disaffected sub-saharan african teens gonna be a huge demographic right about now.
It should be said, in my experience the majority of Chinese people follow the Chinese folk religion, which the CCP pretends doesn’t exist and doesn’t officially measure.
It’s a very interesting belief system that’s extremely understudied because of the government.
Jews who do nothing associated with Judaism all year but do a fancy dinner with their family for Passover are generally listed as “Jewish”.
Christians who do nothing associated with Christianity all year but do a fancy dinner with their family for Christmas are generally listed as “religiously unaffiliated”.
People forget about the cultural water they swim in. I think the number of people who truly have no affiliation with religion is lower than these numbers suggest, and the number who have no spiritual commitments to their religion is probably higher than these numbers suggest.
Rooting for the horse in third
Data for China is a wild estimate from pew research btw. Officially they haven’t surveyed anyone there and instead scrubbed data from other sources. Their own data says their estimate for people who are religious is between 10-50% while saying it’s impossible to be accurate due to cultural differences, language interpretation of the word “religion”, government restrictions on religion, and so forth. In the same data they say 33% of Chinese people believe in Buddha and bodhisattva and that they influence the world.
Statists are the world’s largest religious group. Also, the most destructive religion.
I’m struggling to not read the first image as saying (on the right) that Christianity saw an increase of 121.6M (million) meaning 121.6 million million people, while the other religions saw only hundreds or dozens of millions
Just think: no matter which specific religion, or indeed special branch of that main religion, someone might follow; the obsolete vast majority of everyone else in the world disagrees with you and does not believe what you believe.
There is one problem with this methodology
It is consistent, yes, which matters when you have to count THE ENTIRE PLANET
But changing your religion in the census, specially if you are no longer religious, is not usually done
Case in point: Turkey has nearly 0% official atheists/non religiously affiliated, while it has a significant non religious population, that’s many millions of non affiliated not being counted there
Same thing happens on most countries, India has virtually no religiously unaffiliated, but in reality India has millions of non believers
I mean. The CCP hates religion, this makes sense for them to be low.
Jews make up only 0.2% of the world population? That feels like it has to be wrong….
Christianity is the easiest to join. You can pretty much stumble into a church and you become Christian.
I know proselytizing is frowned on but I can’t help it. I’m pretty excited to see an Unaffiliated-Dominant World™!
The numbers are pretty questionable. Is there actually some kind of world wide reliable census that asks for religion status? What determines if a person is religious and which religion precisely? How many are agnostic? Atheist?
If religiously unaffiliated is atheism, it seems like that is growing at more than twice the Christianity rate per these records.
We need to pump those unaffiliated numbers.
Hmmm … I don’t think so for Buddhism or for China. In southern China (Guangdong, Yunnan and some other provinces), it’s really common to have some degree of belief in Buddhism. People may also describe themselves as Buddhist, but worship both Buddhist and Taoist deities at the same time. If there are more than 125 million people in Guangdong alone, so that’s a lot of Buddhists who seem not to be counted. Then there are the people in Yunnan, Tibet, Shanghai and other places.
How does the data account for Christian Chinese in underground churches?
Looks like Christianity is about to be overtaken by non-affiliated.
I feel like the implications of the 3rd graph are pretty misleading. You can see a pretty consistent distribution between 100% and 80% for most countries across all HDI scores. There’s such a massive amount of variance here that you really can’t establish much of a causal relationship.
Most of the countries in this lower-right quadrant of high HDI and low religiosity are mostly Western or East Asian countries- both of which have shifted significantly away from religiosity, but also built their wealth largely independent of that. Admittedly I don’t know much about China, but Europe built it’s wealth on colonialism- which was in part politically motivated by this motivation to spread Christianity *(at least, it gave them some pretext with the public. I doubt the leaders had any strong religious beliefs.).*
It feels borderline revisionist to try to characterize the growth of these wealthy nations to be due to a lack in religiosity. If you plotted this graph even 10, 20 years ago you would come to a vastly different conclusion- and most of these countries would have similar HDIs. Big exception in China which grew a lot in the past 20 years specifically.
On a more subjective level, it really feels very self-indulgent redditor coded, I just have to be real.
I see the majority of us still believe and guide our lives by fairy tales. One can only hope that we get it together by the end of my lifetime… but I doubt it.
So. According to these numbers, something like 98% of people are religious. Extremely dubious these numbers are even remotely accurate.
The globe is dominated by cults run by men for their advantage. ( and the easy chicks)
Well they can’t all be right. Proof that humans will believe anything.
I think Christianity is only biggest on paper.
Growing up in Denmark, you are considered Christian the second you have your confirmation, which everyone gets. (Suffer through an hour in church and get 3 birthdays worth of gifts and money. Any kid would be stupid not to).
In actuality though, 95% of the people are either atheist or agnostic.
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It amazes me that 75% of the world is still completely dillusional
I am of the “try not to be an asshole” religion.
0.01B Jews = 10M. What?? That doesn’t seem right.
Anyway, yeah. Billions of delusional people. Oh well.
Is Buddhism a dying religion?
Should the Chinese data be taken seriously given the CCPs relationship with religious groups?
But the Jews are Nazis according to the left.
But how many of those Christians are Catholics?
/s
now show year over year change per country
Got to boost that religiously unaffiliated group a lot more
I had no idea Jews were that rare.
How does one even know that person is relgious or not? I have a danish friend who says she is protestant yet she is bisexual and prayed to a korean spirit God. Yet she refused to pray to Buddha since according to her she was still a Christian. Also I have met so many Irish catholic who says they are catholic yet almost never goes to church. Are they relgious?
In korea there was a politician that said he was atheist yet he spent millions of dollars to buy a room that was supposed to give him good luck according to daoism. When I was in turkey all of the korean tourist despite saying they have no relgion went the mosque and prayed to all hoping for good luck. Is this relgious?
Simlar thing with Indian friend who says he isn’t hindu or french friend that’s says he isn’t catholic yet they go to temple or church multiple times a weak.
Even trying to know what a relgious person is hard. I do not trust this graph.
disaffected sub-saharan african teens gonna be a huge demographic right about now.
It should be said, in my experience the majority of Chinese people follow the Chinese folk religion, which the CCP pretends doesn’t exist and doesn’t officially measure.
It’s a very interesting belief system that’s extremely understudied because of the government.
Jews who do nothing associated with Judaism all year but do a fancy dinner with their family for Passover are generally listed as “Jewish”.
Christians who do nothing associated with Christianity all year but do a fancy dinner with their family for Christmas are generally listed as “religiously unaffiliated”.
People forget about the cultural water they swim in. I think the number of people who truly have no affiliation with religion is lower than these numbers suggest, and the number who have no spiritual commitments to their religion is probably higher than these numbers suggest.
Rooting for the horse in third
Data for China is a wild estimate from pew research btw. Officially they haven’t surveyed anyone there and instead scrubbed data from other sources. Their own data says their estimate for people who are religious is between 10-50% while saying it’s impossible to be accurate due to cultural differences, language interpretation of the word “religion”, government restrictions on religion, and so forth. In the same data they say 33% of Chinese people believe in Buddha and bodhisattva and that they influence the world.
Statists are the world’s largest religious group. Also, the most destructive religion.
I’m struggling to not read the first image as saying (on the right) that Christianity saw an increase of 121.6M (million) meaning 121.6 million million people, while the other religions saw only hundreds or dozens of millions
Just think: no matter which specific religion, or indeed special branch of that main religion, someone might follow; the obsolete vast majority of everyone else in the world disagrees with you and does not believe what you believe.
There is one problem with this methodology
It is consistent, yes, which matters when you have to count THE ENTIRE PLANET
But changing your religion in the census, specially if you are no longer religious, is not usually done
Case in point: Turkey has nearly 0% official atheists/non religiously affiliated, while it has a significant non religious population, that’s many millions of non affiliated not being counted there
Same thing happens on most countries, India has virtually no religiously unaffiliated, but in reality India has millions of non believers
I mean. The CCP hates religion, this makes sense for them to be low.
Jews make up only 0.2% of the world population? That feels like it has to be wrong….
Christianity is the easiest to join. You can pretty much stumble into a church and you become Christian.
I know proselytizing is frowned on but I can’t help it. I’m pretty excited to see an Unaffiliated-Dominant World™!
The numbers are pretty questionable. Is there actually some kind of world wide reliable census that asks for religion status? What determines if a person is religious and which religion precisely? How many are agnostic? Atheist?
If religiously unaffiliated is atheism, it seems like that is growing at more than twice the Christianity rate per these records.
We need to pump those unaffiliated numbers.
Hmmm … I don’t think so for Buddhism or for China. In southern China (Guangdong, Yunnan and some other provinces), it’s really common to have some degree of belief in Buddhism. People may also describe themselves as Buddhist, but worship both Buddhist and Taoist deities at the same time. If there are more than 125 million people in Guangdong alone, so that’s a lot of Buddhists who seem not to be counted. Then there are the people in Yunnan, Tibet, Shanghai and other places.
How does the data account for Christian Chinese in underground churches?
Looks like Christianity is about to be overtaken by non-affiliated.
I feel like the implications of the 3rd graph are pretty misleading. You can see a pretty consistent distribution between 100% and 80% for most countries across all HDI scores. There’s such a massive amount of variance here that you really can’t establish much of a causal relationship.
Most of the countries in this lower-right quadrant of high HDI and low religiosity are mostly Western or East Asian countries- both of which have shifted significantly away from religiosity, but also built their wealth largely independent of that. Admittedly I don’t know much about China, but Europe built it’s wealth on colonialism- which was in part politically motivated by this motivation to spread Christianity *(at least, it gave them some pretext with the public. I doubt the leaders had any strong religious beliefs.).*
It feels borderline revisionist to try to characterize the growth of these wealthy nations to be due to a lack in religiosity. If you plotted this graph even 10, 20 years ago you would come to a vastly different conclusion- and most of these countries would have similar HDIs. Big exception in China which grew a lot in the past 20 years specifically.
On a more subjective level, it really feels very self-indulgent redditor coded, I just have to be real.
I see the majority of us still believe and guide our lives by fairy tales. One can only hope that we get it together by the end of my lifetime… but I doubt it.
So. According to these numbers, something like 98% of people are religious. Extremely dubious these numbers are even remotely accurate.
The globe is dominated by cults run by men for their advantage. ( and the easy chicks)
Well they can’t all be right. Proof that humans will believe anything.
I think Christianity is only biggest on paper.
Growing up in Denmark, you are considered Christian the second you have your confirmation, which everyone gets. (Suffer through an hour in church and get 3 birthdays worth of gifts and money. Any kid would be stupid not to).
In actuality though, 95% of the people are either atheist or agnostic.
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