The bars show where the timezone regions would be if countries didn’t aim to sync up with their neighbors.
If the aim were to use “natural” timezones, France, Spain, Belgium, and the Netherlands would both be on the same timezone as the UK is today. Ireland, Portugal, and Iceland would probably be another timezone over.
What an absurd! Has OP ever been in Europe?
Vienna and Bratislava are less than an hour apart yet they should have different time zones?
As long as we can stop changing the clocks twice a year, I really don’t mind what time zone we end up with.
360 degrees / 24 hours = 15 degrees per time zone. Geographically GMT is from 7.5 W to 7.5 E which means Spain, Belgium, Holland and France are mostly GMT time zone. GMT + 1 is from 7.5 E to 22.5 E which means Finland is GMT + 1, Ex-Yu is GMT + 1, Greece is GMT + 1 (mostly), Poland is GMT + 1, Baltic states are mostly GMT + 1, Slovakia and Hungary are GMT + 1.
GMT + 2 are Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, Ukraine, Belarus.
How about skipping time zones in the first place and just using GMT everywhere?
Of course that would mean to stand up in the morning at 4 o’clock GMT in Moscow, at 7 o’clock in Lisbon and at 13 o’clock/1pm in NYC, but isn’t that just numbers in the end?
This is absurd. Poland and Germany are right inside GMT+1 timezone ( middle point is at Germany-Poland border and both countries fit nearly whole in that timezone),yet on this map Germany is in GMT+1 and Poland is GMT+2? It makes no sense.
Put France in GMT and Germany and Poland in GMT+1.
You are ALL time change-phobic and time-change-shaming… you should let the time decide it-/him-/herself what he/she/it (das S muss mit) wants…
/s
Whenever I see maps like this one I just hope we get to keep DST! 🙂
I don’t want October to join the dark months. Currently it’s really just November and December that’s really dark. Ditching DST would change that.
this does not make any sense
You can kill Czechoslovakia on this map but you can never kill it in my heart
I think it should be more like [this](https://i.imgur.com/Bdl3PF6.png) tbh, although Corsica and Kaliningrad would be UTC+1.
However, if you want to be more precise, Portugal (plus Galicia), Ireland and Iceland should all be [under the same timezone](https://i.imgur.com/DWJI9Cq.png) (UTC-1 – and the Azores UTC-2).
France should be blue
Öresund is the largest economic zone in the Nordics with over 4 million people. Splitting it in two time zones make absolutely zero sense. Also, land based transport/traffic from central Europe to Norway would have to change timeszone twice…
UTC+2 – Finland, Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey and Cyprus
UTC+3 – Russia
This will never happen.
Spain, since all that remember the original time are dead, would freak out getting their natural summer time. If we go through with it, it makes sense to divide EU in as little timezones, and 2 are enough. And that would be +1 for POR,SPA,FRA and BENELUX and +2 for all the others.
Anyway. I think we should keep everything as is, keep changing the clock, it is just the best solution for 360 days with 5 days of hell, vs 180 days of good and 180 days of bad..
If I remember correctly, the southern countries voted to keep the summer time. I can’t think of a Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Greek, etc citizen who would accept winter time 365 days.
I’ve made some “corrections” (aka pulled this out of my ass cuz prefer less border gore)
This is never going to happen. Most EU countries want to have the same timezone as Germany for trade reasons. Honestly, I don’t see why not. China has only one timezone, and it’s larger than the EU.
r/europe: choosing a timezone for each country
Russia: has 11 timezones
It will not work for Poland. Germany is our biggest trading partner and Czechia is among the biggest. Many people from borderland regions travel there every day to work. But most importantly CET is based on meridian 15 which goes directly through Polish-German borderline so it fits us well. So we must be in the same time zone as Germans.
Europe GMT+1, UK can do whatever.
Make Poland green
Congratulations you made everyone angry
Only change I’d make is put put Sweden in gmt+1, as that is our actual wintertime rn, and it in general would make more sense
LOL, no!
Poles working across the boder in Germany and Hungarians, Slovaks working in Austria would disapprove.
On the other hand, if you only went by geography/astronomy, then also France should be GMT.
After many debates and after many arguments about health, habits and economy, I think that the best solution is putting all the EU in UTC+1 all year. A middle ground that works for everyone, from Portugal to Poland.
Portugal is right now UTC+0/+1 and Poland is UTC+1/+2. UTC +1 is the perfect middle ground.
Travelling in a straight route from Hungary to Bosnia must be odd
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Someone has no idea how timezones work.
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/static/31913c20666d022fa1315bd444553f8d/world_time.pdf
The bars show where the timezone regions would be if countries didn’t aim to sync up with their neighbors.
If the aim were to use “natural” timezones, France, Spain, Belgium, and the Netherlands would both be on the same timezone as the UK is today. Ireland, Portugal, and Iceland would probably be another timezone over.
What an absurd! Has OP ever been in Europe?
Vienna and Bratislava are less than an hour apart yet they should have different time zones?
As long as we can stop changing the clocks twice a year, I really don’t mind what time zone we end up with.
360 degrees / 24 hours = 15 degrees per time zone. Geographically GMT is from 7.5 W to 7.5 E which means Spain, Belgium, Holland and France are mostly GMT time zone. GMT + 1 is from 7.5 E to 22.5 E which means Finland is GMT + 1, Ex-Yu is GMT + 1, Greece is GMT + 1 (mostly), Poland is GMT + 1, Baltic states are mostly GMT + 1, Slovakia and Hungary are GMT + 1.
GMT + 2 are Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, Ukraine, Belarus.
How about skipping time zones in the first place and just using GMT everywhere?
Of course that would mean to stand up in the morning at 4 o’clock GMT in Moscow, at 7 o’clock in Lisbon and at 13 o’clock/1pm in NYC, but isn’t that just numbers in the end?
This is absurd. Poland and Germany are right inside GMT+1 timezone ( middle point is at Germany-Poland border and both countries fit nearly whole in that timezone),yet on this map Germany is in GMT+1 and Poland is GMT+2? It makes no sense.
Put France in GMT and Germany and Poland in GMT+1.
You are ALL time change-phobic and time-change-shaming… you should let the time decide it-/him-/herself what he/she/it (das S muss mit) wants…
/s
Whenever I see maps like this one I just hope we get to keep DST! 🙂
I don’t want October to join the dark months. Currently it’s really just November and December that’s really dark. Ditching DST would change that.
this does not make any sense
You can kill Czechoslovakia on this map but you can never kill it in my heart
I think it should be more like [this](https://i.imgur.com/Bdl3PF6.png) tbh, although Corsica and Kaliningrad would be UTC+1.
However, if you want to be more precise, Portugal (plus Galicia), Ireland and Iceland should all be [under the same timezone](https://i.imgur.com/DWJI9Cq.png) (UTC-1 – and the Azores UTC-2).
France should be blue
Öresund is the largest economic zone in the Nordics with over 4 million people. Splitting it in two time zones make absolutely zero sense. Also, land based transport/traffic from central Europe to Norway would have to change timeszone twice…
This map makes 0 sense
If time zones change, they should probably look something like [this ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Tzdiff-Europe-summer.png/220px-Tzdiff-Europe-summer.png)
UTC-1 – Iceland
UTC+0 – UK, Benelux, Iberian peninsula, France and Ireland
UTC+1 – Central Europe, Scandinavia, [Western Balkans](https://europeanjournalists.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Western-Balkans-1-595×400.jpg), Italy and Malta
UTC+2 – Finland, Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey and Cyprus
UTC+3 – Russia
This will never happen.
Spain, since all that remember the original time are dead, would freak out getting their natural summer time. If we go through with it, it makes sense to divide EU in as little timezones, and 2 are enough. And that would be +1 for POR,SPA,FRA and BENELUX and +2 for all the others.
Anyway. I think we should keep everything as is, keep changing the clock, it is just the best solution for 360 days with 5 days of hell, vs 180 days of good and 180 days of bad..
If I remember correctly, the southern countries voted to keep the summer time. I can’t think of a Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Greek, etc citizen who would accept winter time 365 days.
I’ve made some “corrections” (aka pulled this out of my ass cuz prefer less border gore)
https://imgur.com/WSk9brc
This is never going to happen. Most EU countries want to have the same timezone as Germany for trade reasons. Honestly, I don’t see why not. China has only one timezone, and it’s larger than the EU.
r/europe: choosing a timezone for each country
Russia: has 11 timezones
It will not work for Poland. Germany is our biggest trading partner and Czechia is among the biggest. Many people from borderland regions travel there every day to work. But most importantly CET is based on meridian 15 which goes directly through Polish-German borderline so it fits us well. So we must be in the same time zone as Germans.
Europe GMT+1, UK can do whatever.
Make Poland green
Congratulations you made everyone angry
Only change I’d make is put put Sweden in gmt+1, as that is our actual wintertime rn, and it in general would make more sense
LOL, no!
Poles working across the boder in Germany and Hungarians, Slovaks working in Austria would disapprove.
On the other hand, if you only went by geography/astronomy, then also France should be GMT.
After many debates and after many arguments about health, habits and economy, I think that the best solution is putting all the EU in UTC+1 all year. A middle ground that works for everyone, from Portugal to Poland.
Portugal is right now UTC+0/+1 and Poland is UTC+1/+2. UTC +1 is the perfect middle ground.
Travelling in a straight route from Hungary to Bosnia must be odd