Fast forward a mere 96 hours, and Trump was holed up with his national security team in the White House situation room [mulling a major escalation](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/trump-is-itching-to-attack-iran-and-take-the-glory-3755784?ico=in-line_link) in the conflict with Iran, hours after departing the G7 summit early where he had — only grudgingly — signed a declaration calling for de-escalation in the conflict.
Trump always likes to keep his adversaries guessing about his true intentions. But after Prime Minister [Sir Keir Starmer](https://inews.co.uk/topic/keir-starmer?srsltid=AfmBOoqAXgUYTZR2ivfTepenUorCRv-5JDCiMNycw8OX-iE2MoUsbSBy&ico=in-line_link) told reporters at the summit in Canada that he had dined alongside Trump on Tuesday night and was in “no doubt” about his commitment to de-escalation, Washington’s allies must now also be dubious about the quixotic American leader’s next move.
Israel wants him to fire up his B-2 bombers and order US Air Force pilots to drop [30,000-pound bunker-busting bombs](https://inews.co.uk/news/trump-iran-big-things-promise-options-3753710?ico=in-line_link) — the country’s most powerful non-nuclear weapons — in order to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities once and for all. Trump is now suddenly portraying himself entirely at the centre of the conflict, demanding Iran’s “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER” on social media, warning Tehran’s 10 million residents to evacuate the city, and insisting that he knows the location of Iran’s Supreme Leader but has decided not to assassinate him yet.
As the President extemporises, it is impossible to identify any clear White House strategy in the conflict. On the one hand, Trump projects himself as itching to reduce [Iran’s nuclear facilities](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/how-worried-irans-nuclear-threat-3630002?srsltid=AfmBOoris7tLYlywQrEVNQVUKF2I2eyLDWwS-uhsEbRUShT1LmlWIYWF&ico=in-line_link) to dust. On the other hand, he blames the Iranian authorities for failing to strike an agreement with Washington within an arbitrary, 60-day deadline laid down by the White House, cajoling them to do so now. Israel attacked on day 61, even as the American and Iranian negotiating teams were planning to meet 48 hours later.
If it wasnt him, it would be someone else…kinda like a whole military industrial complex is goin on and a long history of avoiding recessions by being in forever wars…anyways its fun to talk cuz it makes zero difference to the people in charge what we say or discuss.
so what’s the alternative here? the US & Israel should stop and go back to hoping that what hasn’t worked for the past 15 years will suddenly work, and that it’s a good idea to let a theocratic dictatorship who has been arming terrorists and stirring up trouble in the mideast for decades get the bomb?
You think Truman would’ve stopped at the 38th parallel had he known that 70 years later, North Korea would be threatening the continental US with ICBMs?
Sending a B2 to blow up Fordo over the course of a day = a forever war
With a massive tax cut, so this will completely bankrupt the US.
Use the GBU-57, don’t say anything. Pretend you are still staying out of it. Then dare Iran to escalate.
How’s the MAGA people doin’
Dropping bombs on a country without ever setting foot on to it’s soil isn’t a “forever war”. It’s just an attack.
Edit: verbiage corrected for Professor Doolittle
Please keep us out of wars! We shouldn’t be involved with everything in the world.
So if the iranian state collapses, you (possibly) have:
1. The Balochs who will secede
2. The Kurds who will secede
3. ISIS who will infect the country
4. A possible invasion by the taliban for border regions
5. Azerbaijan potentially backing azeri turks in Iran and possibly intervening
6. Turkey either getting involved to crush the kurds or back the azeris
7. The general population is split between secularists and theocrats fighting eachother
8. Another refugee crisis into Europe.
Yeah, I’m going to say I think intervening is a bad idea.
It will be done in 3 days, friend Putin told him
I’m 100% for making sure Iran doesn’t get nukes. And no, I don’t believe them when they say they’re not trying to develop them. Israel might be exaggerating the timeframe, they’ve been saying Iran is “weeks away” for like 35 years, but that doesn’t mean the threat isn’t real.
I don’t like the Iranian regime. Let’s be honest: they’re behind a lot of the instability in the Middle East. They bankroll militias, prop up Assad, and now they’re supplying Russia with Shahed drones to bomb Ukrainian civilians. They’re not some passive victim, they’re an active problem.
If there were a way to topple that regime without dragging the U.S. into another endless war, I’d be open to it. But let’s not pretend we haven’t been lied into wars before. I’m not interested in another disaster built on half-truths and tough-guy posturing with no plan for what comes next.
I’m on the fence about whether the US is taking the right approach on this but the forever war tag is bad, lazy analysis at this stage
America’s ‘forever wars’ were Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, and they were forever wars because they involved protracted, large scale and unsuccessful ground commitments that were expensive in blood and treasure
All the options being discussed at the moment do not involve ground troops or occupation
Moreover, Iran started the hostage crisis in 1979 and American soldiers died on Iranian soil trying to solve it. No one said Carter was starting a forever war then, or accused Reagan of the same when he sank the Iranian navy in the 80s.
Arguably the US has been in a forever war with Iran since 79, started by Iran. Was the Cold War a forever war’? What’s our criteria here?
Unlike operations desert storm and desert shield 8 don’t hear any talk of planning for building coalitions and ground invasions…. Hoping this eliminates the threat
No he isn’t, we’re in the final hours of the Iranian terror regime. The world will be a lot safer by the weekend.
Peace through strength.
Everything Trump does either fizzles out immediately or blows up in everyone’s face in spectacular fashion. I’m hoping an attack on Iran will be the former.
Some of you people have a seriously whacky level of overconfidence, legit “Russia will collapse in 2 weeks” vibes again. Random footage of stuff blowing up in Iran and the IDF’s claims of how they’ve destroyed 120% of this or that does not, in fact, constitute proof that Iran cannot retaliate in any way at all and that soon you’ll have its citizens rising up to install Reza Pahlavi as Shah.
Nothing lasting will happen in Iran will happen without a protracted, bloody, expensive boots on the ground invasion. Trump doesn’t believe in this kind of intervention only because it’s hard work and he can’t profit from it or put bis name on it.
In can see see some attacks and some ultimately fruitless ‘deal making’ but no long lasting conflicts or changes.
Thank red voters for the chaos wrought by the felon-in-chief. He makes empty promises about keeping the US out of war as he sics the military on his constituents.
Remember when letting religious regimes have Nuclear weapons was a bad thing. People act like since Iraq was a bunch of smoke that Iran isn’t the real deal contrary to all the evidence. Like North Korea did it, wouldn’t it be nice if North Korea didn’t have Nuclear weapons and we didn’t have to accept a psychotic dictator who threatens everyone and sells the organs of his people?
Iran develops nuclear weapons, all the gulf states will want nuclear weapons, we do not want a mass-proliferation event for the sake of continuation of life on our planet. We need to be cautious, learn from our mistakes in Iraq, use targeted strikes and diplomacy. But the end of the day we can’t let the experience of Iraq make us passive towards this very real threat from the Mullahs.
He wants some tough-guy points on the heals of Israeli risk.
The most powerful nation in the history of humanity has hitched its fate to a tiny ethnostate in the Middle East and it’s a bipartisan effort to do so. Whatever the consequences are for America (probably minimal if we’re being honest) it’s well deserved.
Eh, pretty easy in and out for them, Israel has already taken care of potential risks.
How many more forever wars does America think it has left in it?
It’s quite unlikely we see US boots on the ground. However this would be really the only way to introduce regime change in Iran.
Air Campaigns can inflict a ton of damage but they simply cannot overthrow a regime given the IRGC has a stranglehold over the government. There is very little organized opposition in Iran.
Yes, a majority of Iranians are not fans of the current regime. But that doesn’t mean they will rise up.
Regime change can only occur organically or via boots on the ground.
This man child so badly wants to have a war : whether it’s an economic war against American allies, , sending troops in for war against the people of California and other blue States, Spent over a billion dollars to go to war with the Houthis, now he may go in with Israel against Iran, what makes this worse is that he has no idea what he’s doing and his mental state is obviously in decline this is not good for the United States of America
War is peace
People really want Iran to be 2nd North Korea which threatend few times on US with nukes?
If Iran will have its nuke and destroy Israel using its proxies, BMs and nuke, what would it be their next target?
Israel stroke 2 countries nuke sites Syria and Iraq, luckily for all people around, specially for US and Arab coallition who fought Iraq and could face a nuke threat
+ NO FOREVER WAR BETWEEN SYRIA / IRAQ TO ISRAEL
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What a rollercoaster US President Donald Trump has taken us on in less than a week since Israel first stunned the world by launching its [military strikes on Iran](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/explosions-heard-in-tehran-as-israel-announces-strike-on-iran-3746891?ico=in-line_link).
Last Sunday, after the news broke, [Trump](https://inews.co.uk/topic/donald-trump?srsltid=AfmBOooX9slGN337SAjX1ySdm08p60Fzb9fCH8v5s_HrrmNMUJONJ2Gv&ico=in-line_link) raced to social media to insist that his administration had “nothing to do” with Israel’s military action and still hoped that via ongoing talks with Iran that “we can easily get a deal done…and end this bloody conflict”.
Fast forward a mere 96 hours, and Trump was holed up with his national security team in the White House situation room [mulling a major escalation](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/trump-is-itching-to-attack-iran-and-take-the-glory-3755784?ico=in-line_link) in the conflict with Iran, hours after departing the G7 summit early where he had — only grudgingly — signed a declaration calling for de-escalation in the conflict.
Trump always likes to keep his adversaries guessing about his true intentions. But after Prime Minister [Sir Keir Starmer](https://inews.co.uk/topic/keir-starmer?srsltid=AfmBOoqAXgUYTZR2ivfTepenUorCRv-5JDCiMNycw8OX-iE2MoUsbSBy&ico=in-line_link) told reporters at the summit in Canada that he had dined alongside Trump on Tuesday night and was in “no doubt” about his commitment to de-escalation, Washington’s allies must now also be dubious about the quixotic American leader’s next move.
Israel wants him to fire up his B-2 bombers and order US Air Force pilots to drop [30,000-pound bunker-busting bombs](https://inews.co.uk/news/trump-iran-big-things-promise-options-3753710?ico=in-line_link) — the country’s most powerful non-nuclear weapons — in order to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities once and for all. Trump is now suddenly portraying himself entirely at the centre of the conflict, demanding Iran’s “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER” on social media, warning Tehran’s 10 million residents to evacuate the city, and insisting that he knows the location of Iran’s Supreme Leader but has decided not to assassinate him yet.
As the President extemporises, it is impossible to identify any clear White House strategy in the conflict. On the one hand, Trump projects himself as itching to reduce [Iran’s nuclear facilities](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/how-worried-irans-nuclear-threat-3630002?srsltid=AfmBOoris7tLYlywQrEVNQVUKF2I2eyLDWwS-uhsEbRUShT1LmlWIYWF&ico=in-line_link) to dust. On the other hand, he blames the Iranian authorities for failing to strike an agreement with Washington within an arbitrary, 60-day deadline laid down by the White House, cajoling them to do so now. Israel attacked on day 61, even as the American and Iranian negotiating teams were planning to meet 48 hours later.
If it wasnt him, it would be someone else…kinda like a whole military industrial complex is goin on and a long history of avoiding recessions by being in forever wars…anyways its fun to talk cuz it makes zero difference to the people in charge what we say or discuss.
so what’s the alternative here? the US & Israel should stop and go back to hoping that what hasn’t worked for the past 15 years will suddenly work, and that it’s a good idea to let a theocratic dictatorship who has been arming terrorists and stirring up trouble in the mideast for decades get the bomb?
You think Truman would’ve stopped at the 38th parallel had he known that 70 years later, North Korea would be threatening the continental US with ICBMs?
Sending a B2 to blow up Fordo over the course of a day = a forever war
With a massive tax cut, so this will completely bankrupt the US.
Use the GBU-57, don’t say anything. Pretend you are still staying out of it. Then dare Iran to escalate.
How’s the MAGA people doin’
Dropping bombs on a country without ever setting foot on to it’s soil isn’t a “forever war”. It’s just an attack.
Edit: verbiage corrected for Professor Doolittle
Please keep us out of wars! We shouldn’t be involved with everything in the world.
So if the iranian state collapses, you (possibly) have:
1. The Balochs who will secede
2. The Kurds who will secede
3. ISIS who will infect the country
4. A possible invasion by the taliban for border regions
5. Azerbaijan potentially backing azeri turks in Iran and possibly intervening
6. Turkey either getting involved to crush the kurds or back the azeris
7. The general population is split between secularists and theocrats fighting eachother
8. Another refugee crisis into Europe.
Yeah, I’m going to say I think intervening is a bad idea.
It will be done in 3 days, friend Putin told him
I’m 100% for making sure Iran doesn’t get nukes. And no, I don’t believe them when they say they’re not trying to develop them. Israel might be exaggerating the timeframe, they’ve been saying Iran is “weeks away” for like 35 years, but that doesn’t mean the threat isn’t real.
I don’t like the Iranian regime. Let’s be honest: they’re behind a lot of the instability in the Middle East. They bankroll militias, prop up Assad, and now they’re supplying Russia with Shahed drones to bomb Ukrainian civilians. They’re not some passive victim, they’re an active problem.
If there were a way to topple that regime without dragging the U.S. into another endless war, I’d be open to it. But let’s not pretend we haven’t been lied into wars before. I’m not interested in another disaster built on half-truths and tough-guy posturing with no plan for what comes next.
I’m on the fence about whether the US is taking the right approach on this but the forever war tag is bad, lazy analysis at this stage
America’s ‘forever wars’ were Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, and they were forever wars because they involved protracted, large scale and unsuccessful ground commitments that were expensive in blood and treasure
All the options being discussed at the moment do not involve ground troops or occupation
Moreover, Iran started the hostage crisis in 1979 and American soldiers died on Iranian soil trying to solve it. No one said Carter was starting a forever war then, or accused Reagan of the same when he sank the Iranian navy in the 80s.
Arguably the US has been in a forever war with Iran since 79, started by Iran. Was the Cold War a forever war’? What’s our criteria here?
Unlike operations desert storm and desert shield 8 don’t hear any talk of planning for building coalitions and ground invasions…. Hoping this eliminates the threat
No he isn’t, we’re in the final hours of the Iranian terror regime. The world will be a lot safer by the weekend.
Peace through strength.
Everything Trump does either fizzles out immediately or blows up in everyone’s face in spectacular fashion. I’m hoping an attack on Iran will be the former.
Some of you people have a seriously whacky level of overconfidence, legit “Russia will collapse in 2 weeks” vibes again. Random footage of stuff blowing up in Iran and the IDF’s claims of how they’ve destroyed 120% of this or that does not, in fact, constitute proof that Iran cannot retaliate in any way at all and that soon you’ll have its citizens rising up to install Reza Pahlavi as Shah.
Nothing lasting will happen in Iran will happen without a protracted, bloody, expensive boots on the ground invasion. Trump doesn’t believe in this kind of intervention only because it’s hard work and he can’t profit from it or put bis name on it.
In can see see some attacks and some ultimately fruitless ‘deal making’ but no long lasting conflicts or changes.
Thank red voters for the chaos wrought by the felon-in-chief. He makes empty promises about keeping the US out of war as he sics the military on his constituents.
Remember when letting religious regimes have Nuclear weapons was a bad thing. People act like since Iraq was a bunch of smoke that Iran isn’t the real deal contrary to all the evidence. Like North Korea did it, wouldn’t it be nice if North Korea didn’t have Nuclear weapons and we didn’t have to accept a psychotic dictator who threatens everyone and sells the organs of his people?
Iran develops nuclear weapons, all the gulf states will want nuclear weapons, we do not want a mass-proliferation event for the sake of continuation of life on our planet. We need to be cautious, learn from our mistakes in Iraq, use targeted strikes and diplomacy. But the end of the day we can’t let the experience of Iraq make us passive towards this very real threat from the Mullahs.
He wants some tough-guy points on the heals of Israeli risk.
The most powerful nation in the history of humanity has hitched its fate to a tiny ethnostate in the Middle East and it’s a bipartisan effort to do so. Whatever the consequences are for America (probably minimal if we’re being honest) it’s well deserved.
Eh, pretty easy in and out for them, Israel has already taken care of potential risks.
How many more forever wars does America think it has left in it?
It’s quite unlikely we see US boots on the ground. However this would be really the only way to introduce regime change in Iran.
Air Campaigns can inflict a ton of damage but they simply cannot overthrow a regime given the IRGC has a stranglehold over the government. There is very little organized opposition in Iran.
Yes, a majority of Iranians are not fans of the current regime. But that doesn’t mean they will rise up.
Regime change can only occur organically or via boots on the ground.
This man child so badly wants to have a war : whether it’s an economic war against American allies, , sending troops in for war against the people of California and other blue States, Spent over a billion dollars to go to war with the Houthis, now he may go in with Israel against Iran, what makes this worse is that he has no idea what he’s doing and his mental state is obviously in decline this is not good for the United States of America
War is peace
People really want Iran to be 2nd North Korea which threatend few times on US with nukes?
If Iran will have its nuke and destroy Israel using its proxies, BMs and nuke, what would it be their next target?
Israel stroke 2 countries nuke sites Syria and Iraq, luckily for all people around, specially for US and Arab coallition who fought Iraq and could face a nuke threat
+ NO FOREVER WAR BETWEEN SYRIA / IRAQ TO ISRAEL
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