1) People have asked how and why the Venezuelan came to Poland. Here's a statement from the prosecutor from today:

The suspect came to visit his family, and entry to Poland did not require a visa. It has not yet been established whether the suspect applied for permission to stay in Poland

https://www.se.pl/torun/wenezuelczyk-brutalnie-zaatakowal-klaudie-w-parku-czy-yomeykert-przebywal-w-polsce-legalnie-aa-XKog-X8tm-nZQ9.html

2) Claims the victim has died: I have seen multiple big accounts on different social media sites claim the victim has died, already several days ago. And many people subsequently sharing that. Two people made such comments under my recent post. When asked for a source, they never replied.

Fact is: There is no public information about the victim's health status beyond what has been reported initially, that she's in a critical condition and fighting for her life. There is no legitimate source claiming she has died. The hospital released a statement today that they won't comment due to privacy laws, which is obvious.

Therefore, the Hospital does not provide any information about the health of patients to the media, the public or third parties or unauthorized persons – unless there is an unambiguous, written consent of the patient or his legal representative.

On a personal note: I wish those who knowingly spread such lies only the worst. Including those who were made aware that it's almost certainly lies but continue to share them. What an absolute piece of shit you have to be, especially under the post by the victims boyfriend.

3) Claims the victim was raped: There was mention of a possible rape in the press soon after the attack. None of that is confirmed. All I can find is that she was found either partially (in some articles) or fully (according to the man who chased away the attacker) undressed and that the prosecutors are looking into a possible sexual motive. Whether a rape was planned but prevented, executed, or maybe clothing was ripped of during a fight – that is all speculation as of today. That's not to say attempted rape is any less wrong than completed rape, or that rape is unlikely. It's about not making factual claims that are made up.

4) Claims the victim was stabbed in her eyes so she couldn't later identify the attacker: I keep reading it, I am unable to find any source. The press mentions chest, head and neck injuries. Not more, not less. Maybe that turns out to be true, but for now it should be treated as made up for engagement.

Note: I base all of this on publicly available information as of 18:30 CET, Monday 16th in the half dozen news sites I went through. There's of course a possibility that some insider knows more than the press, has shared those claims with others and they are in fact all true. I just don't think that's very likely and that such rumors should be spread.

by opolsce

12 comments

  2. I learned about the incident from this post. Seems like guy committed or attempted to commit horrendous murder. How anything you wrote make any difference really? What are you trying to achieve?

  3. Poland need to keep their borders shut.

    Our safety is more important than other people rights to travel here

  4. Was knife used or a screwdriver? I’ve seen reports of both. Are there any police-made photos available of the weapon used?

    This dude needed a translator when questioned by police – do we know whether he knew any English or Polish? I can’t see why anyone would want to enter Poland knowingly without knowing any language commonly understood here, you’re asking for a tough time doing that.

  5. I hope he will spend a few years in a prison and I really hope time in prison will be a nightmare for him. I really wish that other prisoners will show him what hell looks like.

  6. I think the lesson to learn from your post is not to believe random unsourced stuff we read on the internet and especially not to repeat it. Always look for a legitimate source of information.

    In fact we should apply this to everything.

  7. Well, well, well, if it isn’t the consequences of our own policies

  9. How is your post different to the reports by media?

    Are you making some statements?

    Do you know something new?

    Do you want to share opinion?

    Are you karma farming?

    Edit: be careful.

    Op is spreading misinformation to intice violence and blocks people soon after comments.

    He is making a lot of edits too to his comments. Op is a troll farming for karma.

  10. Sorry, but should we do up a list of Polish abroad who have raped people? Or even just remember all the rapes perpetrated against Polish women in Poland by Polish men?

  11. It’s crazy how social media is full of posts claiming this was a migrant who committed the attack, when it turned out to literally be a tourist who entered under the standard visa-free regime. And this is literally all the right-wing media is talking about. They seem more interested in outrage bait than actually reporting the facts.

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