If people wanted a slow and steady wind down of fossil fuel use, they could have got serious in 1995 and done that.
They didn’t, and there’s still way too much fucking around now, so there will need to be very steep cuts, and they need to happen immediately.
So, sorry, but a plan of appearing on panel shows or trying to bribe Tory MPs to do the right thing has past.
If we continue to do nothing we’ll almost certainly lose the battle so have at it.
If every movement didnt have some social disobedience it would be over before it began.
“**The battle**” as the writer so provocatively puts it, is already lost, because it’s lose-lose. Protest quietly and nothing gets done or noticed. Protest loudly and people get miffed or worse.
To look at the byline, “**The more time they spend disrupting normal life, the weaker their affinity with the public becomes,**” plainly ignores the obvious fact that our normal life is precisely what’s gotten us into this mess, and normal life is what needs disrupting (either self-adopted, or induced).
Over the last 25 years I honestly thought people would come to see what was in their own best interest and act accordingly. Do a bit here, a bit there, and ease into it. No cake today but bread tomorrow.
I was wrong, in general, people have proved beyond any doubt that they are greedy, selfish morons that will do anything to keep stuffing their faces and fighting over the crumbs, today, tomorrow and every day after while the media, politicians and corporate masters cheer them on. And the more you consume the louder they cheer! The IPCC report says this is our last chance and we’ll shrug and carry on and tell ourselves we’ll do it later at our next last chance. The cake is a lie.
Imagine if this happened with COVID.
“Dear people taking COVID seriously, stop alienating the public or you might lose the battle”.
I agree that we need to be doing more to work with people to show them the benefits of low-carbon lifestyles and that it’s **not** a reduction in quality, and engaging Governments to show how low-carbon solutions solve their problems too, but you also need activists to start highlighting these things too. We need to throw everything at it – just like we did in March 2020
Yeah, doing things that are easier to ignore is a much better way to get your message across.
A bit rich coming from the industry that is solely responsible for them alienating the public. Imagine if the mainstream media painted these people as doing good for the benefit of society and not just causing problems, public response would be much different and almost certainly for the better.
I can’t say anything really…..I’ve got the fire going all day every day at the minute. Can’t afford central heating oil, can’t afford to put electric heaters on….the more trees blow down the better as wood cheaper. The joys of rural living and doing low paid jobs. Many of us don’t have the luxury of middle class values. However much it hurts the planet, and I know it does keeping my current kids warm and fed is my priority. The future is for those who can see past today. Good luck to you all…..
No keep doing it. Start causing real shit. It’s the only way to save the planet and lord knows I’m too blackpilled to attempt anything. I’m counting on the few people left who believe there’s any hope to start setting cars on fire, letting air out of tires, and doing anything and everything they can to force change
Pissing off the public is a bonus
There has not been a single example in British history of peaceful non disruptive protest making the slightest bit of difference. Nothing changes unless you piss people off or smash things up. Preferably both.
I haven’t seen a massive public backlash of the sort that there was when roads were being blocked in London. Is there any polling on it, or any other real data besides opinion pieces like this?
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If people wanted a slow and steady wind down of fossil fuel use, they could have got serious in 1995 and done that.
They didn’t, and there’s still way too much fucking around now, so there will need to be very steep cuts, and they need to happen immediately.
So, sorry, but a plan of appearing on panel shows or trying to bribe Tory MPs to do the right thing has past.
If we continue to do nothing we’ll almost certainly lose the battle so have at it.
If every movement didnt have some social disobedience it would be over before it began.
“**The battle**” as the writer so provocatively puts it, is already lost, because it’s lose-lose. Protest quietly and nothing gets done or noticed. Protest loudly and people get miffed or worse.
To look at the byline, “**The more time they spend disrupting normal life, the weaker their affinity with the public becomes,**” plainly ignores the obvious fact that our normal life is precisely what’s gotten us into this mess, and normal life is what needs disrupting (either self-adopted, or induced).
Over the last 25 years I honestly thought people would come to see what was in their own best interest and act accordingly. Do a bit here, a bit there, and ease into it. No cake today but bread tomorrow.
I was wrong, in general, people have proved beyond any doubt that they are greedy, selfish morons that will do anything to keep stuffing their faces and fighting over the crumbs, today, tomorrow and every day after while the media, politicians and corporate masters cheer them on. And the more you consume the louder they cheer! The IPCC report says this is our last chance and we’ll shrug and carry on and tell ourselves we’ll do it later at our next last chance. The cake is a lie.
Imagine if this happened with COVID.
“Dear people taking COVID seriously, stop alienating the public or you might lose the battle”.
I agree that we need to be doing more to work with people to show them the benefits of low-carbon lifestyles and that it’s **not** a reduction in quality, and engaging Governments to show how low-carbon solutions solve their problems too, but you also need activists to start highlighting these things too. We need to throw everything at it – just like we did in March 2020
Yeah, doing things that are easier to ignore is a much better way to get your message across.
A bit rich coming from the industry that is solely responsible for them alienating the public. Imagine if the mainstream media painted these people as doing good for the benefit of society and not just causing problems, public response would be much different and almost certainly for the better.
I can’t say anything really…..I’ve got the fire going all day every day at the minute. Can’t afford central heating oil, can’t afford to put electric heaters on….the more trees blow down the better as wood cheaper. The joys of rural living and doing low paid jobs. Many of us don’t have the luxury of middle class values. However much it hurts the planet, and I know it does keeping my current kids warm and fed is my priority. The future is for those who can see past today. Good luck to you all…..
No keep doing it. Start causing real shit. It’s the only way to save the planet and lord knows I’m too blackpilled to attempt anything. I’m counting on the few people left who believe there’s any hope to start setting cars on fire, letting air out of tires, and doing anything and everything they can to force change
Pissing off the public is a bonus
There has not been a single example in British history of peaceful non disruptive protest making the slightest bit of difference. Nothing changes unless you piss people off or smash things up. Preferably both.
I haven’t seen a massive public backlash of the sort that there was when roads were being blocked in London. Is there any polling on it, or any other real data besides opinion pieces like this?