When Jacob Rees-Mogg goes on a radio phone-in and finds himself unable to think of a single benefit of Brexit, fully six years after it happened, and instead blames its total failure on the EU, who are apparently being mean to us, it’s important to remember that this has got nothing to do with Brexit being a disaster, and everything to do with Jacob Rees-Mogg being stupid.
Brexit’s great. It’s just that Rees-Mogg is too dim to have realised. I can already list one massive benefit of Brexit. Before Brexit happened, there was a vague sense in Westminster that Rees-Mogg, a persistent critic of the Cameron government, was a serious person who was usually worth listening to.
Now that Brexit has happened, elevating Rees-Mogg to the cabinet, he has been unable to prevent himself from laying bare his own towering idiocy. Without Brexit, that would never have occurred. (All right, so it’s not much of a benefit, but it’s better than anything Rees-Mogg managed to come up with himself – thus proving the point.)
If you want further proof, you need look no further than, ah yes, the next 10 seconds of Rees-Mogg’s LBC phone-in. In the next few days, it is going to become clear whether the prime minister has been found to have broken his own Covid laws, by attending illegal parties in both the office part of 10 Downing Street and the part that is his home.
No one’s quite sure if he will get fined, but it doesn’t bode well that the best defence members of the cabinet currently have is that the public have “moved on”. And it especially doesn’t bode well if said members of the cabinet, ie Rees-Mogg, really are stupid enough to try this on a radio phone-in show. Because what happens on a radio phone-in show is that members of the public phone in, at which point it becomes clear very quickly indeed whether or not they’ve “moved on”. And they haven’t.
You will not be overly shocked to learn that, having been told by Rees-Mogg that they’d “moved on”, there were no calls from members of the public to say: “Yeah, what even was that party business? I have completely moved on.”
And, more’s the point, if there is anyone alive out there who’s “moved on”, Rees-Mogg will have to hope that absolutely none of them were listening to his radio phone-in on LBC, which will without doubt have moved them right back from wherever it is they’ve moved on to, as a direct consequence of Rees-Mogg expecting them to be stupid enough to believe the words coming out of his mouth.
It seems clear that some people do believe Boris Johnson will get fined, which is why the pre-emptive defence that is currently being bandied about by Rees-Mogg and others does not involve denying any wrongdoing. Rather it consists of denying that Johnson deliberately misled the House of Commons when he told MPs, on multiple occasions, that there hadn’t been any parties, and then that he hadn’t been at any of the parties, and then, all right, that he had been at one of them but he didn’t know it was a party.
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“If the prime minister is told information that is incorrect, and passes on that information, he has made no deliberate effort to mislead,” Rees-Mogg gently explained to a member of the public who had called in to ask about Partygate despite having already moved on.
And yes, it was at this point that the mover-oners turned and sprinted right back to where they had moved on from, specifically to ask: “Jacob, are you taking the actual piss or what?”
If the prime minister is told information that is incorrect and passes on that information, then he has made no deliberate effort to mislead. Which is kind of true, except for that naggingly awkward fact that the incorrect information he “passed on” was that there hadn’t been any parties, even though he himself had been at them.
It is a curious thought experiment, which some people have flatteringly described as “sophistry” but is actually just extremely artless bulls***.
Should Johnson receive a fine for breaking lockdown rules, he is of course entitled to appeal, just as all receivers of fixed penalty notices are. We look forward to the form being made public. “Dear Metropolitan Police, thank you for sending me this picture of myself, topless, tie round head, funnelling three bottles of wine direct from a suitcase. But I’ve asked one of my staff and they’ve said it didn’t happen, so I’m sure we can agree that that is the end of the matter.”
To which the police will surely reply, “Sorry. What has this even been about? Everybody’s moved on.”
He is the sacrificial anode on the leaky tory ship. We know what he is about, he would get voted for whatever and Johnson takes less personal criticism.
Hasn’t this been obvious for a fairly long time already?
Don’t listen to them, Lord Rees of Mogg. You will make a fantastic king one day x
Reposting a comment I made earlier:
He was going for a full motorway pile-up this morning:
edit: clarification for the spectacularly dim witted amongst us.
“If the prime minister is told information that is incorrect, and passes on that information, he has made no deliberate effort to mislead,”
I’m sure he’d say the same about Blair and the “sexed up” Iraq dossier, right?
I remember what you said Jacob now you are going back on it like the spineless worm you are
I actually quite dislike conflating the current Tory government with stupidity.
Why?
Because its the intelligence of them and their PR teams behind the scenes that *makes them dangerous* and we need to remember this when we are deliberating what we are up against.
Dead cat distractions, gaslighting, comical quips, hyperbole and Peppa Pig worlds are not cartoonish blusters. They know exactly what they’re doing and how everything comes across and they’re hand in hand with the media. Playing a duet as we dance our jig and they ransack the vaults.
Are we absolutely certain that he doesn’t know that what he says is dumb and doesn’t care because it still gets him and his party votes so, really, it’s the rest of us who are idiots?
Always remember there are 28,360 very thick people who voted for Mr Rees Mogg at the 2019 election. Like Covid19, they haven’t gone away, so expect this twat to get re-elected.
He has finally learnt that he cannot hide behind Latin quips and a public school accent forever, especially not when people are very angry and actually want answers. He was great if you wanted a quick quote but he falls apart under proper scrutiny, like so many of his colleagues. As more people see the effects of Brexit affect the economy, those who were its biggest supporters are going to have to answer some tough questions from those they had previously fooled.
No,no he talks posh – he obviously is awfully, awfully clever and is born to rule over us mere Plebs.
That ordinary folk put a cross beside the name of such as Rees-Mogg is an enduring mystery. Maybe they *like* being dildoed up the backside?
Al Moggy’s money is safe in the EU in Ireland. Anything that happens in the UK has absolutely no effect on him whatsoever. Every time he opens his hypocritical mouth he spouts nonsense.
Brexit has once and for all, exposed the tories and their media arm to be the lying, scheming, corrupt bastards that they so undoubtedly have always been
A Brexit ‘bonus’ if ever there was one!
He is still laughing all the way to his Dublin office.
One of the eye watering volume of useless cunts we love to rule us, like the dipshitted masochists we are. England prevails!
When are the Inde and Guardian going to stop reprinting the same article over and over again. They’re preaching to their own choir and just riling them up. Those, like me, who voted to leave are not in the remotest bit bothered about what the Inde thinks.
If anything, what we’ve learnt over the last 5 years is just how completely wrong the hard wing of the remain lobby’s predictions have been. Where is my recession, where are the 500,000 unemployed, where is the super gonorrhea?
What we’ve learned is a global pandemic and a war in the Ukraine dwarf any negative effects of Brexit. Brexit, by comparison, is rounding error.
I’m not sure what benefit can be had by continually trolling the electorate but Rees Mogg just keeps on doing it..
Brexit would have been grand if those in power hadn’t sold everything off. British rail, sure we’ve brought that back in house, practically everything that was British. I mean, who the hell sells of their country’s infrastructure‽ Oh yes, they British government.
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When Jacob Rees-Mogg goes on a radio phone-in and finds himself unable to think of a single benefit of Brexit, fully six years after it happened, and instead blames its total failure on the EU, who are apparently being mean to us, it’s important to remember that this has got nothing to do with Brexit being a disaster, and everything to do with Jacob Rees-Mogg being stupid.
Brexit’s great. It’s just that Rees-Mogg is too dim to have realised. I can already list one massive benefit of Brexit. Before Brexit happened, there was a vague sense in Westminster that Rees-Mogg, a persistent critic of the Cameron government, was a serious person who was usually worth listening to.
Now that Brexit has happened, elevating Rees-Mogg to the cabinet, he has been unable to prevent himself from laying bare his own towering idiocy. Without Brexit, that would never have occurred. (All right, so it’s not much of a benefit, but it’s better than anything Rees-Mogg managed to come up with himself – thus proving the point.)
If you want further proof, you need look no further than, ah yes, the next 10 seconds of Rees-Mogg’s LBC phone-in. In the next few days, it is going to become clear whether the prime minister has been found to have broken his own Covid laws, by attending illegal parties in both the office part of 10 Downing Street and the part that is his home.
No one’s quite sure if he will get fined, but it doesn’t bode well that the best defence members of the cabinet currently have is that the public have “moved on”. And it especially doesn’t bode well if said members of the cabinet, ie Rees-Mogg, really are stupid enough to try this on a radio phone-in show. Because what happens on a radio phone-in show is that members of the public phone in, at which point it becomes clear very quickly indeed whether or not they’ve “moved on”. And they haven’t.
You will not be overly shocked to learn that, having been told by Rees-Mogg that they’d “moved on”, there were no calls from members of the public to say: “Yeah, what even was that party business? I have completely moved on.”
And, more’s the point, if there is anyone alive out there who’s “moved on”, Rees-Mogg will have to hope that absolutely none of them were listening to his radio phone-in on LBC, which will without doubt have moved them right back from wherever it is they’ve moved on to, as a direct consequence of Rees-Mogg expecting them to be stupid enough to believe the words coming out of his mouth.
It seems clear that some people do believe Boris Johnson will get fined, which is why the pre-emptive defence that is currently being bandied about by Rees-Mogg and others does not involve denying any wrongdoing. Rather it consists of denying that Johnson deliberately misled the House of Commons when he told MPs, on multiple occasions, that there hadn’t been any parties, and then that he hadn’t been at any of the parties, and then, all right, that he had been at one of them but he didn’t know it was a party.
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“If the prime minister is told information that is incorrect, and passes on that information, he has made no deliberate effort to mislead,” Rees-Mogg gently explained to a member of the public who had called in to ask about Partygate despite having already moved on.
And yes, it was at this point that the mover-oners turned and sprinted right back to where they had moved on from, specifically to ask: “Jacob, are you taking the actual piss or what?”
If the prime minister is told information that is incorrect and passes on that information, then he has made no deliberate effort to mislead. Which is kind of true, except for that naggingly awkward fact that the incorrect information he “passed on” was that there hadn’t been any parties, even though he himself had been at them.
It is a curious thought experiment, which some people have flatteringly described as “sophistry” but is actually just extremely artless bulls***.
Should Johnson receive a fine for breaking lockdown rules, he is of course entitled to appeal, just as all receivers of fixed penalty notices are. We look forward to the form being made public. “Dear Metropolitan Police, thank you for sending me this picture of myself, topless, tie round head, funnelling three bottles of wine direct from a suitcase. But I’ve asked one of my staff and they’ve said it didn’t happen, so I’m sure we can agree that that is the end of the matter.”
To which the police will surely reply, “Sorry. What has this even been about? Everybody’s moved on.”
He is the sacrificial anode on the leaky tory ship. We know what he is about, he would get voted for whatever and Johnson takes less personal criticism.
Hasn’t this been obvious for a fairly long time already?
Don’t listen to them, Lord Rees of Mogg. You will make a fantastic king one day x
Reposting a comment I made earlier:
He was going for a full motorway pile-up this morning:
https://nitter.net/LBC/search?f=tweets&q=+%40Jacob_Rees_Mogg&since=&until=&near=
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edit: clarification for the spectacularly dim witted amongst us.
“If the prime minister is told information that is incorrect, and passes on that information, he has made no deliberate effort to mislead,”
I’m sure he’d say the same about Blair and the “sexed up” Iraq dossier, right?
I remember what you said Jacob now you are going back on it like the spineless worm you are
I actually quite dislike conflating the current Tory government with stupidity.
Why?
Because its the intelligence of them and their PR teams behind the scenes that *makes them dangerous* and we need to remember this when we are deliberating what we are up against.
Dead cat distractions, gaslighting, comical quips, hyperbole and Peppa Pig worlds are not cartoonish blusters. They know exactly what they’re doing and how everything comes across and they’re hand in hand with the media. Playing a duet as we dance our jig and they ransack the vaults.
Are we absolutely certain that he doesn’t know that what he says is dumb and doesn’t care because it still gets him and his party votes so, really, it’s the rest of us who are idiots?
Always remember there are 28,360 very thick people who voted for Mr Rees Mogg at the 2019 election. Like Covid19, they haven’t gone away, so expect this twat to get re-elected.
He has finally learnt that he cannot hide behind Latin quips and a public school accent forever, especially not when people are very angry and actually want answers. He was great if you wanted a quick quote but he falls apart under proper scrutiny, like so many of his colleagues. As more people see the effects of Brexit affect the economy, those who were its biggest supporters are going to have to answer some tough questions from those they had previously fooled.
No,no he talks posh – he obviously is awfully, awfully clever and is born to rule over us mere Plebs.
That ordinary folk put a cross beside the name of such as Rees-Mogg is an enduring mystery. Maybe they *like* being dildoed up the backside?
Al Moggy’s money is safe in the EU in Ireland. Anything that happens in the UK has absolutely no effect on him whatsoever. Every time he opens his hypocritical mouth he spouts nonsense.
Brexit has once and for all, exposed the tories and their media arm to be the lying, scheming, corrupt bastards that they so undoubtedly have always been
A Brexit ‘bonus’ if ever there was one!
He is still laughing all the way to his Dublin office.
One of the eye watering volume of useless cunts we love to rule us, like the dipshitted masochists we are. England prevails!
When are the Inde and Guardian going to stop reprinting the same article over and over again. They’re preaching to their own choir and just riling them up. Those, like me, who voted to leave are not in the remotest bit bothered about what the Inde thinks.
If anything, what we’ve learnt over the last 5 years is just how completely wrong the hard wing of the remain lobby’s predictions have been. Where is my recession, where are the 500,000 unemployed, where is the super gonorrhea?
What we’ve learned is a global pandemic and a war in the Ukraine dwarf any negative effects of Brexit. Brexit, by comparison, is rounding error.
I’m not sure what benefit can be had by continually trolling the electorate but Rees Mogg just keeps on doing it..
Brexit would have been grand if those in power hadn’t sold everything off. British rail, sure we’ve brought that back in house, practically everything that was British. I mean, who the hell sells of their country’s infrastructure‽ Oh yes, they British government.