>*The rider of the high-powered motorcycle that struck and killed Garda Kevin Flatley while he was on duty at a speed checkpoint in Dublin last month had no tax or insurance.*
>*Gardai believe that Izzet Can Berber, the rider of the 1,000cc Yamaha R1, lost control of the vehicle on the R132 at Lissenhall, near Swords, on May 11.*
>*Flatley, 49, had been trying to wave down the motorcyclist. He died at the scene. Berber, a Turkish national who had settled in Ireland, sustained critical injuries and died ten days later in Beaumont Hospital.*
>A marked garda vehicle had been parked to alert motorists to the presence of the checkpoint, which should have prompted Berber to slow down. After the tragedy, disinformation circulated on WhatsApp which purported to provide a witness’s account of the incident. Gardai said the claims made in those messages were entirely false.
thats a very emotive headline, and deliberately so.
“Rider involved in fatal accident that cost both Garda and rider their lives” probably doesnt get as many clicks
Shocking
Change my mind: checking insurance, tax, and speed shouldn’t involve two persons standing at the side of the road beside dangerous traffic.
One of the rules in case of a car issue on the motorway is to park beside the barriers and stand **behind** them waiting for emergency services to arrive. All bulding sites have strict safety rules for builders. Why does the Garda think that putting people beside traffic is a good idea instead of using all the technology we have today?
Christ almighty. Speeding massively above speed limit. Refused to stop. Killed a garda. No tax. No insurance. I can’t say what I really think about this man or I’ll be banned.
Some amount of tinfoil hat wearers in this sub
All the great folk over at r/motoireland were adamant that this was the guards fault for stepping out in front of the bike suddenly. The day after this degenerate had killed him. Not surprising, cretins
Did he step in front of the bike to try stop it?
I assume all the r/motoireland lads who painted the killer as the real victim in this will be along any second now to hold their hands up and say they got it wrong.
Damn. If only he had tax and insurance. It might have saved him
Can I just say there’s 2 families devastated and unless anyone posting witnessed directly we are all fuckin speculating
Ok headlines get clicks sell copies blah blah been handled badly from start
I find it odd these details were released.
Who would have sourced these and for what possible reason?
These something not right at play here.
Unless the man been driving on footpaths or proving himself to be an intentional danger to the public, standing in front of a moving vehicle is completely unnecessary and absolutely stupid, RIP sir
Tax or insurance isn’t really a big deal compared to speeding, losing control of the bike and killing someone else
Although I’m not siding with the motorbike, it’s worth pointing out that nothing here says that the Garda didn’t step out in front of the bike. Which is, in my mind, still what happened.
I do ride a bike, although I’ve only ever encountered one checkpoint on it (and there was a car ahead of me, so it was obvious and natural to slow down), however, a Garda did stop me for speeding once in Cavan.
The reason I still believe the Garda stepped in front of the bike, is because when I got stopped for speeding, that’s exactly what the Garda did to me. The high-vis stab vests had already been deployed at this point, but this Garda was literally standing in a hedge at the side of the road, wearing the old navy stab vest, and her unmarked car was parked across the road out of site in a pub/restaurant car park.
If i’d been playing with the radio, checking my phone, adjusting my mirror, etc. she’d likely have been killed. A totally stupid move and I said it to her at the time, too (I was getting the points anyway, so..).
So experiences like that make me assume the Garda did indeed step out in front of the bike. Whether the bike had insurance or not is another thing, and the bike was ‘speeding’, but the speed isn’t said anywhere. He could have been doing 55 in a 50 and he’d be ‘speeding’. Listing a bike’s top speed is irrelevant, really.
Again, I’m no fan of the biker here. I find that motorbikes attract a lot of morons and people who think they are always the victim in every encounter, but I do think the reporting on this has been unjustly slanted against him.
All the guard’s fault I was told, of course that’s only because the driver wasn’t brown enough to be worth blaming.
I’d like to know how it took well over a month to establish and communicate a fact as basic as this.
Bikers worst drivers
A disgrace the biker was illegally on the road kills a Garda and some people at the time were victim blaming
Considering both men have since died died, this headline will only make things worse for both families.
Should be posthumously convicted in my opinion
Self-correcting problem at least.
He had no tax or insurance and is also now dead after killing another. Safe to say he paid the ultimate price for having neither and doing the worst. Case closed!
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>*The rider of the high-powered motorcycle that struck and killed Garda Kevin Flatley while he was on duty at a speed checkpoint in Dublin last month had no tax or insurance.*
>*Gardai believe that Izzet Can Berber, the rider of the 1,000cc Yamaha R1, lost control of the vehicle on the R132 at Lissenhall, near Swords, on May 11.*
>*Flatley, 49, had been trying to wave down the motorcyclist. He died at the scene. Berber, a Turkish national who had settled in Ireland, sustained critical injuries and died ten days later in Beaumont Hospital.*
>A marked garda vehicle had been parked to alert motorists to the presence of the checkpoint, which should have prompted Berber to slow down. After the tragedy, disinformation circulated on WhatsApp which purported to provide a witness’s account of the incident. Gardai said the claims made in those messages were entirely false.
thats a very emotive headline, and deliberately so.
“Rider involved in fatal accident that cost both Garda and rider their lives” probably doesnt get as many clicks
Shocking
Change my mind: checking insurance, tax, and speed shouldn’t involve two persons standing at the side of the road beside dangerous traffic.
One of the rules in case of a car issue on the motorway is to park beside the barriers and stand **behind** them waiting for emergency services to arrive. All bulding sites have strict safety rules for builders. Why does the Garda think that putting people beside traffic is a good idea instead of using all the technology we have today?
Christ almighty. Speeding massively above speed limit. Refused to stop. Killed a garda. No tax. No insurance. I can’t say what I really think about this man or I’ll be banned.
Some amount of tinfoil hat wearers in this sub
All the great folk over at r/motoireland were adamant that this was the guards fault for stepping out in front of the bike suddenly. The day after this degenerate had killed him. Not surprising, cretins
Did he step in front of the bike to try stop it?
I assume all the r/motoireland lads who painted the killer as the real victim in this will be along any second now to hold their hands up and say they got it wrong.
Damn. If only he had tax and insurance. It might have saved him
Can I just say there’s 2 families devastated and unless anyone posting witnessed directly we are all fuckin speculating
Ok headlines get clicks sell copies blah blah been handled badly from start
I find it odd these details were released.
Who would have sourced these and for what possible reason?
These something not right at play here.
Unless the man been driving on footpaths or proving himself to be an intentional danger to the public, standing in front of a moving vehicle is completely unnecessary and absolutely stupid, RIP sir
Tax or insurance isn’t really a big deal compared to speeding, losing control of the bike and killing someone else
Although I’m not siding with the motorbike, it’s worth pointing out that nothing here says that the Garda didn’t step out in front of the bike. Which is, in my mind, still what happened.
I do ride a bike, although I’ve only ever encountered one checkpoint on it (and there was a car ahead of me, so it was obvious and natural to slow down), however, a Garda did stop me for speeding once in Cavan.
The reason I still believe the Garda stepped in front of the bike, is because when I got stopped for speeding, that’s exactly what the Garda did to me. The high-vis stab vests had already been deployed at this point, but this Garda was literally standing in a hedge at the side of the road, wearing the old navy stab vest, and her unmarked car was parked across the road out of site in a pub/restaurant car park.
If i’d been playing with the radio, checking my phone, adjusting my mirror, etc. she’d likely have been killed. A totally stupid move and I said it to her at the time, too (I was getting the points anyway, so..).
So experiences like that make me assume the Garda did indeed step out in front of the bike. Whether the bike had insurance or not is another thing, and the bike was ‘speeding’, but the speed isn’t said anywhere. He could have been doing 55 in a 50 and he’d be ‘speeding’. Listing a bike’s top speed is irrelevant, really.
Again, I’m no fan of the biker here. I find that motorbikes attract a lot of morons and people who think they are always the victim in every encounter, but I do think the reporting on this has been unjustly slanted against him.
All the guard’s fault I was told, of course that’s only because the driver wasn’t brown enough to be worth blaming.
I’d like to know how it took well over a month to establish and communicate a fact as basic as this.
Bikers worst drivers
A disgrace the biker was illegally on the road kills a Garda and some people at the time were victim blaming
Considering both men have since died died, this headline will only make things worse for both families.
Should be posthumously convicted in my opinion
Self-correcting problem at least.
He had no tax or insurance and is also now dead after killing another. Safe to say he paid the ultimate price for having neither and doing the worst. Case closed!
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